Be Mean to Me!!
Looks pretty good to me! I don't know a ton about coding for web pages, but I think I have decent taste in web design and layout and yours is not too bad. It's not exceptional, but it looks good for a pretty basic set up.
I was just looking at the page of Mark Van Akkeren yesterday, the new trifueler who posted the Kona AG report. http://www.markavan.com/main.htm
I like your color scheme better but he has better interactive features (more interesting buttons and links, animated picture, slightly animated name. Obviously don't steal his set up, but you might be able to use it as inspiration for a few improvements of your own.
Anyway, yours is straight forward and easy to follow. It has all the important info I can think of, and good enough web design to keep ones interest.
May I suggest you get rid of the quote that says "I'm just playing at triathlon for now?" (news section)
It doesn't really scream "sponsor me."
I like the upper banner and the links. Below that, it gets a bit chaotic. I have no suggestions to make it better though. I'm just a critical ass. ;)
-Dave
May I suggest you get rid of the quote that says "I'm just playing at triathlon for now?" (news section)It doesn't really scream "sponsor me."
Yeah, I never actually said that, seeing as how I'm not complete tool and the quote makes me sound otherwise......the girl who wrote that has a tendency to make things up in all of her articles....I'll fix that, though....thanks.:)
Keep 'em comin'!
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-Matt
Not fast enough.
You might want to try using a using a web site builder. I used web dwarf, and it was super easy and is a free download.
http://www.virtualmechanics.com/products/dwarf/info.html
If you check out my site
canadiantriathletes.com you can see what it is capable of in the hands of a rank beginner!
I think it looks pretty good. Have you looked around at many of the pros? I think Desiree Ficker has one of the better ones for a basic information site. I alos think that some of the blog type sites can be free, cheap and effective - especially for your first until that lucrative 100MM gatorade sponsorship!! Some flash animation (changing photos etc) would be catchy.
I would remove the comment - beaten by Spencer Smith ... You finsihed 3rd. Great result regardless. Save the discussion of your results for your sponsoirship interviews and highlight that one in a conversation. Just a thought. Overall your results shouldspeak for themselves.
I'm not sure why bullets aren't showing up on my screen. I'll try to format around that.
There are three things that shoot out at me (and to preface that I do rather like the layout/design overall. You've got a nice color/scheme that works well):
1.
The biggest thing is that it covers the entire page, but you've a fair bit of whitespace within the page (take for example the completely blank area between your photo on the left and the upcoming races on the right on the homepage). While you've got the links up top, the space makes me stop, ask myself, and actually look for where those links are located.
Changing desktop resolutions, I can see that the white space is due to a larger screen resolution (I run 1280x1024). If I knock my resolution down to 1024x768 it's much less noticable. This, however, brings up a salient point regarding the site. If you have space that will expand/contract depending on your viewer's screen resolution it's by far preferable to have it at the edges rather than somewhere in the middle of your site. That is one of the driving reasons why centered sites with sidebars have become so common - the sidebars contract/expand as needed and your primary layout stays exactly how you like it formatted. It keeps the flow of your site neat (and consistent!)
To note (in case you're not familiar), the easiest way to implement the two sidebars is simply a centered, fixed-width table with a basic background setting that takes care of your sidebar coloring/imagery.
At the very least I would suggest some sort of minor sidebar (I'll get into more detail in #3)
2.
Alignment in your subtable/subframe (where your picture of you on your bike resides on the home page).
Your home page, bio, schedule/results, & media are all left-aligned. Your photos, sponsors/links, & contact me are all centered-aligned. Based on what I see, the following is what I would run based on a flow perspective:
- Home - center the image. If you're going to have any white space there, distribute it on both sides. Even if you change styles to something with sidebars a centered image will in general look "cleaner"
- Bio - it's text, keep left-aligned as standard
- Schedule/Results - it's text, keep left-aligned as standard
- Media (news) - it's text, keep left-aligned as standard
- Media (photos) - images, center-align as standard. If you end up using thumbnails use more than one per line, but make sure you don't have too many to crowd things off the page for lower resolution browsers (generally consider 800x600 as the absolute minimum nowadays, though most newer sites develop for closer to 1024x768 due to the common retail screen space nowdays)
- Sponsors/Links - center align as you're using graphics as your primary interface.
- Contact Me - center align. Though it's text, it's information you want to stand out...and most standards keep the contact info centered as it makes it stand out from the rest of the text, wherever the contact information is located.
3.
Force some sidebars, even if they're really small.
Most notable is when I'm looking on the news section and sponsor section in relation to your contact info section. In both the news and sponsor your right image goes to the very edge of the page. In your contact info you've got a bit of a sidebar (though caused by different picture dimensions). Having that sidebar gives a definite stop to the edge of the page, rather than letting your viewer wonder if they should be able to scroll to the side for some reason.
If you compare those further to your home page, you can see that the home page has very defined edges. It keeps you centered (horizontally) on the page.
Hope that helps :)
Jeremy
Edited to add:
I'll second Desiree's site as something to take examples from. My notable reasons why:
- - A clear delineation at the sides, top, and bottom
- - A nice top to bottom flow
- - Her sponsors are featured front page, as well as on her sponsor page (something it feels they would like, and would encourage them remind them that they'll be front and center as well)
If I changed anything on her site it would again be centering the pictures (they're just slightly off-center) and aligning the picture titles (ala Kona) to the left of the picture group
"Care more than others think is wise, risk more than others think is safe, dream more than others think is practical, expect more than others think is possible."
We don't need to be mean, just critical in a constructive way :) Pretty nice so far, but just looking at the layout:
The jumping header bar would drive me nuts. You go to the site, you see the nav bar and header and you click a link. Now the header changes, the nav bar jumps, and the whole feel changes.
Next up we have the images on the right side: I'd keep a consistent size so it also doesn't have that "jumpiness."
There's some funkiness with the background behind the header; the background colors and designs don't match up with the image and foreground. The same type of funkiness surrounds the images on the right.
The image you are using in the header looks like it needs some help, but that's polish for later. You may also want to incorporate your sponsor logos in there as well, maybe off to the right so they are visible and stand out but don't overshadow the image you're trying to portray with the picture of yourself.
The bio section is well structured, organized, and clear. The schedule/results section could use the same treatment. Keep the even names, dates, and finishes lined up and similarly organized. Perhaps using a table along the lines of:
Race | Date | Place*
* - note about placement
The Contact page needs the info to stand out a little more, perhaps a larger font and moving it further down the white space.
I think the other posts hit everything else I can think of.
It's looking pretty good so far. Riverbrady had some great suggestions, and I would second all of those.
Also, I noticed that you are using kind of a cheesy free web server. If you're going to go that route, you might consider WordPress. I think it's much tidier, and you will find that the ability to add custom side-bars will be nice. Also, there are hundreds of templates for WordPress pages, and you can make some great looking pages. My page is at http://scottnlucy.com right now it's a travel blog, but pretty much everything on there is customizable, so you would be able to scale/change it to suit your content needs.
Funny how all the guys know exactly what Desiree's webpage looks like... ;)
"Every journey has a secret destination of which the traveler is unaware." —Martin Buber
Funny how all the guys know exactly what Desiree's webpage looks like... ;)
And you know this! (goes to look at Desiree's site again...)
-Dave
Hey Matt,
I used to publish an amateur sports magazine in Alberta, so I'm used to some print publishing formatting - specifically pictures of people should not face "off" the page. So, I'm suggesting that you place the RHS menu of upcoming events on the left side so the rider in the picture is racing towards the events - this takes the eye in the right direction as it scans the page. Same with the header, put the rider on the RHS. Same with the bio page - the pic on the right has you riding off the page, reverse it so you face the text.
If the formatting tool from GOWide doesn't offer this option, try reversing the picture so that you appear to be riding from left to right. This can be done in Photoshop or most any photo editing software.
Secondly, if getting sponsors is the goal of this webpage, let's personalize it: who is this guy Matt Greene? I want to see his face - nice smiling face - looking at me on the front page. All I see at the moment is a pretty tri-suit (mostly butt) riding away from me, anonymous, I am unable to relate to that, give me a face - and no sunglasses! I gotta look you in the eye if you want me to give you money!
Further to that re-write the bio so it appeals to a sponsor. Delete the stuff only your aunt would think is cute, eg. "I got my first speedo when I was four."
Say instead, "I have been racing in a Speedo ® since I was four." - and include the Registered Trademark symbol!
Some useful site-building tips here
and here: Funky Chickens
best of luck,
PoC
"Pain doesn't last, chicks dig scars, glory is forever!"
- Shane Falco.

Funny how all the guys know exactly what Desiree's webpage looks like... ;)
We are just really interested in her athletic ability :rolleyes:
the pic on the right has you riding off the page, reverse it so you face the text.
I figured that I'd just mirror flip the pictures to make this work. Then I realized my suit said ADIROLF instead of FLORIDA. Oops! :D I've been making tons of changes today (would've been more, but my professors are slightly sadistic). Thanks for the help! Hopefully it'll be somewhat presentable in the next few days.
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-Matt
Not fast enough.
Hey, I train in the same town and see her at meetings!
*feels justified* ;)
"Care more than others think is wise, risk more than others think is safe, dream more than others think is practical, expect more than others think is possible."
I figured that I'd just mirror flip the pictures to make this work. Then I realized my suit said ADIROLF instead of FLORIDA. Oops! :D I've been making tons of changes today (would've been more, but my professors are slightly sadistic). Thanks for the help! Hopefully it'll be somewhat presentable in the next few days.
Sounds like a great name for a new brand of wheels, hints of Adidas and Rolf conglomeracy.
If the page is set as a table then the menu element on the right will be bracketed by a pair of [td> [/td> tags (I can't use < brackets or the browser reads them as "real" so replace the square brackets with brevets in HTML <)
Likewise the picture cell will have td tags
table
tr
td
/td
/tr
/table
Just copy the whole menu cell and insert it into the code above the cell containing the picture. This will place the menu on the left on left on that row, followed by the pic.
Have fun.
POC
"Pain doesn't last, chicks dig scars, glory is forever!"
- Shane Falco.

I can't use < brackets or the browser reads them as "real" so replace the square brackets with brevets in HTML <
yeah you can.....
[HTML] [/HTML]
see? :D
Thanks for the help, PoC.....obviously I know more about wasting time posting on forums than doing anything that resembles REAL work on the interwebz!
I used an online website creator, so hopefully I can find the HTML for it somewhere to edit it. I think I picked the wrong host, but it's too late now since I've already paid for the damn thing!:D
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-Matt
Not fast enough.
yeah you can.....
[HTML] [/HTML]
see? :DThanks for the help, PoC.....obviously I know more about wasting time posting on forums than doing anything that resembles REAL work on the interwebz!
I used an online website creator, so hopefully I can find the HTML for it somewhere to edit it. I think I picked the wrong host, but it's too late now since I've already paid for the damn thing!:D
Okay, smartypants.
Your file manager should let you edit your index.html file.
So, can you make a table?
Put your header on one row with a colspan of 3
next row 3 cols, that td /td thang
insert pix and text.
repeat as necessary.
I've done so many of these that it is hard to imagine OP having trouble, but I think you can master this and you won't need an online website creator. I don't like the things myself.
P.S. I just looked at your page. That looks much better. I like the photo montage because now we can see your face. I think sponsors can relate to that better. How about a photo gallery? Then we can see the full sized pix.
Some pages I have built:
EventsBC.ca
Powerhouse Theatre, Vernon
Madcapper's Brew House
Vernon Vintners
Fre-Da-Ro Organic Farms
Commercial Kitchen Design
2008 Okanagan Theatre festival
PoC
"Pain doesn't last, chicks dig scars, glory is forever!"
- Shane Falco.

I second Riverbradys coments.
And there is something funny in how "Matt Greene Triathlete" logo + bike route logo are showing up in my screen. I would defenitly work a bit on fixing that cause it looks dirty.
Hyperactive Trifueler!!!! (I refuse to let the status go :p)
I'd suggest getting off of a free creator (despite its ease of use), in order to remove the advertisement at the bottom. It may be as easy as paying them a small fee every month to have "paid hosting." Also, if this service you are using allows the association of a domain name to your site, I would advise you taking advantage of that. Those can be had at a really low price: Godaddy.com, Tucows, etc...
You can follow my progress @ http://triphile.wordpress.com.
I already pay to have all the banners taken off, and I'm working on getting my own domain, but some dude in atlanta has it (even though he's not using it) and won't return phone calls.
No one said this stuff was such a pain in the ass! :D
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-Matt
Not fast enough.
Really? You've paid for all the banners to be taken off? I just went back to check the original link, and there is still the "powered by...free web blah blah blah" thingy. That sucks about the dude in hotlanta; were you planning on your first/last name? Maybe you could give yourself an egotistic nickname like Macca's, except his was already taken by Paul McCartney, too. lol, off topic. Anyway, gl.
You can follow my progress @ http://triphile.wordpress.com.










I'm trying to make a webpage and I'm not very good at it. Sponsorship application season is upon us and I want this thing to look good! Problem is.....it really doesn't. Be brutal and help me out....:D
If anyone knows of some good (free!) software that can be used for this sort of thing, I'd be happy to know!
So here it is:
www.mattgreene.gowideweb.com
I'm trying to get ride of the whole gowideweb-thing, but some lawyer in Atlanta has the mattgreene.com domain. Hopefully I'll get it soon and can have the better domain name.
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-Matt
Not fast enough.