The Dead Horse Thread
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jtrimom posted 2 weeks ago.
what bike should I buy? j/k
In the other thread, you said "close to the coast and easternish" Does Adelaide, Australia qualify as Easternish? hmmm
I don't have any advice for you on either of your dead horse questions. I happen to relish swimming lately, But I am just doing "whatever" workouts that come to mind.
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SueR posted 2 weeks ago.
It might not be a bad idea to buy a hard case box for your bike. I always packed alot of stuff in my bike box when I travelled with it, but there is a weight limit.
Nice thread idea! I like it!
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Anton posted 2 weeks ago.
I think folks flog themselves way too much in the pool for so little gain.
Getting ready fro an IM, I swim twice a week. Repeat 500 meters building to over race distance.
Get out of the pool for a while. Go back when you want. or go but when you feel like it, not because of some schedule. Yes a couple of times a week, doing what you want, for the next few months will keep you in fine stead.
I've never shipped a bike. Can't help you there.
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aussieboy13 posted 2 weeks ago.
jwillia852 wrote:
*Decided on Adelaide, AustraliaThanks as always!
(Feel free to use this thread for your own dead horse questions)
Pretty cool area. Haha I live in sydney.
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TriSooner posted 2 weeks ago.
jwillia852 wrote:
How long can I hang up my goggles before I have to get back in the pool? is okay and my yardage has been plentiful.
My best guess would be you could skip a month all together and not lose much. Maybe just do one swim a week, or maybe even every other week. If you took three months off it may be a chore to start back up again. But more importantly, if you are really that burned out, forget about what coming back will be like in 30, 60, 90 days if you take them off. Take time off now if you aren't enjoying it. You'll come back stronger psychologically regardless of how long you take off.
jwillia852 wrote:
Question 2:How much does it cost to ship your bike? How far does a bike get broken down? Can I pack all my cycling gear in the box?
Frankfurt to Dallas via FedEx was $500USD in hard-sided box. The only things you take off are the wheels and pedals. Everything else is loosened (seat post, bars) and rotated or lowered to fit into box with only a pedal wrench and your multitool. A quality bike box will also accomodate some gear - shoes, clothes, wedgie - but not helmet. You also have to be carefull of loading the box down so much the weight increases the shipping cost.
jwillia852 wrote:
[(Feel free to use this thread for your own dead horse questions)
Why thank you, I don't mind if I do . . . Which bike should I buy? Are aero wheels worth it? If so, which are the fastest? What is the difference between Ultegra and Dura Ace? I found this really good deal on a bike - what do you think? Should I buy a used bike? I'm doing my first tri - can I borrow a bike? Is aero equipment really faster? How much faster? How do I take an hour off my marathon time in 21 days? Which saddle should I buy so my balls don't catch on fire? How do I prevent saddle sores? Should I train on a road or tri bike? Do I need a coach? Can I finish X race if I only train Y? How much should I train? But what if I do X, Y, and Z instead? Should I lift weights? Why do I suck at swimming? I'm horrified of open water, have zero experience in OWS, and am prone to panic attacks - so this ocean swim is a good idea, right? I have this obscure injury that I'm barely describing literately and I know none of you can diagnose anything over a web forum, but OMG I have a race in __ days, what should I do? I probably have SARS, Swine Flu and Scabies - should I do my race this weekend? What do you wear for your races? What should I wear? Should I wear a wetsuit? Is a wetsuit worth it for a 300m indoor pool swim in July? Why do guys shave their legs? What kind of traininer should I buy - fluid or mag? How do you keep from swallowing your tongue from boredom on the trainer? What movies do you watch when you ride your trainer? Why is there such angst over the Speedo? Why is racing in a Speedo a running joke? Which wetsuit should I get? Why doesn't my wetsuit fit? Why am I not getting faster at anything? Is running on a treadmill the same as running outdoors? Is spin class the same as outdoor cycling? How long should I taper? How long should I recover? What should I do for active recovery? Which training plan should I use?* What should I eat? I am gaining/losing weight - why is that? Which supplements should I take? Which aero helmet is the fastest? I need a training partner it East Armpit, Wyoming** - anyone want to get together? Is a non-Ironman branded event the same as an Ironman? I have a certain brand of computer or GPS I can't use, how do I calibrate it? Which Ironman is easiest/hardest and/or has the most elevation? How do I ship my bike? Should I fly with it as luggage, use a race-day service, or ship it via FedEx/UPS? Do you run with an iPod? Should races ban iPods? What is on your iPod?
If you asked a question listed above - which I have done so too - I'm not calling anyone out. Don't get all pissy.
*I've asked this one.
**I love Wyoming. Least populated state, low odds.
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jwillia852 posted 2 weeks ago.
jtrimom wrote:
In the other thread, you said "close to the coast and easternish" Does Adelaide, Australia qualify as Easternish? hmmm
Haha, Technically I think it is about as East as you can get before you are West, lol. Change of plans as I am sure you can imagine.
Sooner, better response than I could ever had hoped for.
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jtrimom posted 2 weeks ago.
[quote=TriSooner
Why thank you, I don't mind if I do . . . Which bike should I buy? Are aero wheels worth it? If so, which are the fastest? What is the difference between Ultegra and Dura Ace? I found this really good deal on a bike - what do you think? Should I buy a used bike? I'm doing my first tri - can I borrow a bike? Is aero equipment really faster? How much faster? How do I take an hour off my marathon time in 21 days? Which saddle should I buy so my balls don't catch on fire? How do I prevent saddle sores? Should I train on a road or tri bike? Do I need a coach? Can I finish X race if I only train Y? How much should I train? But what if I do X, Y, and Z instead? Should I lift weights? Why do I suck at swimming? I'm horrified of open water, have zero experience in OWS, and am prone to panic attacks - so this ocean swim is a good idea, right? I have this obscure injury that I'm barely describing literately and I know none of you can diagnose anything over a web forum, but OMG I have a race in __ days, what should I do? I probably have SARS, Swine Flu and Scabies - should I do my race this weekend? What do you wear for your races? What should I wear? Should I wear a wetsuit? Is a wetsuit worth it for a 300m indoor pool swim in July? Why do guys shave their legs? What kind of traininer should I buy - fluid or mag? How do you keep from swallowing your tongue from boredom on the trainer? What movies do you watch when you ride your trainer? Why is there such angst over the Speedo? Why is racing in a Speedo a running joke? Which wetsuit should I get? Why doesn't my wetsuit fit? Why am I not getting faster at anything? Is running on a treadmill the same as running outdoors? Is spin class the same as outdoor cycling? How long should I taper? How long should I recover? What should I do for active recovery? Which training plan should I use?* What should I eat? I am gaining/losing weight - why is that? Which supplements should I take? Which aero helmet is the fastest? I need a training partner it East Armpit, Wyoming** - anyone want to get together? Is a non-Ironman branded event the same as an Ironman? I have a certain brand of computer or GPS I can't use, how do I calibrate it? Which Ironman is easiest/hardest and/or has the most elevation? How do I ship my bike? Should I fly with it as luggage, use a race-day service, or ship it via FedEx/UPS? Do you run with an iPod? Should races ban iPods? What is on your iPod?
If you asked a question listed above - which I have done so too - I'm not calling anyone out. Don't get all pissy.
*I've asked this one.
**I love Wyoming. Least populated state, low odds.
TEARS rolling down my face, I laughed SO hard! thanks, Sooner :)
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Anton posted 2 weeks ago.
Sooner...you ARE wicked! I love it.
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gfd posted 2 weeks ago.
I have done 1 swim workout since September and have no plans to do one any time soon. It is all about doing what makes me happy in the off-season and right now running and lifting light weights makes me happy.
What is the best recovery drink besides chocolate milk?
What bike should I buy besides a Cervelo, because everyone has a Cervelo? (I have a Cervelo)
Can pushups, curls, walking up the steps, drinking 16 oz beers, and napping count for core points? My abs are actively engaged so they should count right? (Just having fun, not being serious)
One of the greatest responses of all time Sooner. And I bet you rattled it off in under 5 minutes.
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PrinceofClydes posted 2 weeks ago.
Sooo, back to the swimming question.
#1 I think you should swim at least 5-10 times in the six months or so before the race, whether you need to or not.
For example, I swam 9 times last year, before IMC end of August, but I didn't get in th ewater until the the ice broke up and went out, say July 17th. I managed to fit in 9 or 10 swims before the race Aug 24th and my swim leg was 1:31:00 with no pain.
Now this year, I separated my shoulder in Feb playing BB so I held off on the swimming until July 27th and still managed to get in 5 swims before the race Aug 30th and I went 3 minutes faster in 1:28:00 and the shoulder was fine.
You may draw your own conclusions.
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#2. Tear the bike down to the limit, wrap it in bubblewrap and put it in a cardboard box. It'll be fine.
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NotAsFast posted 2 weeks ago.
To quote a legendary thread......
"How do you get a carbon seat post out, that is seized in an aluminum frame ?"
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gfd posted 2 weeks ago.
Do I look like a dork training in my compression socks?
If I ride with only one earbud in and the music not too loud am I safe?
Should I eat before my morning workouts and if so, what should I eat?
If a person is hogging the lane at my local pool and is ignoring me on the deck, should I jump on top of them as I enter the pool?
If I am riding my tri bike and a roadie passes and doesn't wave back what does this mean about me and the state of our country?
"Which saddle should I buy so my balls don't catch on fire?" ~ TriSooner
After rereading the post this one is my favorite.
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CreamedCorn posted 2 weeks ago.
Why doesn't my gym call off aquacising when they see me walk in the door?
Cream of the crop? I'm the cream of the corn.
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jwillia852 posted 2 weeks ago.
Wait a second! These are all fair tri-athlon, ergh, triathalon, related questions.
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jtrimom posted 2 weeks ago.
jwillia852 wrote:
Wait a second! These are all fair tri-athlon, ergh, triathalon, related questions.
I was just thinking that if someone new to the forum read these questions, s/he wouldn't get it. Most are pretty valid, although having been here for a while, many are hilarious :)
oh, and can I/ should I have sex before a big race? How often is too often? Will it make my performance better or worse? Is abstinence worth better performance? What if I don't have a partner? Will it work by myself? Does is still count as tapering if I am using all the time/energy I would be in the pool/on my bike/running, in bed with my significant other?
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TriSooner posted 2 weeks ago.
jtrimom wrote:
Can I/ should I have sex before a big race?
You always have to go there, don't you?
CreamedCorn wrote:
Why doesn't my gym call off aquacising when they see me walk in the door?
Brilliant.
gfd wrote:
Do I look like a dork training in my compression socks? If I ride with only one earbud in and the music not too loud am I safe? Should I eat before my morning workouts and if so, what should I eat? If a person is hogging the lane at my local pool and is ignoring me on the deck, should I jump on top of them as I enter the pool? If I am riding my tri bike and a roadie passes and doesn't wave back what does this mean about me and the state of our country?
Great additions, especially they "Why are roadies rude?"
NotAsFast wrote:
"How do you get a carbon seat post out, that is seized in an aluminum frame ?"
Which reminded me of all of the questions like, "I found a crack in my carbon frame. Is it still safe to ride?"
I reposted this to my Facebook notes page because it's an awesome list.
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SueR posted 2 weeks ago.
So none of us are immune from Sooner! Too friggin funny! And they are all pretty good questions, except for my damn seatpost one! Stupid thing...
You forgot:
Why can't I stay on the treadmill for three hours at the gym? Why do the kids have to dive for the brick in my lane?
Oh, and classic...what's a taint?
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prendergi posted 2 weeks ago.
That list is so dang FUNNY!! Got to add the shaving questions! How much faster would I be if I shaved? What do you use for shaving? What is better - shaving or waxing?
"The pain of discipline is far less than the pain of regret" - Sarah Bombell
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jtrimom posted 2 weeks ago.
TriSooner wrote:
jtrimom wrote:Can I/ should I have sex before a big race?You always have to go there, don't you?
I think it's expected...I hate to disappoint
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TonisTri posted 2 weeks ago.
"Can I call myself a triathlete if I s/b/r but have never done a triathlon?" -my fav
That which does not kill me makes me faster...
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PJT posted 2 weeks ago.
Why do I think that Sooner had his list written months before this thread went up?
Only thing I can add to all the brilliance above:
Tubulars or clinchers?
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PrinceofClydes posted 2 weeks ago.
Send them to tribro for the new FAQs page we always shoulda had..
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krazyfranco posted 2 weeks ago.
PrinceofClydes wrote:
Send them to tribro for the new FAQs page we always shoulda had..PoC
Lets do it. I'd be willing to organize things, if users were willing to contribute the content. I think the FAQs we talked about previously would be a short blip to answer the question, then links to relevant threads.
Who is interested?
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beads1985 posted 2 weeks ago.
TriSooner wrote:
jwillia852 wrote:[(Feel free to use this thread for your own dead horse questions)Why thank you, I don't mind if I do . . . Which saddle should I buy so my balls don't catch on fire? How do I prevent saddle sores? I have this obscure injury that I'm barely describing literately and I know none of you can diagnose anything over a web forum, but OMG I have a race in __ days, what should I do? I probably have SARS, Swine Flu and Scabies - should I do my race this weekend?should I get? ....
If you asked a question listed above - which I have done so too - I'm not calling anyone out. Don't get all pissy.
*I've asked this one.
**I love Wyoming. Least populated state, low odds.
Well I guess I got the right saddle, my a$$ hurts sometimes but my b@lls have never burst into flames!
Thank God! That would kill my 'tapering' ;-)
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beads1985 posted 2 weeks ago.
What I really want to know is "What do the Trifuel Women think?'" ;-)
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gfd posted 2 weeks ago.
wannakona wrote:
What tattoo should i get?
Nice!!!
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jwillia852 posted 2 weeks ago.
jtrimom wrote:
jwillia852 wrote:Wait a second! These are all fair tri-athlon, ergh, triathalon, related questions.I was just thinking that if someone new to the forum read these questions, s/he wouldn't get it. Most are pretty valid, although having been here for a while, many are hilarious :)
oh, and can I/ should I have sex before a big race? How often is too often? Will it make my performance better or worse? Is abstinence worth better performance? What if I don't have a partner? Will it work by myself? Does is still count as tapering if I am using all the time/energy I would be in the pool/on my bike/running, in bed with my significant other?
see, im glad i started a new thread. The content has been gold, jerry, gold. One more question... Will I be ready for this race if I did this other race six months earlier?
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tri-ac posted 2 weeks ago.
what should my max heart rate be?
why do i run slower with my HRM?
which power meter should i get if i have no money?
do compression socks make me look fat?
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CadenceGuy posted 2 weeks ago.
Do you guys have someone hold a towel up when you are changing from your swim to bike clothes or do you just drop trouser and go for it?
My underwear always gets bunched up while Im riding. What do you guys do to keep your underwear from getting that way?
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gfd posted 1 week ago.
Are their other uses for GU besides a nutritional supplement? Specifically chocolate GU?
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jtrimom posted 1 week ago.
If my ______ (body part) is broken, should I still do my race tomorrow?
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prendergi posted 1 week ago.
Should I just pee when riding or stop and go in the bushes?
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jwillia852 posted 1 week ago.
TriSooner wrote:
jwillia852 wrote:Question 2:How much does it cost to ship your bike? How far does a bike get broken down? Can I pack all my cycling gear in the box?Frankfurt to Dallas via FedEx was $500USD in hard-sided box. The only things you take off are the wheels and pedals. Everything else is loosened (seat post, bars) and rotated or lowered to fit into box with only a pedal wrench and your multitool. A quality bike box will also accomodate some gear - shoes, clothes, wedgie - but not helmet. You also have to be carefull of loading the box down so much the weight increases the shipping cost.
The more I look into it the more I realize it would cost me A LOT less to keep my bike (La Poena Noire, her name is) here for the 18 months and just buy one when I get there. Then sell it before I leave. Maybe I can find a sweet tri bike. I'll be sure to ask the group what bike to buy when I get there :-D... Just Kidding... Seriously.
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MillMan221 posted 1 week ago.
"Does my butt look big in this wetsuit?"
"What's a brick?"
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Why? Many people have asked me... to test my limits ... and to push beyond them.
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Anton posted 1 week ago.
I went for a run/bike/swim today and it was hard. What's wrong with me?
My wife/husband tells me if I do one more long workout, she/he will leave me. What should I do?
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PrinceofClydes posted 1 week ago.
MillMan221 wrote:
"Does my butt look big in this wetsuit?"
"What's a brick?"
Answers:
1) Of course it looks big, you just added 1/2 inch of rubber to your butt, that's a 3 inch increase in your hip measurement!
2) A "Brick" is a swim training aid. Tuck it into the back of your "surfer shorts."
heh.
I couldn't resist.
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MillMan221 posted 1 week ago.
This thread should be a *sticky* it is too funny.
Just thought up a new signature line: "Bricks - not just for Buildings."
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Why? Many people have asked me... to test my limits ... and to push beyond them.
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jwillia852 posted 1 week ago.
I heard something the other day from 'someone in the know' so thought I would throw out a Trivia for the day: Do you know what Brick stands for?
Answer: It was originally BRIC Training. An acronym for "Bike Run In Consecutive order Training"
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TonisTri posted 1 week ago.
That's odd. My Triathlon Training Plan book by Mike Fitzgerald credits a New Zealand triathlete with the name "Mike Brick." Paging Trisooner....Come in Trisooner...
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Amphibious Triton posted 1 week ago.
I had alway hear the "Mike Brick" story too.
I think I have one. What is the average MPH on a road bike? How do I increase my speed without riding more milage?
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jwillia852 posted 4 days ago.
So... if any of you are still following this thread I'd like to go back to the original post for a second.
I will be gone 18 months. I am seriously contemplating not bringing my bike (WAY too expensive). If you were in a similar situation, and you know that your bike will be roughly 3 -4 years old when you got back on it, would you ever consider selling it before you leave?
It is a Trek Madone: Carbon Fiber with 105/Ultegra.
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CreamedCorn posted 4 days ago.
The bike won't go bad, but it will depreciate in value in the year and half that you're not using it. It's pretty new now but 3+ years might be the threshold for 'older'. Plus you'll have to either pay to check it over cuz it's been sitting so long or do it yourself before you get back on it. I say sell it and use the money to help buy a new bike when you get there. Maybe you'll find a cool brand based in AUS that you've never heard of. Good luck with whatever you choose.
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jwillia852 posted 4 days ago.
Thanks - Yah I'm not worried about the bike sitting for the time, rather I fear the depreciation end of it. Tough one for sure...
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xc800runner posted 4 days ago.
jwillia852 wrote:
Thanks - Yah I'm not worried about the bike sitting for the time, rather I fear the depreciation end of it. Tough one for sure...
Seriously, just take it along with you.
Last time I flew my bike from Houston to middle of nowhere Malaysia, I got pinged for a bike fee on Continental between Houston and LAX, and that was only because my layover was 12 hours and outside of the baggage transfer window. Otherwise, flying the bike via Malaysia Air from LAX to home was considered one piece of luggage and was free of charge in a cardboard box. Granted, it was a CroMo fixie and I wasn't worried about too much of it getting damaged in transit, so the entire piece weighed about 25 pounds.
As the triathlon season is now done for some, I have come up with a few questions that I know have been asked before... many times... but since the content has been so entertaining lately I figured I'd start a new one :-) AND... I know everyone is different, but lets just say I am you... what would you do...
First Question: It deals with the pool. I have come to resent the fact that 84 degree pool water < 90 degree pool deck < 95 degree rinse shower < 99.1 degree big jacket and clothes. Realistically, How long can I hang up my goggles before I have to get back in the pool? I am still very active, but don't think I can handle one more swim workout. At one point I thought I was losing my lungs when my workouts got shorter, but then I realized I was just bored.
Will one moderate workout/week for next 2-3 months be enough to keep my shoulders loose and hair frizzy?
As for some background info: I have never been on a swim team so don't know much about structured workouts. The swim has historically been my best leg -- usually in the top 10%-15% out of the water; so I have yet to "lose it in the swim" (I save the losing it for the run.) My form is okay and my yardage has been plentiful.
Question 2:
Lets just say you were racing in (or moving to*) Australia. How much does it cost to ship your bike? How far does a bike get broken down? Can I pack all my cycling gear in the box? What is the best process? Can my LTS pack it up and then let my folks send it when I'm ready?
*Decided on Adelaide, Australia
Thanks as always!
(Feel free to use this thread for your own dead horse questions)
Jeff