Pool Golf Rules?
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krazyfranco posted 3 weeks ago.
I've heard of this. I don't know what 'par' is, but you've got the idea - fewer strokes and faster times are the goals. Keep working in that direction.
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groovyjen posted 3 weeks ago.
Do a search on ironmom. She's posted on the swim golf score before and just generally has great swim advice.
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jenez_world posted 3 weeks ago.
there are alot of great webistes that go into detail about dps x stroke rate. thorpie swam 2 metres per stroke at 72 strokes per minute. what can happen is the faster your stroke rate then your distance per stroke can decrease. for me i need to increase my stroke rate as i have better technique then and i have been able to maintain my dps. this is all basically swimming golf.
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dkhartung posted 3 weeks ago.
I've never heard of "par" for swim golf. Not sure it really makes sense given that each of us are so different physically. The point as I understand it is to use swim golf as a drill that forces you to concentrate on long powerful strokes while still maintaining reasonable stroke turnover.
Since I really don't like doing math in the water, I usually just count my strokes while doing 50 repeats. Something like (in yards).
20x50 @:50 sec repeats with 6 strokes per length
5 at 35 sec
5 at 32 sec
5 at 30 sec
5 at 28 sec all while maintaining the stroke count
Another variation is to try and bring down the stroke count on each set of 5 while maintaining the same speed.
Lot's of ways to do this drill, point is to get longer, and faster!
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beads1985 posted 3 weeks ago.
That does sound familiar. +1 to checking for ironmom.
I might have to try this for training this winter.
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jwillia852 posted 3 weeks ago.
dkhartung wrote:
20x50 @:50 sec repeats with 6 strokes per length
5 at 35 sec
5 at 32 sec
5 at 30 sec
5 at 28 sec all while maintaining the stroke count
6 strokes per length? That's very Michael Phelpseque
Am I missing something here? I would consider myself a strong swimmer; typically among the first out, 5'11, long smooth strokes, yadda. My best (most efficient) stroke count is around 16/length, I can get it down but lose my speed - no where close to sub 10. And are those times based on 50 yard? Those times seem somewhat unsustainable, even for a strong swimmer, especially at that stroke count.
edit: I'm not doubting as everyone is different and this is your set, and you may be a swimming champ, haha. I just wanted to understand if these stroke counts and corresponding times are an adequate benchmark for a relatively strong, albeit non-championship level, swimmer.
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dkhartung posted 3 weeks ago.
Fair question. The times are for yards, and the stroke count is based on counting strokes on one arm; i.e. I count the number of times I reach with the left arm. If counting each arm individually, my stroke count is 11-12.
I'm a reasonably proficient former serious swimer, but certainly not Phelpsian.
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jwillia852 posted 3 weeks ago.
AAAH - phew, lol. Makes sense. Still a lot faster than me but a good benchmark for the future!
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knemyer posted 1 week ago.
Terry Laughlin's Total Immersion swim technique training plan uses "golf" as a different type of drill. To be honest, I guess I thought this was his invention. Anyway, count your strokes down and back (this works best in a 25 yard pool, you'll soon see why). You should be able to be around 16 to 20 each way for a 50 yard total of 32 to 40. Then, just add your time for the 50. An average to slightly above average swimmer (that would be me) should be able to do 18 strokes per length fairly easy, in about :45, so this total would be (36 + 45 =) 81. Fairly comparable to a decent golf score for 18 holes. A good swimmer could easily do "par", 72. I believe that's where the whole "golf" idea came from: a drill concentrating on both form (stroke count) and speed (50 yard sprints) just happens to approximate a golf score of 72, so the drill was called "golf". Increasing your pace, while keeping good form, or decreasing strokes per length, while maintaining the same speed, will result in a lower score. Good drill!
Hi all
I´ve read before about a training target called swim golf i think and i remember that "par" or the target was 60 or below. Am I right? I just wanted to clarify that this is based on 50yards where you add the total number of strokes to the seconds?
I guess loosely you aiming for something like a 30sec finish with 30 strokes. wow!!!
I´m actually swimming in a 25m pool so 50m is a little longer and therefore my strokes will be more as well - but at the mo i do 50m in about 36secs using about 38strokes. If my understanding of the rules are correct I´ve got a long way to go!
If someone could just confirm that i understand this correctly that would be great. I normally start in the water but obviously do a normal push off and tumble turn at the end of the 25m pool.
Thanks
Simon