IM recovery then another one
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Joe_H posted 16 weeks ago.
I've heard of folks doing don't know if you should but I don't know you that well or fitness levels but if you go off your meds and do try this coach chuckie v just posted this article about a guy doing IMLP and IMKY:
http://www.xtri.com/coaches_display.aspx?riIDReport=5805&CAT=41&xref=xx
what I'm up to:
http://www.athletefocus.com/forum/sport/triathlon
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prendergi posted 16 weeks ago.
Can't say who is right or who is wrong expecially since I have yet to do anything past a sprint. But reading about recovery from a marathon ( I know we are talking IM and not just a marathon) but seeing how it is the running is the most stressful part as far as pounding goes (not trying to dismiss the effort put out during the swim or bike) the good word is 4 weeks to recover from a marathon. Like I said, as far as the pounding on the body goes I would think five weeks is good. I would image you could recover from a IM distance swim and bike faster than the marathon part. I could be totally off but trying to think logically about recovery I would say 5 weeks might just be enough but I have nothing to back that up.
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TriSooner posted 16 weeks ago.
1) You still have until Oct 24 to decide, and a lot will happen between now and then. One of which may be an over-training injury which will answer that question for you. The other may be burn-out, which may also answer the question in the form of, "Hell no, not two. Get one over with and I'm out for awhile."
2) If neither of the above happen, you then may be stuck in a weird five week "no man's land." Five weeks is just long enough to fully recover. And fully de-condition if you aren't able to ramp back up to speed the first available chance you get. Think about the timing: race Florida. Recover one week, maybe two, and immediately you go back to a ~20-hour week. That's mentally tough. Or, said another way, if you were to do the back-to-back weekend thing instead, the only issue you'd have to worry about is getting is as much physical recovery you can (e.g., you take a week off after, do nothing but sleep, then race again the next weekend).
But with an extended time lapse between the two you've chosen, you then have the problem of whether you will be psychologically ready to go from recovery to 100% top-end training volume in zero flat. I don't think you can "maintain" Iron-level conditioning without doing Iron-level volume. I know it's not an option, but IMHO the double-header IM is best either back-to-back S&M style or spread way out with time to recovery both physically and mentally and then pick up the second IM program mid-stream with 8 weeks or so to go.
Granted, I think it'd be bad a$$ to finish more than one 140.6 in one season. I also know my tolerance level for training that takes over my life, which are limitations between my ears.
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jwillia852 posted 16 weeks ago.
You're signed up for both?
Nobody's advice is really valuable as you know your body better than anyone else...
You'll be in shape - so as long as you don't have an injury, it's just a matter of whether your brain can hold on.
Sooner's right though.. 2 140.6's would be pretty bad ass.
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cayman posted 16 weeks ago.
How well, quickly do you recover? You'll need to get back on the bike fairly soon after the 1st to keep your legs from freezing up, easy rides. Same for the run, the sooner you can get back out there the better, no 2 or 3 weeks off, but again easy in to it. I always plan for a run the next day just to see what's what, not recommending it, that's just me.
Most important, listen to your body if it's not happening don't push it. I think it can be done, the trick is to carry over your peak training without losing too much of it to down time. Like trisooner said, keep your head in the game.
Good luck.
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KitKat posted 16 weeks ago.
TryScott wrote:
I'm right and he's wrong, right? :)
Of course :D
I understand your need for validation.
You know yourself better then anyone else, unless you have a coach, then they should know you better and if they don't you should fire them. Listen to either your coach or your body.
The sky's the limit baby, if you want to do both you can...you just have to be smart.
**Pain is weakness leaving the body**
*Smile, it does a body good*
I see a lot of people asking questions on forums that they should be asking professional coaches. This may be one of those questions. Should I be doing 2 Ironmans 5 weeks apart?
Someone I train with has trying to talk me out of doing The Great Floridian. I'm signed up for TGF and IM Cozumel. As much as I trust his opinion and think he is looking out for me, I want to do both races. I've been asking myself why I'm set on doing both. It may be because in my HIM I screwed up the nutrition, and I felt like if I had another race the following weekend I could of been at least an hour faster. The days following the race I wasn't even sore, and why would I be after walking so much...
Another reason for wanting to do 2 races is because it's twice as much fun as one race, right? I put in the work to be in shape for a long distance event. Why waste all that fitness on just one race? Most sports have an entire season after conditioning in the preseason. I should at least get 2 shots.
Am I going to lose a lot of fitness while recovering from the first race, making the 2nd race hardly worth it? If I don't give myself enough time to recover, I understand the risk of injury is there, but I think 5 weeks is enough time to rest and do 1 or 2 long and slow days.
Another thing to support my argument is that IM Kentucky and IM Canada are both 6 weeks before Kona. Plenty of people that qualify for Kona at those races will be doing another race in 6 weeks. There's only 1 less week between my 2 races.
I'm right and he's wrong, right? :)