Water Aerobics Rant
Wow, that sucks. Fortunately as a a member of the metro area Y, I have a number of pools to choose from. Unfortunately, the closest one is small and has NO idea how to allocate lanes or schedule classes/ teams. It is frustrating, and I feel your pain.
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yeah that sucks. today i drove to my local gym for a swim workout. I got my suit on stretched and did a short warm up. I was about 200 yards into my workout when i get kicked out of the pool so the swim team could practice. What a waste of my life
I could have told you to not mess with the water aerobics ladies. It is their pool. Period.
Jeff
I'm going to have to take the other side of that. I also belong to a 24Hr Fitness that has a pool and water aerobics classes. The schedule of classes is clearly posted so it's easy to tell when the water aerobics class will be taking place. In my gym, the classes have between 10-20 participants. That's when I happily yield to the folk who need the pool. I can't justify my laps trumping 10-20 other people's expectations that the class will start on time. That's 10-20 people who got to the gym for this and it's not like they suddenly take over without notice - so I take it as my responsibility to work around the set class schedule.
I have had too many run-in's with the Aqua Aerobics classes....
My big pet peeve is when they want to take over the pool 20 minutes before the class starts. I have had people just walk into my lane and stand in my way to tell me to leave... before the class....
Another thing that does not help is most gyms outsource the instruction, so the instructor has no concern for anyone not in the class...ie: us...
I'm going to have to take the other side of that . . . so I take it as my responsibility to work around the set class schedule.
+1 Don't get me wrong, I totally understand how a pool deck (especially at 24hr fitness) can result in a rant. Of all places to get in confrontations, the pool deck seems disproportionately well-represented in my rants. I caught all kinds of hell for some of the pool etiquette guidelines I posted (and they weren't even mine, but I endorsed them), some of which relate to my experiences at health club pools (vs. natatoriums).
If there is a water aerobics class scheduled, you should probably defer. I know, I know. I see it every Mon. & Wed. 6 to 7pm: The water aerobics flotilla camps out right in front of the instructor and thus takes up all five lanes when they could spread out in two lanes, leaving a couple open for laps. Regardless, my 24hr Fitness has the same policy even though it is 5 lanes X 25 yards. No lap swimming during water aerobics. If your gym really is open 24 hour a day, and they schedule 3 one-hour classes per week, the pool is closed a whopping 1.7% of the week. That sounds like you (and me) have plenty of other times to swim.
I know it is frustrating, but choose your battles wisely. If the water aerobics class starts early or runs late; if someone won't share a lane; if someone wants to aqua jog in a lane while people are waiting on deck (flame on!); if someone wants to take up a whole lane floatin' on a weenie; if there are kids jerkin' around in a lane, then you have a point. Have a little sympathy for 'em (which I am not known for). Water aerobics may be the only exercise these folks can do. At least they are doing something, so let them bob around. There is a reason they do water aerobics, and it's not because their tri bike is in the shop.
deepbluex wrote:I'm going to have to take the other side of that . . . so I take it as my responsibility to work around the set class schedule.+1 Don't get me wrong, I totally understand how a pool deck (especially at 24hr fitness) can result in a rant.
I am going to have to say -1. I think that it is perfectly reasonable for a swimmer to request 1/2 of 1 lane for 5 min. Think about it how hard is it to get 6" closer to another person sweeting to the oldies to improve someones day? I don't have anything against water aerobics people, I know that swimmers should be able to plan their swims carefully but there is NO reason that both factions can't help each other out.
I did like that "you can swim under through or around" bit though. Not the best way to stop a person who thinks it's fun to dive into a lake with 1000 other people simultaneously.
I yield to no one in my disdain for water aerobics (maybe I'm mixing up cause and effect, but the activity doesn't appear to help anyone get fit, including the instructors at my gym). But I'm with Sooner on this.
If it was a scheduled class and they have the whole pool, schedule your workouts accordingly or politely approach the manager and request 1 lane stay open for swimming. If they say no they say no. Maybe they want the whole pool because they have fluctuating attendance and actually need the whole pool some days.
If they didn't actually post the class schedule, definitely complain to the management. It's hard enough to schedule workouts around work, family life, etc., without unwanted surprises.
However, weaving through the class because you don't like the tone of the instructor and don't want to short your swim 300 cooldown yards only serves to confirm some stereotypes about triathletes.
Agreeing with the check the schedule folks, but there have been a couple occasions that the classes were new and not posted yet- chalked it up as a loss and soaked in the hot tub (no jets during aerobics allowed) and let them have at it. My issue though, is when they show up way early and disrupt those of us in the pool. On more than one occasion I have been "strong-armed" by a few ladies well beyond my age when they feel the need to start taking down lane lines 10-15 minutes early. I continue on with my swim, but it does get annoying when they think they own the pool. Let me finish and I'd be more than happy to help take the lines down, I often do.
To the OP, my favorite times have been when the aerobics classes run late...better think twice before diving into the oil slick that was a pool....they'll get ya!
i dont know what today will bring to me, but thats just fine.
Hate to say it, but it could be worse. The gym at my school has 5 swimming lanes, a 'double' lane for 'recreational' swimming, plus a sizeable deep end which is where they hold some of the aqua fitness classes. Depsite all this space, the pool is only opened for lane swimming for one hour three times a day (twice on weekends). The rest of the day it's booked up for a million stupid little things (like swimming lessons.. for which some classes have maybe 6 people and only use the 'recreational' area). I would kill for a 24 hour pool. Just my two cents.
But I will add, even though I think the scheduled class should be respected, +1 for swimming through the "flotilla" (perfect word trisooner). What a way to simulate swimming through the pack on race day!
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At my local Y they do not post when the "swim team" is coming in and keep the schedule to reflect open lane swimming. I agree with trisooner in that now I know and do not go on Wed mornings when they do take over but the fact it is not posted on the schedule is irksome
I agree, rules are rules and you have to follow them no matter how much they suck. But I also think that people should apply a little common sense every once in a while. If the class isn't full and there is plenty of room, why can't the flotillas just say, "no problem, if you don't mind moving over to the side of the pool you'll be out of our way." When the Scuba Steve Squad shows up to our pool, the lap swimmers gladly consolidate to give them there own half of the pool so they can do their scuba training. But if the pool is busy, the scuba guys will wait until a lane opens up before they start thrashing around with their fins. It works out and everyone is happy.
I'm now realizing how great my pool is, we have a shallow section separate from our lap lanes that they hold the aerobic classes in, so no one is in the way of the other group.
And what's this, is that sympathy I hear from TriSooner? You feeling okay buddy? Maybe you should sit down, you're not acting like yourself :)
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I am so glad I go in to early to deal with that mess! The only mess I have to deal with is whether the lifeguard doesn't show up or the water is all cloudy because they messed up the clorine.
"The pain of discipline is far less than the pain of regret" - Sarah Bombell
I am so glad I go in to early to deal with that mess! The only mess I have to deal with is whether the lifeguard doesn't show up or the water is all cloudy because they messed up the clorine.
ooohhh I HATE it when the lifeguard is late. It screws up my whole morning
Taper Naked
Just to note, I generally swim between 4 and 6 AM to avoid the exact type of issues that I had yesterday. Unfortunately with the holiday and all, my schedule had to be adjusted. I guess that'll teach me to improvise.
Hate to say it, but it could be worse. The gym at my school has 5 swimming lanes, a 'double' lane for 'recreational' swimming, plus a sizeable deep end which is where they hold some of the aqua fitness classes. Depsite all this space, the pool is only opened for lane swimming for one hour three times a day (twice on weekends). The rest of the day it's booked up for a million stupid little things (like swimming lessons.. for which some classes have maybe 6 people and only use the 'recreational' area). I would kill for a 24 hour pool. Just my two cents.
+1, me too.
2 hours of lane swim Sat/Sun, and 3-4 1-hour slots weekdays (mostly while I'm at work). The rest of the time it's booked solid, no lane swim allowed.
Oh and there's "Rec Swim" as well, but unless you want to get smacked with volleyballs and pool noodles, you steer clear.
jono
Just a bit more to add to the ranting....
I went to the pool on the 3rd about halfway into ADULT swim only and it was a zoo. I realize it was a long shot since it was a holiday weekend and the town was packed with tourists but I go to peek and see if there is room to do laps ( no lanes, you just claim your area) and there are about 100 people packed in there. Kids everywhere- babies in the HOT TUB!
I am hoping today that the chemical shock will have worn off by now and i can go back to my quiet pool.
And no one, I mean no one messes with the aerobics class. You can't even go near the water if you are not taking the class.
Just a bit more to add to the ranting....
I went to the pool on the 3rd about halfway into ADULT swim only and it was a zoo. I realize it was a long shot since it was a holiday weekend and the town was packed with tourists but I go to peek and see if there is room to do laps ( no lanes, you just claim your area) and there are about 100 people packed in there. Kids everywhere- babies in the HOT TUB!
I am hoping today that the chemical shock will have worn off by now and i can go back to my quiet pool.
And no one, I mean no one messes with the aerobics class. You can't even go near the water if you are not taking the class.
I'm going to have to take the other side of that. I also belong to a 24Hr Fitness that has a pool and water aerobics classes. The schedule of classes is clearly posted so it's easy to tell when the water aerobics class will be taking place.
Another + 1 to this. As a coach and swim instructor, I'm frequently on the other side of this story - the side in which I have to gently persuade some stubborn @!#! to give up "his" or "her" lap lane and move over and (OMG, Gasp) SHARE a lane with someone else so that my class or Master's group, which has been ON THE SCHEDULE FOR FIVE YEARS AT THE SAME TIME can have two of the lanes.
You would not believe the amount of crap some people will give me over this. And this is at a pool that has dozens of hours of adult-only lap swim, a pool in which you very rarely have to share the lane with one other person, let alone two. There are swimmers who come in repeatedly 15 minutes before my class starts, swim in one of the two lanes that they already know will turn into class lanes at the appointed hour, and still get huffy with me (or continue doing flip turns into my face even after I'm waving kickboards underwater at them).
If it's on the schedule, work your swim times around it. And make sure you leave enough time for your yardage to be completed, not five minutes over the hour. If you don't like the schedule, take it up with the management, but not with the aerobics instructor or patrons. You only make triathletes look like dorks.
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This thread actually gave me a nightmare - I was being held underwater by a a crowd of Aqua aerobics participants while they kicked me.... Man am I going to steer clear of those classes...
hey, the whole thing boils down to a faction NOT willing to share the pool when there is plenty of room for both the lap swimmers AND the water aerobics group. I mean, we all here expect "sharing" when it comes to biking on the roads, right?
deepbluex wrote:I'm going to have to take the other side of that. I also belong to a 24Hr Fitness that has a pool and water aerobics classes. The schedule of classes is clearly posted so it's easy to tell when the water aerobics class will be taking place.Another + 1 to this. As a coach and swim instructor, I'm frequently on the other side of this story - the side in which I have to gently persuade some stubborn @!#! to give up "his" or "her" lap lane and move over and (OMG, Gasp) SHARE a lane with someone else so that my class or Master's group, which has been ON THE SCHEDULE FOR FIVE YEARS AT THE SAME TIME can have two of the lanes.
You would not believe the amount of crap some people will give me over this. And this is at a pool that has dozens of hours of adult-only lap swim, a pool in which you very rarely have to share the lane with one other person, let alone two. There are swimmers who come in repeatedly 15 minutes before my class starts, swim in one of the two lanes that they already know will turn into class lanes at the appointed hour, and still get huffy with me (or continue doing flip turns into my face even after I'm waving kickboards underwater at them).
If it's on the schedule, work your swim times around it. And make sure you leave enough time for your yardage to be completed, not five minutes over the hour. If you don't like the schedule, take it up with the management, but not with the aerobics
instructor or patrons. You only make triathletes look like dorks.
I agree with Ironmom. I didn't like my work out getting interrupted it but I agree. Lap swimmers get "their" time why shouldn't the water aerobics people? They pay club fees as well. Give them the respect that you are asking for.
Could be worse! A few weeks ago I was Rickrolled by my gyms water aerobics class. There I was swimming along minding my own business when the class started. No problem. They took up 2 of the 6 lanes and I was on the far side of the pool and the music was a nice change. Then it came:
Were no strangers to love
You know the rules and so do i
AAAARRRRRGGGHHHHHH!!!!!
I got up and walked out. No cool down. Didn't dry off. Just left.
Can anyone clarify WHY no one is allowed in the pool during waterobics? My pool just put up signs with the same rules. It can't be space because we have 6 lanes x 25 meters. That's a HUGE space for the 10 participants. This is an outdoor pool and they clear EVERYONE out, even sunbathers. Is it modesty?
Chad from Arizona
Can anyone clarify WHY no one is allowed in the pool during waterobics? My pool just put up signs with the same rules. It can't be space because we have 6 lanes x 25 meters. That's a HUGE space for the 10 participants. This is an outdoor pool and they clear EVERYONE out, even sunbathers. Is it modesty?
I know when I worked at a pool 20 years ago that yes it was a modesty thing. The athletic challenged waterobic people felt less comfortable in the pool with others(maybe if they hadn't called the class Lumpy Ladies it would have helped ahahaha). They also paid a fee for this opportunity. If you have a lap swim in theory kids arent allowed with floaties. It really is the same thing.
Also -1 to the OP on this one. If the lanes are reserved we need to honor it whether or not we like it. We have to expect the same courtesy of ourselves as we expect of others. Now if the lanes are not reserved the management needs to get with the program as that isn't cool and you have a legit beef to take up.
No clue on the sharing my Y will and has water aerobics classes at lunch and in the early morning. But we seem to all share as we have 9 lanes x 25 yds. We lappers get the last 3 lanes and it is always the same 6 or 9 gals and guys touching/flipping, and cruising. However the pool is crystal clear and since I always breath to the right it isn't a pleasant sight in one direction, icccckkckckck..., I really need to work on alternating my breathing.
Why can't we just all get along....
No one has mentioned limiting class sizes (unless I missed it).
If a pool can support x people, why not limit the Lumpy Ladies/Masters Swim/Toddler Time to x-y members? Then z sq ft of the pool can remain open for general use. Class times are posted - those attending should have time to register and once its full, its full.
The same thing applies in spin class; it is just logistically easier because there are only so many bikes. But notice, there are generally other bikes still available, because the spin room segregates a portion of the supply (or x-y).
Side rant - I'm tired of unsupervised kids in the hot tubs.
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Ok, let's pretend this is not a pool issue. If you wanted to jump rope in the same room the people were doing yoga in, you wouldn't be allowed. You also couldn't bring free weights into the room zazzercise is going on. It's the same concept.
In the case of our Lumpy Ladies, it was held at a public pool and the participants paid extra for :
1. an instructor
2. private class.
It was similiar to a pool rental in other words. Joe Schmoe couldn't come in and swim laps during your kid's pool party.
Ok, let's pretend this is not a pool issue. If you wanted to jump rope in the same room the people were doing yoga in, you wouldn't be allowed. You also couldn't bring free weights into the room zazzercise is going on. It's the same concept.In the case of our Lumpy Ladies, it was held at a public pool and the participants paid extra for :
1. an instructor
2. private class.
It was similiar to a pool rental in other words. Joe Schmoe couldn't come in and swim laps during your kid's pool party.
I'm not sure it really is the same concept, but I think the rant really boils down to expectations.
When I signed up for my gym membership, I was pitched that it was a 24 hour facility and I could work out when I wanted. So, my expectation was set by the gym. Fortunately, my gym abides. When they have Masters Swim, for example, they cordon off pretty much the entire outdoor pool (the lap swim section, anyways), but the indoor pool is still available.
As an alternative, the gym could set the expectation, at the time of sign up, that its a 24 hour facility but certain areas are not available subject to the class times. Maybe that happens - I don't know. If that is the case, then the member knows what they were signing up for.
I suppose the rant is academic to me - but if I were in the OPs shoes, I'd be upset if I was told I have access to a 24 hour facility and then when I show up, I can't use it because someone else is paying more.
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Since most people's comments have centered on what is/is not posted by the gym, I thought I'd add what I've found going back the last couple of days. Nowhere is it posted that when a class is in the pool that it is meant for exclusive use. According to the store GM this is apparently the rule (and supposedly posted), but it's not posted on any entrance to the pool (from the locker room or otherwise). Also, class times (any classes, not just the pool) are not really posted per-se. There is a sheet at the desk at the front (incidentally, on the side you pass on your way out), but if you don't look at it, you'd never have a clue. And really, if there is no sign saying "you can't use the pool when classes are gong on" why would you look to see if there is going to be a class. Bottom line...poor communication. If they just posted the restriction and class times on the door from the locker room to the pool, I think I'd have no case.
I think what orangedog said is right. All they'd need to do is reserve 1 lane for swimmers and there'd be no issue. It's a matter of everyone working together and sharing. The lack of willingness to share was what set me off in the first place.
























So I felt the need to vent after my wonderful experience at the pool this afternoon. I was nearly done with my swim set (only a 300 yd cool-down remaining) when it appeared that a water aerobics class was about to take over the pool (24 hr fitness for those who are wondering). I offered to slide lanes to get out of their way when I was informed "sorry sweetie, you can't be in here when we are" by the instructor. Since her tone was one of sure moral superiority, I then told her I was going to finish my 300 yds and I'd be done in 5 minutes. She told me that I could swim around, through or under them if I wanted to but they weren't moving.
Wrong thing to say to a triathlete! :)
So I proceeded to continue in the lane I was in and weaved in and out of about 4 or 5 rather large old ladies. I actually got 150 yds in before I found myself being stalked down the pool wall by one of the guys from the font desk. When I stopped, I got the I-just-want-to-make-everyone-happy attitude and he couldn't give me much of reason why my reasonable compromise for 5 minutes in half a lane was too much. So much for keeping everyone happy.
My subsequent discussion with the store manager revealed an inane policy change that no one is allowed in the pool during water aerobics classes. Frankly, I can't see why they couldn't keep one of the three lanes open for swimmers. They'd never close down the treadmills or the free-weights for a class, but I guess they figure if they piss off a few swimmers so what.
If any of you are 24 hr fitness members out there, please complain to your gym and online (my next stop) about this so hopefully we can get this policy reversed.
OK, rant completed. Thanks for reading/listening.
Braden