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JerseyMan, May 9th...anyone else race?

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started by kkocan on May 10, 2009

Was anyone else there?
I did a 5:08, missed 3rd in my AG by 2 minutes and 2nd by 8 but.....

I also rode almost 59 miles due to a bad intersection with no marshalls right at the beginning where me and 2 others went off course and.....

Ran the the first 5 miles in 37 minutes, planned on picking up the pace after the 6 mile mark which I hit not at 44 or so minutes, as I should have, but a 57 minutes. Turns out I was not the only one as a guy ahead of me was complaining about the same thing around mile marker 8 (he figured by his pace he should have been past mile 10).

Since I drove 6 hours for this race I wasn't too happy!

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trimanley posted 27 weeks ago.

I was at the race yesterday as well, but didn't miss any of the turns on the bike. However, I talked with another guy while on the run and he noticed the same issue at mile 8, so it sounds like it may not have been right.

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kkocan posted 27 weeks ago.

I was looking at the map on the website today, the mile 6 marker should have been right on the main road on the way back just before you turned into the park. Mile 8 should have been on your way by the aid station on the road down to the marina (not on the way back like it was). Mile markers 10, 11 and so on appear to be right on the map where they should have been. From looking at it now it seems that maybe the overall distance of the course was right but markers 6, 7 8 and 9 might have been in the wrong spots. Problem is once I saw that I had apparently gone off course or got messed up I kind of checked out mentally. Didn't figure there was much point running myself into the ground if I had already been way off course. Not real happy though. How'd your race turn out?

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trimanley posted 27 weeks ago.

I really enjoyed the race. It was my first half, so I was just looking to finish strong. My swim and bike times were right on what I expected (37 min swim, 3 hr 10 min bike), but my run killed my overall time. The reason is that I injured my achilles tendon 3 weeks prior to the race, so I was happy just being able to finish the run.

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csaf31 posted 27 weeks ago.

I did the sprint. Finished second in male 35-39. Only disappointments were the amount of traffic at some intersections and no 2 mile marker on 5k.

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big 3 posted 27 weeks ago.

I can't believe the number of people that missed the turn off the road on the 5K run for the sprint. I believe the 2 and 3 place males may have lost their positions as a result. Well the 2nd instantly became 3rd place once he turned around and the other guy realized he missed it as well. When they got to the turn it looked like there were 3 others that had caught up to them.

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MillMan221 posted 27 weeks ago.

Gawd, the RD should be shot. That's horrible .....

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kkocan posted 27 weeks ago.

big 3 wrote:
I can't believe the number of people that missed the turn off the road on the 5K run for the sprint. I believe the 2 and 3 place males may have lost their positions as a result. Well the 2nd instantly became 3rd place once he turned around and the other guy realized he missed it as well. When they got to the turn it looked like there were 3 others that had caught up to them.


So it wasn't just the half that was messed up then! I sent an e-mail to the RD and got the response that the course was right but the mile markers 6,7,8 and 9 were all wrong.

Oh well....

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Ridethehills posted 27 weeks ago.

How could anybody miss the obvious signs? I was there and I saw them run right by signs to the right and arrows on the road.....

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Ridethehills posted 27 weeks ago.

Hmmm have any of you ever done a triathlon?

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kkocan posted 27 weeks ago.

Ridethehills wrote:
Hmmm have any of you ever done a triathlon?

Not sure you understood/got my post.

On the bike, there was a sign at the road right before you got out of the park with a big arrow pointing right, no one there to tell you to go straight, so 3 of us turned right.

On the run, I can't speak for the sprint, but there were people running all over on the half. As you climbed up out of the park on the main road, again at the road to the right where I turned on the bike, 2 runners about 50 yards in front of me kept going straight, I turned. Again, all it would have taken was a single person there pointing the way. Then on the run to have mile markers 6, 7, 8 and 9 all messed up completely ruined my race. After running just over 7 minute miles for the first 5 miles I thought I had made a mistake (although I couldn't think where) when it took me 20+ minutes to do mile 6. Once I got to the aid station by the marina there was a guy coming back complaining that he too was way off pace. Turns out the 8 mile marker was in the right spot, just facing the wrong way. It should have been facing you as you went out to the marina loop, not on the way back as it was. That guy looked as dejected as I felt as at the time he thought he had just reached 8 miles when in fact he was well over 9 into the course.

Also I noticed, and when I complained in transition to my friend about it, that there were at least two people I passed in transition that never passed me that all of a sudden were ahead of me on the run. Another racer a rack over stated he saw the same thing.

My coach warned me about this race, as he was leading the sprint last year and got sent off course.

So to answer your question, yes I've done a race before, just never one with so many issues as this. And after paying $$$ and driving 6 hours to miss an ag spot by 2 minutes when the screwups on course probably cost me well over 10 is frustrating.

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big 3 posted 27 weeks ago.

Did I forget to mention the group of us at the Bike In turn?
The bikers had to cross with the runners going out. There was also traffic. The Park ranger controlling the intersection was doing such a poor job, a woman spectator asked him to radio for an orange flag and she took control of the situation for the next half hour or more.

Many will argue that 95% of the people ran the course right, so it's not a problem. I personally wouldn't be happy with that result as a race director.
I put up a post awhile back arguing that there should be a standard. Nothing is more frustrating. It can be done well.

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Joe_H posted 27 weeks ago.

sorry for your trouble folks. it's a new race and apparently RD hopefully they can learn from your comments and get it cleared up by Sept. KKocan read your RR fantastic race really sucks you went off course but it even happens in big IM qualifer races. knew a pro who went off course when he was leading at Eagleman and got DQed and missed out on a big pay day. and i think heather gollnick once did 2 loops of the run at IMAz not 3 and got DQed. for pro's it is their responsibility to know the course (really hard to go when you're going balls out I'm sure) - but agree that sucks when it happens
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wow what do you know gollnicks 2005 race report where she got lost is here on trifuel
http://www.trifuel.com/triathlon/race-reports/lifes-little-detours-heath...