OK, I never train with cycling clubs. Mostly because they don't like triathletes too much. But I accidentially got into an "A" group, 100-mile ride yesterday. Holey-moley! I thought I was going to die.
Though I didn't completely enjoy it, I can see how it would be beneficial to becoming a stronger cyclist. Training in the draft may be a tough transition to the no-draft tri, but I still think overall it pushes your limits, making you stronger.
Gory details here: http://star.trifuel.net/2009/05/03/the-absolutely-insane-century-ride/

I've been on a couple of
I've been on a couple of group rides in CT with a great bunch of guys that meet up through a Tri Club but the rides are more road like. I have been peppering these grp rides into my long ride sessions on Saturdays and so far I have started to see some benefit out of riding with them and doing specific base work. But I agree, I think the grp rides can make one a better cyclist. Typically (at least among roadies) triathletes have a bad rap on their road/pack handling skills.
cheers
S.
Don't ride with a team or
Don't ride with a team or club, but I do head out to races as an unattached or jump in on groups if I see them out on the roads. Often times I wind up pulling for a majority of my time in the pack and then get dropped on a 12 second climb, but its definitely less boring of a workout than hammering solo.
I showed up to group rides
I showed up to group rides for 2 weeks before I moved, and it was a nice way to get a workout. Not sure about the whole "roadies don't like triathletes" thing. The ones I've talked to had no problem with people do more than just bike.
There's a few things I don't like, but they aren't that big of a deal. At least I'm out there getting a workout.
- Pointing to all the stuff in a road is a necessary evil, but I'd rather keep my hands on the bars.
- Riding with a spandex covered butt 3' in front of me gets old.
- Once at the end of my first pull, they took off up a hill and dropped me. My HR stayed at 190 while catching back up. Previously my highest HR on a bike was around 175. Probably good for me, but still rude.
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TryScott wrote: - Once at
[quote=TryScott]
- Once at the end of my first pull, they took off up a hill and dropped me. My HR stayed at 190 while catching back up. Previously my highest HR on a bike was around 175. Probably good for me, but still rude.[/quote]
It's not really rude, it's just the way these groups ride. I join in for a Wednesday group ride every other week or so (their hardest 30-40 miler). I don't mind pulling, but when I get dropped by the group, I remind myself that it's my third (or maybe fourth) 30+ mile ride in the last week (plus running and swimming) and they won't be putting in that level of effort again for another 7 days. My satisfaction comes when I pull (basically lead) on the big hills, then look back once I crest to find the group spread out over the trailing 90-100 yards. They usually catch up on the back side descent, but at least I've earned my keep.
I do, and I love it! The
I do, and I love it! The group rides I do tend to be a bit out of my league, but I know the loops now and how to short cut them once I'm dropped and get back on for the parts I can. A huge benefit in our family is that it is a group that pushes Mike on the bike, so I see those as the days for him to play with friends and I end up on my own. But the group is supportive and great! And it definitely makes me push outside my limits and try things I never would otherwise.
Sometimes they do dumb things at lights/stop signs, because it seems the pack makes them feel like they can (but it still bugs me).
Oh, and I think they hate people who ride on aerobars in a pack, or don't bother to learn the rules of riding in a group. They laugh at us for running after the rides, but definitely don't have a thing against triathletes.
It was interesting, and the
It was interesting, and the most difficult ride I've ever done for sure. I've ridden in smaller groups, so I knew a lot of roadie etiquette. But because the group was so big, I learned how to ride in a two-lane pace line, so that's good for future reference.
Had I known it was an "A" ride, I wouldn't have gone, because I don't ride like that! And had it been a hillier ride, I would have been left in the dust. But sometimes it's better just diving in, right? :) I'll keep groups like that in mind when I'm feeling masochistic...
I do a group ride at least
I do a group ride at least once a month. One of the rides I do is out of a Tri shop so there are mostly triathletes in the group. I have never experienced negative attitudes towards triathletes in any group. I would caution showing up with a Tri bike if the group is full of roadies. You will surely get dirty looks and they will purposely drop you.
I always try to hang with the 'A' group as long as I can. This gives me a great workout and pushes me to learn to go faster. If I get dropped I don't mind and I never take it personally.
I got into tri from a roadie
I got into tri from a roadie background and still ride exclusively with a road team (I keep the USCF license current; the USAT license is a scam). Cat IV is probably as high as I'll ever get, but my group ranges from Cat V to Cat II.
[quote=RunMDC]I would caution showing up with a Tri bike if the group is full of roadies. You will surely get dirty looks and they will purposely drop you.[/quote]
[quote=Star]Mostly because they don't like triathletes too much.[/quote]
Sad but true; not all two wheels (or their riders) are created equal. Hence why I ride a road bike (oh, and I've never been comfortable in an aero position). Not the fit or bike; it's me. But why is that (the attitude, that is)?
[quote=spomeroy]Typically (at least among roadies) triathletes have a bad rap on their road/pack handling skills.[/quote]
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[quote=kylie]Oh, and I think they hate people who ride on aerobars in a pack, or don't bother to learn the rules of riding in a group.[/quote]
Well said. If you show up at a 'shop ride' or club ride, that's awesome. The more the better. For the first few rides, hang off the back to get a feel for how the group rides (ie, where they attack; which lights you have to make to ensure you don't get dropped; where the best places are to jump the gap or take off); familiarize yourself with the route (ie, get a map if possible because there very well may not be re-groups); learn group riding etiquette (which is generally understood in roadie circles to include pointing out or otherwise subtly noting road hazards); and never, ever ride aero anywhere near anyone else.
[quote=TryScott]Once at the end of my first pull, they took off up a hill and dropped me. Probably good for me, but still rude.[/quote]
Not rude, it's how roadies ride: competitive all the time. If you don't like it, don't get dropped ;) City limit sprints, KOM 'points,' hot spots, no-attack zones, etc. You don't see stuff like that in tri group rides, which (locally, at least) all about re-groups at every right turn.