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Training Recovery and Heat Management

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started by DannoE on April 27, 2009

Alright, so I ran a 10K yesterday, and it was like a foretaste of Hell. Seriously, it had to be one of the worst, most painful races I've run since I was like 12. It was ugly. The course was hilly, and the sun was blazing full-force, maybe 80-85 degrees. That's easily the hotest it's been in CT since probably last August, so there was absolutely no chance that anybody would be even slightly acclimated. I mean, last week we were in jackets! Added to that, I didn't rest at all for the race; I put in a long swim Friday night and then biked 30 miles Saturday morning, the last half doing tempo work.

My question is this: What I can do to help myself a little more next time and maybe not have to suffer so much?

It wasn't that my time was so bad, but more that the effort that I had to put in to get there was extreme, leaving me short about 3 liters of water and so sore that today I feel like I'm hobbling. I know you can't rest for every race, but at the same time, I DO NOT want to feel like that again unless it's at the end of an "A" race, and I can take a full week off afterwards.

My friends says that the best thing I could have done would probably have been to have consumed a protein shake after my bike on Saturday to try to speed recovery. I can see that. It probably would've helped more than the chocolate chip pancakes I ate.

Anybody got any other ideas for speeding recovery or otherwise working through these kinds of issues? Any thoughts? Summer's coming, and we're all gonna be doing these little races; I'd like to be a little smarter next time, if I can be.

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brittda posted 29 weeks ago.

Well first off train like you would race if possible. In other words try and get out in the heat to practice if you can. Sometimes it just isn't possible, so perhaps bring the run inside on a treadmill where it is warmer or bundle up a bit when you run. Now that summer is coming you should have the opportunity outside soon though. I had a similiar issue last year with a June HIM. 60's here and then high 90's race day, you live you learn.

Not sure a protein shake is the answer. 4:1 carb /protein ratio is best immediately after a race/hard work out. You are probably sore because you are/were dehydrated as you mentioned, so hydrating pre and post race is important.

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prendergi posted 29 weeks ago.

+1 to treadmill. I know I went out and ran Sunday. I went out later than I should have. That was a difficult run and we had the same temps. here. I read somewhere that what you do two days before a race is important all so. Maybe pay a little more attention to how much you are taking in two days before the race.

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Star posted 29 weeks ago.

Did you replace electrolytes? If you drank a lot of water and were sweating it out, that electrolyte loss may one reason why you're feeling "sore" and "hobbling" today.

I'm in Florida and I still take Endurolytes in the winter (just not as many). You lose electrolytes through more than just sweat. It's already hot and it's going to get humid very soon here. We'll be sweating our butts off (literally!) so I take 2-3 per hour in the summer. I also usually take 1-2 tabs AFTER a long, hard workout as well, especially if I'm still feeling dehydrated.

As for acclimating in the future...? Come on down to The Sunshine State! That'll prepare you for the heat ANYWHERE you race :)

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sasquatch posted 29 weeks ago.

Not sure how the rest of your training week went, or how your training in general has been, so it's hard to judge. I've found that comditions generally impact my performance more than my recovery. My recovery normally is impacted by post-race nutrition, sleep, and how well trained I was for the event. Particularly the last one.

If you haven't spent the time doing tempo or LT runs, then going and and doing a 10K all out is going to wreck your body beacuse you're not ready for it. If you've been doing solid tempo and LT work, then you should feel worse than after a training session, but still able to get back into training after a day or so of rest/recovery.

Personally I couldn't imagine doing a 10K right now... I'd die cause I've just started doing speedwork after a grueling base phase...

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TryScott posted 29 weeks ago.

I agree with Star on Endurolytes being key during hot temps. Someone I train with takes 1-2 before our "easy" 6 mile runs. He could get by without on those runs, but I'm sure it doesn't hurt to get the body used to taking them.

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brittda posted 29 weeks ago.

TryScott wrote:
I agree with Star on Endurolytes being key during hot temps. Someone I train with takes 1-2 before our "easy" 6 mile runs. He could get by without on those runs, but I'm sure it doesn't hurt to get the body used to taking them.

You know...it never gets REALLY hot here so it's hard for me to experiment with Endurolytes. I have tried them in races (the ill fated HIM last year, and various marathons that are always in the heat) but I can never get them right and seem to do more harm than good. Last year I used them and was so off I didn't pee for 2 days after the race. Can they be used in just "temperate" weather with success ??? Seems like a waste to take them for most running here.

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DannoE posted 29 weeks ago.

Thanks guys.

The electrolytes were definitely an issue. Poor planning on my part because honestly, in a 45 minute race, I wasn't expecting to get that wiped out. I could have packed gatorade but figured water would be fine for a sub-1hr effort. But yeah, I think that was a serious error. That said, I didn't realize it would make me sore.

@ sasquatch - I do some tempo work, mostly in the pool and on my bike. Probably need to address that sooner than I'd otherwise planned in my running, though honestly, it's already hard to fit everything in. *sigh*

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hoss19 posted 29 weeks ago.

i think training in all types of conditions is the ideal route to take. you never know what you are going to get on race day - adverse conditions (wet, humidity, dry heat, etc.) or not. You have got to be ready.

Last summer i was competing in my first tri at the Nations in DC. It was 95 and humid. Real humid. And there were 20+ waves so some people werent starting until 9 am. In case you cannot see where this is going, the attrition rate was enourmous, particularly for those in the later waves and for all those people from the northeast and midwest (i talked to many on the shuttle busses after and at the post-race festivities) who were not acclimated to the humidity.

i think the lesson learned here is to prep yourself for the worst case scenario. For those of you who opt to "go inside" on a humid day to get your run on a treadmill - I think this is the wrong approach. Embrace the conditions and learn how to race in them, it will pay dividends down the road. Just my two cents...

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TonisTri posted 29 weeks ago.

Dan, I have no advice but just want to commiserate. My training has been great lately. Feel like I have been in the "zone." I had a 7 mile tempo run scheduled for today that I was really looking forward to. The temp here was 60 degrees last week but spiked to 94 today and I went out at 1:30pm, like an idiot! I was so miserable, my time was off by a full minute per mile. I know I will adjust in a few weeks, but today was awful and I just wanted to quit and go home! Sorry that had to happen to you during a race.

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DannoE posted 29 weeks ago.

TonisTri wrote:
Dan, I have no advice but just want to commiserate. My training has been great lately. Feel like I have been in the "zone." I had a 7 mile tempo run scheduled for today that I was really looking forward to. The temp here was 60 degrees last week but spiked to 94 today and I went out at 1:30pm, like an idiot! I was so miserable, my time was off by a full minute per mile. I know I will adjust in a few weeks, but today was awful and I just wanted to quit and go home! Sorry that had to happen to you during a race.

Thanks. But it's okay. I'd have been mad if it'd been an "A" race, but then, as folks have said, I'd have only myself to blame for that. Part of the purpose of signing up for these intermediate races is acclimating to racing conditions. These happened to be brutal and intimidating, but I also could have been a lot smarter about how I handled it.

For what it's worth, my plan for the rest of the week is to work swimming and weight-training. I'll stay off my legs until Saturday, when I'm gonna go out and try to get my stride back under control. I figure the first thing to do is to work to go longer. If I can get used to running in the 8-10 mile range, I'll be better served down the road.

DannoE
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