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Are we the Hummers of the Human Race?

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When we are on our bikes it seems like we can take the environmental "high ground" because we are burning no fossil fuels. We look at even the most efficient civic hybrid and scoff as it rips holes open in the ozone compared to our zero emission bicycles.

But where do we rate as people? I know for a fact that some of you Iron people are chowing down 3000-4000 calories a day just to maintain your weight. That makes us the SUV gas guzzlers of the human race. The USAT claims more that 100,000 members. If all of them are eating about enough food for three people... lets do the math... carry the 4... divide by 3.14... that's 200,000 people that we could feed (plus ourselves) if we all stop tri-ing.

So what do you think? Should we stop wasting all of this food with our silly training?

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Ironmom posted 29 weeks ago.

Well, only time I've approached 4,000 calories is in the final few weeks of IM training, definitely not something I do all the time. That being said, I don't think it's so much a question of how much you eat, but what you eat that determines the impact on your local environment. I am definitely interested in raising awareness of our food choices and impact thereof.

Myself, my smoothies come from:
- raw eggs, from my backyard chickens
- raw goat's milk, from my friend the goat farmer
- blueberries & strawberries, hand picked by myself and the kids last summer and frozen
- honey, bought at the farmer's market from local bees

The hamburger I ate at dinnertime came from a pasture 18 miles from here, we buy 1/4 cow every year, humanely raised, locally butchered and wrapped in paper. The salad came from our garden. The onion from the farmer's market, the pickles from a friend, canned last summer. I did buy the catsup, mayo, and mustard at the store, but just got a recipe for DIY mayonnaise that I might try out soon.

Not a whole lot of trucking food from across the nation in what we eat in our household. I'd like to think of myself as a bicycle, not a hummer.

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lala2021 posted 29 weeks ago.

Awesome Ironmom! You sound like my sis who lives in Bellingham,Wa except for the cow. We all need to be more like you and my sis!!!:)

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Anton posted 29 weeks ago.

Considering the average person eats 3 to 4k everyday and sits on the couch, eating 3 to 4k everyday and getting the milage I do out of it is such a deal...especially since I won't be such a burden on the health care syatem.
We eat local when we can and buy meats from a local butcher...unfortunately though we drink imported beer often.

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Triguy98 posted 29 weeks ago.

I look around and see a lot of couch warmers that eat more than I do. I saw a kid yesterday that couldnt have been more than 9, he was the size of three normal kids his age (who has was waddling around with.) That kid probably ate nearly as much as I do on a daily basis. I argue we are the sports cars of the human race. Those couch warmers that eat lots of food and go nowhere notable, THEY are the Hummers.

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TonisTri posted 29 weeks ago.

I don't come close to eating those kind of calories, but even if I did, I don't think it would have much impact on the rest of the world. I don't eat much processed food and I don't eat a ton of meat, two places where, if the developed nations cut back, the rest of the world would benefit. I was a strict vegetarian in my early 30s and during that time I learned that livestock are the "hummers" of the natural world. For the amount of food required to feed one cow, you could feed a dozen people. Like Ironmom, I also maintain an organic garden, brew my own Kombucha, and often make my own bread. I haven't tackled canning yet, but hope to give it a try one day.

Hamburger Helper, Lunchables, Phillsbury Cresent rolls... you won't find any of that stuff in my house. But products like those, which are in almost every grocery cart, are the culprits and cost so much to produce and dispose of (and ultimately cost us millions of healthcare dollars!). I would bet that triathletes, in general, eat more whole foods and spend less time driving cars. We may not be the "hybrids" of the human race, but I would say we qualify as "smart cars."

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Tribro posted 29 weeks ago.

Good topic. I think we are less the Hummers that tend to be the commute car to a coffee shop or office a few miles down the road, that by the way probably never see anything but pavement beneath their chassis (sp?). We are the fuel efficient cars that travel long and experience more on the fuel we burn. Maybe we burn more, or equal to the average american (I never quite hit 4K kcal except maybe big big days), but we use that fuel more efficiently. 1,000 calories above what I need to maintain balanced health and weight can run me through the mountains, a lake swim, or cycling for a few hours. Unfortunately many consume that much extra just to get through looking at a computer of tv screen 10 hours a day. I think we set the good example, and you can take the approach Ironmom takes by eating organic and local and making less of an impact on the environment.

Cool to think about this though. What extras we consume because our bodies crave it and making sure we don't abuse that and become indulgent.

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caeagle16 posted 29 weeks ago.

Where this will really come into play is as soon as 2, maybe 3 years from now, up to 10-15 yrs from now. It will impact the health care system of our country. Regardless of whatever type of reform is passed, the costs of an unhealthy lifestyle will be more of a burden on our nation and our world than consuming 4K calories of healthy food. The HC costs will be through the roof in treating childhood obesity/ diabetes; heart problems, arthritis, stroke, high BP, etc etc for all those boomers and the generation right behind them that don't work out.

There really will be no comparison.

Buy your Hummer now while you have the money, because in 10 years you're going to be paying for the health care of 70% of America, 10x worse than you think it is now.

Sorry to be so negative, but I work in HC and I see the problem everyday.

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chekmarks posted 29 weeks ago.

i think we are space shuttles. heck yeah we use a ridiculous amount of fuel, we get to FLY!!!

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vistring posted 29 weeks ago.

Don't forget about all the showers we take, unless you are like me, and are um to busy to shower sometimes... Of course I could be indoors burning electricity instead of outdoors cycling.

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burnman posted 29 weeks ago.

Gotta agree with Tribro here that we're the fuel efficient end of the spectrum. A hummer is selfish vanity. When was the last time a hummer used its performance to affect positive change? Didn't see any hummers or hummer drivers participating on behalf of ACS, Team in Training, or any like causes recently. Hummers don't seek out the healthiest or best environmental options. They utilize whatever petrol fuel source is readily available - and they do it often.

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scottbland247 posted 29 weeks ago.

I think hummers a gorgeous and I would have one today if I could afford it......on the human front, I think food is gorgeous....that's one of the reasons I excercise....so i can eat more

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pedalphile posted 29 weeks ago.

This discussion goes way beyond food. The average North American has a carbon footprint roughly 20 times that of someone living in India. And we have the nerve to scrutinize them for producing the Tata cars which will sell for a couple of thousand and improve the standard of living for many of India's residents. God forbid we should allow a developing nation to come even remotely close to the standard of living North Americans devour. What happens when they decide they all want electricity, heat, 2 cars, pools, carbon fiber bikes, fast food, cheap gas, bottled water, 4000 square foot home, 4000 calories a day...? Mother Earth goes belly up. They are now following in the carbon footsteps of the standard of life we are all guilty of creating and endorsing. At this point, I don't see caloric intake making much of a difference. We can probably slowly convince a nation to change it's eating habits. But trying to change it's sense of entitlement... Good luck.

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wannakona posted 29 weeks ago.

This topic is also related to the one i posted a long time ago about recycling. Lots of processed food that is not good for you comes in cheap, bad packaging too, which is hard to recycle. The way Ironmom eats is great, i bet there is less waste left from the packaging of the food she eats. I'm sure we are all trying to do the right thing.
I agree with the above, that we are more like fuel efficient cars, we eat a lot and burn a lot. Some people eat because they like to eat. We look at food as fuel, I do, before eating something i think if it will give me the needed vitamins, ingredients and fuel to get me through the workout. I don't go stuffing myself with junk food until i can't get off the couch.

BTW if you are interested i'm still trying to get my apartment complex to put in recycling bins...

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brittda posted 29 weeks ago.

I recently traveled to a midwest city. I was totally shocked to hear that the city did not offer recycling as an option. The people who I spoke with said they would only consider it if it "benefitted them". The restaurants I got take out from used the dreaded STYRAFOAM for to go cups of coke! You would never see that here. We recycle everything, in fact in Seattle fines are imposed if you don't. They just made it easier to recycle food--now it can go in the yardwaste cans and they pick up weekly. I honestly can't imagine not doing it as it is second nature to us. Our recycle bin totally fills where as our trash rarely comes close.

Soon the city will be charging .20 cents /plastic bag at the grocery-- a step in the right direction!

I would love to have chickens like Ironmom--but we travel quite a bit for recreation (races, vacations) and finding a "chicken sitter" is a bit more complicated than taking the dogs to the "spa" . Plus I think my beagles might eat them :)

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sasquatch posted 29 weeks ago.

This is a difficult thing to balance. While I heartily agree we are not the Hummer's, to me the question is not what are we, but what should we be? Are we a prius, sure. Is that good enough-NO. Why do we look at a vehicle that gets 40-45mpg and say wow. Honda Civic's from the 70's got 35mpg. In 30 years we have gained 5-10mpg? That's just sad.

Ironmom sets a standard very few of us can match (far better than a Prius), and those of us here on Trifuel as a group are far better caretakers of mother earth than most American's. She sets a standard we all should strive for, and I would guess that she herself is still looking for ways to do better. Thankfully there is a growing movement in the right direction in N.A. Hopefully it will continue.

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f1oored posted 29 weeks ago.

Is a prius that is driven 1000 miles a day better than a hummer that is only driven 4? Sure we get more bang for our buck than most people but just because we can doesn't mean we should. I don't care if your car gets 100mpg, if you just drive around for $hits and giggles it is still a waste. Lets face some facts here, many of us are exercising far more than what is required to maintain good health. Will we cost the health care system less in the long run? Sure but could we get the same health benefits with half the exercise and fewer calories... probably. And this idea that we are competing to better a cause is almost silly. There are better ways to help if you are really interested. Can you raise more money for cancer by training 10 hours a week or by spending 10 hours every week doing fundraisers?

We train because we love it. We race because we love it. Are there benefits? Yes, and lots of them but this is a sport we do for ourselves. I think I agree with chekmarks. We are space shuttles or sports cars, want to see how fast we can go? Sure I burn more than the average person but I'm high performance. I hope to god I'm not a smart car. If I'm a smart car I'm going to end it all right now. That has to be one of the most stupid vehicles on the road. No horse power, no room inside, no storage capacity, not safe, and only 33mpg city. If I'm going to drive a golf cart with doors it had better get better gas mileage than my civic.

This sport enlarges our carbon foot print. And I'm ok with that. I don't race for the environment, I don't race for humanity, I don't race to be green, and I don't race to decrease my carbon footprint. To be honest, I could give a rats a$$ about my carbon footprint. I race and train for MY health, for MY mental well-being, for MY own entertainment. I race for Me and so do the rest of you and there is nothing wrong with that.

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deepbluex posted 29 weeks ago.

health-positive things lead us to live longer and living longer means we have a bigger carbon footprint on the environment. So basically, earth would rather have us dead than alive. And that's fine by me but I'll dig my carbon heels in for now.

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zagfan posted 29 weeks ago.

You are forgetting the value of the impact our training has on others. Sure we train more than what is required of the human body and I'm just as guilty about eating enough food to feed a small village (I love Costco!).

But since I've started triathlons about a year ago:

-my dad has started running (first time in his life at the age of 52)
-I convinced a fried to join TNT for her first marathon
-my wife runs more now just so she doesn't feel lazy (she definitely is not) compared to my training
-I have a new guy at work who decided tri's were cool so he started training with us
-co-workers look to me for exercise advice since they know I'm one of those "crazy triathletes"
-my friend's brother was so impressed by my first triathlon that he decided that he would save his money to buy a bike and focus more on running so he could get into tris (he's 18 and a lifeguard)

So, yes I consume more than the average person and I do it primarily b/c it makes me happy, but I'm also not blind to the second hand effects that my training and dedication to triathlon has had on others.

I totally agree with caeagle16 about the health care costs we all pay for. If you look at the health problems in America we can trace the majority of them right back to unhealthy lifestyles. So, I'll use the extra fuel (food) that I have to put into my body to allow it to train at the volume I do if that means I have the opportunity to improve the health of others around me.

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wannakona posted 29 weeks ago.

triathletes and athletes think about earth and how to be green more

So bottom line is we have a great positive effect on other around us and in turn they start living healthier lifestyles and think and care about the earth more, hence take care of the earth better, hence we have a positive foot print on earth!

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