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started by Jcody on April 5, 2005

I have gone through many sets of goggles some good some bad but started thinking about trying one of the maks like the seal. Any comments on this? :cool:

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jimnelsoninwc posted 3 years ago.

When I started swiming a couple of years ago I never could get any goggles to fit very well. I switched to the Seal brand masks and they work very well for me. I like the visibility they seem to offer and seem to provide. Give one a try, you make switch too.

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jdmacl posted 3 years ago.

Try the AquaShere Seal XP (their low-profile mask). It's awesome!

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Triguy98 posted 3 years ago.

I, too, got a mask due to having problems getting googles that fit right. Got the TYR mask. Not too bad, doesnt foog too much, tho its not exactly low profile compared to some of the seal masks I have seen...but for $15 on sale at sports authority...

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ThommyM posted 3 years ago.

Jdmacl is correct.
The Seal XP mask is "tha bomb". Initially I was concerned about the possibility of looking like a "Fred"
(Cycling term for DORK), in a large "Bugged-Eyed" mask, with my pale complexion, while the other bronze-
skinned athletes donning their speedos and "Thorpe-like" swedish eye-socket goggles and shaved bodies
posed like Olympians in the waiste-deep "waiting area" before the start gun goes "pop". However, once you realize how comfortable they are, and how well you can see with them, then you will forget how stupid you look, as did I. And you will never be plagued again with goggle induced "raccoon eyes" after your swim.

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blueraider_mike posted 3 years ago.

I went thru 10 sets of goggles. They either leaked or hurt my face. The Aquaseal XP has changed my life. Talk about comfort!!! It has NEVER leaked, not once. I like the fact that my field of vision in not blocked, but yet is low profile enough.

Mike

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Kevo posted 3 years ago.

I am doing that as one of my "A" races this year.

"You can quit and they don't care, but you will always know."

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kylie posted 3 years ago.

I used a seal mask before, and now I use goggles. So I will comment on this from another point of view ;-)

My reason behind the switch was my swim coach. Although I liked the visibility of the mask, he said that they create a different drag on your face (I really don't know the details) and incourage incorrect positioning of your head when you swim as a result. I now use goggles, and although it took a few swims to get used to the change in vision, I no longer notice.

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blueraider_mike posted 3 years ago.

Kevo wrote:
I am doing that as one of my "A" races this year.

Kevo,

I want to do Memphis in May, but I running the Country Music Marathon on April 30th. I have not been on the bike yet this year. Just running and swimming. My first race is Mach Tenn, June 4th. I am focused on 3 races. 2 olympic (Chattanooga and Fall Creek Falls) and 1 1/2 IM in late September, used to be called the Atomic 1/2, now I think they have a different sponser.

Good Luck in Memphis, I hear its big race.

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blueraider_mike posted 3 years ago.

kyillee wrote:
I used a seal mask before, and now I use goggles. So I will comment on this from another point of view ;-)

My reason behind the switch was my swim coach. Although I liked the visibility of the mask, he said that they create a different drag on your face (I really don't know the details) and incourage incorrect positioning of your head when you swim as a result. I now use goggles, and although it took a few swims to get used to the change in vision, I no longer notice.

Give me a little more detail on this. I know when I first started using the mask instead of the goggles I could see my hands out in front because of the increased vision. This told me my head was NOT in line and was pointed slightly up. Now I feel like if I can't see my hands, my head in down and in a better position, make sense? I guess the thing for me is comfort, I will never be a great swimmer but I can be a good swimmer. I will trade a minute of time over the distance in place of the worry of leakage. My greatest fear, as a contact wearer, is major leakage and eye issues in the race.

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lctri posted 3 years ago.

I can still hear my father telling me on the golf course - its not HOW... its HOW MANY.

Basically, commenting on the goofy swings of some of the professionals - not quite textbook.

Now I know that I could use some work on my form and there is definitely some room for improvement - I just love to run out of the water in my mask ahead of all of my masters buddys in their skimpy swedish goggles.

Aaargh aaaargh aaaargh...... no just kidding - I can appreciate the low profile-"ness" of traditional goggles - but the "get kicked in the face" factor of the mask is unbeatable. Dont think I'll ever go back - and I noticed that they have a newer even lower profile mask out - neat!

Enjoy the mask!

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kylie posted 3 years ago.

blueraider_mike wrote:
Give me a little more detail on this. I know when I first started using the mask instead of the goggles I could see my hands out in front because of the increased vision. This told me my head was NOT in line and was pointed slightly up. Now I feel like if I can't see my hands, my head in down and in a better position, make sense? I guess the thing for me is comfort, I will never be a great swimmer but I can be a good swimmer. I will trade a minute of time over the distance in place of the worry of leakage. My greatest fear, as a contact wearer, is major leakage and eye issues in the race.

It is an issue with your head being a bit up. I believe in the swim thread on technique that is going right now someone said they heard "imagine you have an apple you are holding under your chin". I think what my coach's point was that with the seal mask, you get more water resistence against it, and that makes people look up a little to lessen the pressure on the top of the mask. So yeah, head up to much. My coach uses the term "lengthen the neck" for head positioning... like you are stretching taller with you neck, if that makes sense. My whole stroke is more comfortable now; however I don't know what part of that is better positioning from no mask and what part is just swimming improvements now that I have a coach helping me. I'm not a contact wearer, so I don't have that fear. As far as leakage though, I did my first Ironman recently (in goggles) and had no leaking at all.

I hear they also make goggles with prescriptions... not sure if it is a path you are interested in, but I was surprised when I heard so figured I'd share the info :-)

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DaveSans posted 3 years ago.

I just ordered the seal XP I am going to see if they work better for me. BecauseI have been having the same issue with goggles as everyone eles. Just can't seem to fine the right pair that fit and don't leak. I will put another post up to let everyone how they work.

Dave

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trianything posted 3 years ago.

Kevo wrote:
I am doing that as one of my "A" races this year.

Good Luck at Memphis in May! I live downtown and love watching the races that take place here. I will not be in shape to run it this year, but hopefully next year.

Back on topic, I think that I will finally try a mask. :cool:

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trithis04 posted 3 years ago.

I have to mention these Speedos that I got 2 years ago. These things are amazing; they have never fogged and don't leak. Only there is a couple problems, I don't know the model and have never seen them again. I bought them in Boise, ID while visiting and training w/ a military buddy. I just talked with him today and he's going to check the the shop to see if they still stock them. If I get another pair I'll be sure and post he model for everyone. Never had a pair like these!

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beads1985 posted 3 years ago.

When I first started I was using goggles and they were crap and I did not like them.
I went to a mask and I thought it was okay. At this time my swimming technique was not great.
I got some kicks in the mask which knocked them off because of my head position.

Once I started improving my technique I moved back to goggles. Like kyillee, I was also advised about drag. I went to a sporting goods store with a good selection of goggles. I tried on a bunch until I found a comfy pair.

As far as vision goes, If you are swimming correctly you only look forward every few strokes to sight in to keep you going the right direction.
I keep my head down(apple under the chin is a good analogy) for most of the time except for breathing and sighting so I haven't got my goggles kicked of yet.

Nothing to it, but to do it

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SBstockybitch posted 3 years ago.

Real swimmers would NEVER wear a MASK. You're swimming, not snorkeling. I wear swedish goggles.

However, during a really crowded race, getting kicked in the face with swedish goggles feels like you broke your skull.

Try TYR goggles with the suctions around the eyes.

Happy Training!

-SB

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catwood posted 3 years ago.

yeah... i'm a swede wearer too.... I just try not to get kicked in the face.

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beads1985 posted 3 years ago.

The getting kicked in the face does suck.

I try and keep my arms in front of me and be aware of other swimmers.
I also start closer to the edge and wait for a litle room to avoid the "Washing Machine" effect.
I am a good swimmer, not fantastic, so I do pass some people that rush in initially.
There is the bike and the run after so I try not to get beat up in the swim.

Nothing to it, but to do it