the benefits of having a coach
More of a rave than a rant...but glad you've found something that's working for you. I personally can't afford to go the coaching route right now, plus I'm still seeing pretty vast improvements with my self-coaching so far...however, if I start to stall in the future, or just want to take it to the next level (and come into some money)...I'll be on the coaching train.
It would definately help with my sad swim form. Good luck...we'll be expecting a full race report when you get back from Lubbock
Weak, man. Norman won Kona twice using the self-coaching method. Crowie won Clearwater in a similar fashion. Self coach all the way...
I say that because I'm much too cheap to pay for 300/month for assistance, am much to proud to admit that I probably don't know what I'm doing, and am annoyed that the USAT level III coach in the area decided I wasn't qualified for racing/training on his team (and thus get free coaching) even though I consistently out-performed all but 2 he currently has on a team of 15...
More of a rave than a rant...
Agreed. I was expecting you to come out and say you're coach is crap, and you'd be much better off without him. Thus solidifying my personal viewpoint. Oh, well, first race in 6 weeks, so I better not be second guessing my plan now.
I too am too cheap to fork over $300/month for a coach.
I do have the next best thing though. I use the IM training plan on this site and train with a guy who has been a competitive runner in college and with the Marines and has been racing Ironmans for a few years now. The plan is free and having a training partner with that much experience/knowledge is like having a coach, all for free.
I'm glad to hear the coach is working out for you and hopefully your season starts off on a positive note.
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Man, I wish I had a spare $300/month. Not that I'd use it for a coach right now, but it'd be nice to have :-)
Good job finding something that works for you!
IM program on this site is very good. Coach won't be there at mile 20 of the run at some point you have to push yourself. I'm jealous that I don't have the funds, but if I did I would spend it on more gear not a coach. zagfan is right on with his comment. I am glad that it works for you. Can't wait to see how you do.
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Ok, I have the funds and still wouldn't spend it on a coach when there is plenty of literature/information out "there" to use. Perhaps that makes me cheap too but I also have a years worth money saved to live incase hubby losses his job (I guess it's about priorities). Fifteen years ago it was a bit harder with out the internet but even so there was a library to use for free. If I were winning or pro yes perhaps. But I am not, nor will I and thats ok by me. I have seen my own improvement just by following my IM plan (from a book) to a "t".
I believe Gsal is young (17 no?) and it's easy to do when mom and or dad is footing the bill. Even if you are "paying for it", if you live at home and have assistance in the end they are footing the bill. Nothing wrong with that at all. I wish you luck in your season and look forward to hearing about your success.
Best of luck to you. I am glad you have seen improvement! It's always nice to have that when so much time and hard work goes into your training.
I am invloved in a training group that has a coach. Cost is $99/ month. It works out well for me.
I think it's important to note that it's possible to get coaching on a budget. A lot of tri clubs will have a "coach" that ranges from a USAT cert coach to a guy who read a few books to a guy who knows less than you do. Tri clubs are usually very affordable and give you some excellent resources (like a rudy project pro deal!). I'm working on getting our club to get a cervelo sponsor but I don't think it will happen any time soon.
glad the coach is working for you. enjoy the feedback.
I think it's important to note that it's possible to get coaching on a budget. A lot of tri clubs will have a "coach" that ranges from a USAT cert coach to a guy who read a few books to a guy who knows less than you do. Tri clubs are usually very affordable and give you some excellent resources (like a rudy project pro deal!). I'm working on getting our club to get a cervelo sponsor but I don't think it will happen any time soon.glad the coach is working for you. enjoy the feedback.
VERY good point, which I meant to mention.
+1 Tri clubs and running clubs are a great resource for information (and goodies)
I am a MOP'er and even if I had a coach I wouldn't be making triathlon or running my career.
$300 is a little much when you have big bill to pay like a mortgage. I am fortunate to have a little left over after paying bills to do some events and get some needed supplies every year.
I am also fortunate to have a great wife that supports my habit.
I don't think she would be so happy with me spending the $$ on a coach.
If I was 17 again and had some spare cash and had more innate ability, I might go for it.
Good luck Gsal!!
'Nothing to it, but to do it!'
BTW- Why do I need a coach when I have trifuel! ;-)
'Nothing to it, but to do it!'
The OP never said he pays $300/month for coaching...everyone's just pulling that number from the random one thrown out by xcrunner.
For most AGer's in our position, coaching isn't the most worthwhile investment even at a lower cost, but we aren't athletically gifted and 17 with aspirations of going pro (I'm pretty sure I remember seeing that). In that situation, paying for coaching makes a lot more sense. Not saying there aren't quality self-coached pros, but there are a lot more quality coached pros from what I've seen.
+1 to whatever works for you. No doubt coaching can really benefit some folks, especially if technique is a limiter (swimming) or workouts/organization. If you've got the money and feel it will help you achieve your goals, more power to you.
Myself, I could not bring myself to spend that kind of money, unless it was for a very specific goal (age group worlds or kona qualifying). As it is I'm a moderate FOP'r (top 5 age group finish in all 20 of my last races, excepting IM, top 5 women's overall in 6 of the 20, women's overall winner of one of them) and enjoy researching and putting together my own programs. If I was much younger and had potential for pro status, coaching might be a more enticing possibility, esp. if I didn't have kids and all of the associated expenses (sorry darling, you can't take your dance classes this month cuz mommy wants a triathlon coach..... nope!)
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Hey, I never stated what units that 300 was in. You are all assuming it's dollars. Could just as easily be Yen, Pesos, Euros, Thai Baht, whatever (yen or baht would be sweet though, and worth spending). But a fair number of coaches charge around 300 for their intermediate services. If you want one-on-one, daily contact, you're looking at closer to $1k/month for many (at least around here).
I just joined the thread with a rant of my own. Can coaching be worth it? Definitely. Can it help with motivation? Sure. But I wouldn't get a coach just because I were unmotivated. They can't force you to do the work, you have to want to get it done. My college track/xc coach certainly tried to get me to work harder, but I was the one making the decision on how fast my intervals would be. And they were never as fast as he would have liked. Then I quit.
Simple answer, if itworks for you, and your'e happy with it, keep doing what you're doing. Be it working with a coach, skipping work/workouts to watch The Tour live at 6am, or training yourself to Kona or world cup victories. All are good with me. But coming from a background in swimming since age 6 and running since 10, I'm just to proud to ask for someone else's help who doesn't have superior experience or credentials (and many coaches, especially those with a number of certifications, usually do not).
Gsal - god luck at the 2012 talent id race. Should be a lot of fun. I hope you're swim's good, because if you're in the pack coming out of the water, you'll have a lot of fun on the bike.
I have been working with a coach for almost 2 years now and it has made a world of difference for me. Just having a trained observer to see some flaws in your techniques is great. There are a ton of people who offer advice on how to do things but who do you know to trust. To me the advantage to a coach is that my training is adjusted to how I am performing during those sessions vs. a training program from a book or online, which I have used, which I personally had to adjust and don't know if I was doing it correctly. My coaching is $100/month and knowing I am spending that keeps me motivated to get better. I don't think I would push myself as much or give myself workouts and goals as challenging as he sets forth. I know I am not aiming to turn pro, especially at almost 36, or am I going to win races, but I am competitive and having someone help me be my best is the reason I have a coach.














Beware: this is a rant.
So i'm still relatively new to this sport (about a year and a half of racing so far), and i recently got a new coach (i'm about 1.5-2 months into training with him) and already i'm seeing amazing results. I researched many different coaches and even went through the typical debate about if a coach is even neccesary. I know that alot of people do not need coaches, but I just wanted to say that I am one of those people who are benefitting greatly from having this coach. Not only is he motivating me to stick to my training plan, he also provides a much more sensible training plan for me than i could solely provide for myself. Also, my technique in each of the three disciplines have gotten much much much better (especially in swimming, which has, until now, been a big weakness for me). Just wanted to share with everyone that my pre-season training is going really well right now. I am going to my first race on April 18th in Lubbock, Texas for the Twenty-12 Talent ID Invitational (draft-legal race), which I am very excited about. I know that some of the top individuals in my age group will be racing there, so i'm very excited to compete and push myself to my limits. That being said I would like to place within the top 5 in my age group haha.
I hope everyone's training has been going well, because race season is goin to be here before you know it!
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