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My First HIM: Training Question

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started by Workerant47 on March 15, 2009

Right now I'm in my third week of the program and I've got this nagging feeling that I should be doing more, make that, some core training. Quickly, I ride 3 times a week (one bike-run brick), swim twice a week, and run 2-3 times a week. I try to get in some core training on top of that but between, work, my commute into work (2.5 hours daily) and wanting some time with my wife and son I only have so much time. I was thinking of cutting one of my swims out and replacing it with a weekly heavy core and light weight training. I'm pretty decent swimmer and am comfortable with the distance so I'm wondering if this is a good idea or not.

Suggestions?

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tri-ac posted 35 weeks ago.

sounds like you and i have the same kind of schedule vs responsibility issues

just do a little each day, like...
before every shower, do 25 situps and 25 pushups
or...15mins of core after every cycling workout
that sort of thing
better to have a bunch of small stuff add up than to beat yourself up once a week IMHO

right now, i'm doing ab stuff on swim/run days and pushups on bike days, not a ton of reps yet, but i'm working on it slowly

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TriSooner posted 35 weeks ago.

Workerant47 wrote:
I was thinking of cutting one of my swims out and replacing it with a weekly heavy core and light weight training.

I know I'm the outlier on this 'core' and 'weight training' issue, but you are cutting out tri-specific training to work your abs or mirror muscles. I just don't get that. Weights are for off-season. I know I'm a broken record on this, but time spent in the weight room in season would be better spent swimming, biking, running.

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Anton posted 35 weeks ago.

+ 1 to Sooner...again.
Though, I do some strength training during the season...push ups, pullups, flip around a Kettlebell a bit and abs. But time in the weight room and pushing huge amounts of metal around..no way. Better off doing hill repeats on the bike.

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kylie posted 35 weeks ago.

Even for a swimmer I'd say 2 swims a week is already pretty minimal for keeping a good feeling for the water. I like the advice above about just throwing a bit of core in before/after the swim.

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wirebook posted 35 weeks ago.

I do core after my run, but here's my rough weekly schedule:

3xBike (#1: Trainer High intensity Z4 intervals 60-120mins, #2 trainer medium intensity 60 mins, #3 long ride 2-9 hrs)

3xRun (#1: Treadmill High intensity elevation Z4 intervals 75-90mins, #2 track workout 60-90 mins, #3 long run 18-20m)

3xswim (#1 recovery swim from long bike, 3K, #2 technique, intervals, etc 3-4K, #3 long swim 5-8K)

Now, mine is slightly geared towards a different level. But the same concept applies to my gf who's training under the same coach for a HIM. Just reduce the long rides/swims, but otherwise identical.

Remember the goal of the swim in the HIM-IM distance is to make it a non-event. So if you feel you can do that, then focus on the next most important piece - the bike. The goal of the bike is to get off the bike and still be able to run. As is often pounded into my head: "To make your run faster, you need to get stronger on the bike".

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NotAsFast posted 35 weeks ago.

You dont train for a Marathon by riding a bike, so why would you train for a Triathlon by cutting back on the least focused leg, but the most important leg of a triathlon. Anyone in this group will tell you, that they could make the distance with minimal swim training for 1.2 miles, but it will impact the rest of your race as you will be drained going into those legs as you are not accustomed to the swim as much.

Bottom line, swim, not lift or do core work. It has it's place, but not in the training segment you are in.

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Brianwake posted 35 weeks ago.

As as varsity swimmer, we always do some ab work before we get in the water. It might just be habit now, but I really like doing it. Also, it makes it a lot easier to get in the cold pool when you are already hot and a little sweaty. I wouldn't discount core work, and a little is important, but if all you can do is 50 situps a couple of days a week, it will still help.

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Ironmom posted 35 weeks ago.

I would not personally swim less than 2x a week. Even for a good swimmer, you just lose technique and muscle strength. +1 to everyone who said to fit in the core around your other times. I often do ab work/pushups after swimming.

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