Is FitDay wrong, or am I not eating enough???
The part of FitDay that I question is also the cals per serving/food. It's hard to enter the right thing there... so maybe you are eating more calories than it is saying you are?
I am not sure how accurate the cals burned thing is, but I've never completely trusted it. It has some pretty large boxes to put activities into (ie wide range of speeds on the bike that go to a single value), and speed doesn't always for me say how hard I'm working.
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3,046 div by 2.33hrs gives +/-1300cal/hr
does that sound right/typical for you for the effort expended?
fwiw
my Polar watch says i burn anywhere from 750-950 for an hour run looking at my last few 1hr runs
that's a little lower than what fitday is giving you
3,046 div by 2.33hrs gives +/-1300cal/hr
does that sound right/typical for you for the effort expended?fwiw
my Polar watch says i burn anywhere from 750-950 for an hour run looking at my last few 1hr runs
that's a little lower than what fitday is giving you
No, it's 3046 for the whole day, including those activities. Not 3046 just for the hours of exercise. Looking at the specifics, it gave me 211 calories burned for 1:20 of yoga (WTF? They certainly haven't met MY yoga instructor. I probably burn that in one of his 5-minute plank holds, LOL) and 612 calories burned for an hour of biking on my trainer (moderate). On the day before, it was 792 for 1:15 of swimming hard intervals, and 633 for an hour of karate.
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The part of FitDay that I question is also the cals per serving/food. It's hard to enter the right thing there... so maybe you are eating more calories than it is saying you are?
yes, that's a possibility. Although I think it often puts more calories in than I'm eating, due to the way I cook. If I cook chili with lowfat ground turkey and lots of beans and tomatoes, the only food I can enter it as is "chili con carne with beans", which probably has a lot more fat and calories if it's made in the way many folks make it. So I know it's a rough estimate for sure. I'll have to look more closely at what it's saying for some of the foods I'm using.
I am not sure how accurate the cals burned thing is, but I've never completely trusted it. It has some pretty large boxes to put activities into (ie wide range of speeds on the bike that go to a single value), and speed doesn't always for me say how hard I'm working.
yeah, I get a laugh out of their speed/effort equivalents. On biking, I have an option of 12 - 13 mph "moderate effort", 14 - 15 mph at a "fast, vigorous effort" or 19 mph "very fast, racing". Instead of choosing speeds, I just choose my effort level and ignore what it says about speed.
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I tend to err on the higher calorie side when entering what I eat to make sure i account for all of what I am eating (and maybe a little more sometimes), and to account for what I feel are overestimations of calorie burn often.
However, in your case 3046 for 2:20 of exercise + basal seems pretty close to accurate for a female from what I can tell.
I take the whole thing with a grain of salt and use it more as round numbers to make sure I'm eating enough/not too much instead of exact science to balance.
FWIW, I've been using it since November, have lost 13+ lbs so far with my normal day on there being about 300-700 cals in deficit (shooting for ~500/day)...that comes out to ~13lbs/12weeks, where my 3500cal/week deficit would be 1lb wieghtloss per week...so pretty close on my end. I do definately have bad days where I gain some, but they tend to be offset by days I do longer rides and can't even come close to making up the calories it calculates w/o my stomach exploding.
I've used Fitday pretty extensively for the past 3 years to help lose weight. I find that their food calorie consumed calculations are farily accurate, and when they're not I create a custom food. After a while you will be able to sense when calorie numbers are off, be able to eyeball calories in your own food, etc. I do think their "calories burned" numbers are over-estimated when it comes to basal rate (it has mine as 2400 but I believe I'm closer to 2100). For calories burned, I usually go through www.caloriesperhour.com and use their numbers. If you're running a 500 calorie deficit, it's okay that you don't feel very hungry. The reason 500 deficit is generally suggested is because you can consistently run that deficit without feeling super hungry or energy depleted. Using these two resources together, I have been successful at losing weight. (from 217 down to 180 and counting) so now I swear by them.
- AT
You can also just enter the raw foods/ingredients you use. I've done that before, but it takes a long time. Or make custom foods for the ones you make a lot.
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Hi Ironmom-
Yes I think that Fitday is not the most accurate for calculating calories. I have found that since it is free, the options are limited as to how to put food in. If you really want to get exactly accurate, I would recommend purchasing a subsciption to Calorie King Online. It costs $ (not that much) but is a MUCH better program. Also to track your cals I def recommend a Garmin heart rate monitor or something along those lines to know exactly how many cals you are burning for your activites, and then you can probably add 1500 cals a day just for you basal with no exercise.
Now given that, I think that you know your body best. I know that both you and me have expressed things about our past of eating disorder behavior and such (sorry hope that doesn't bother I brought that up!). Is it really THAT important to lose those last 8 pounds? It sounds like alot of work that you are doing.
I understand your want to lose the last 8 pounds and it being VERY hard. But here are the facts we know: you are exercising alot! I mean, an hour of swimming, plus an hour of power yoga in a day, karate for an hour and bike trainer (or some combo of that). I mean, seriously this is alot, so you should be eating alot. I would say at least 3000 calories a day. I know you said you came up 500 cals short for the day, so are you eating 2500 cals a day? I say the best thing is to listen to your body, eat healthy (as you already are) and exercise to feel good, not burn calories (I think you do this but just wanted to reiterate it). You are honesly a role model for me (I'm 28) and I could only hope to be as fit and awesome as you when I'm at the "Mom" age :) Don't forget to appreciate your body!! (sorry to ramble)
Also to track your cals I def recommend a Garmin heart rate monitor or something along those lines to know exactly how many cals you are burning for your activites, and then you can probably add 1500 cals a day just for you basal with no exercise.
Thanks for the recommends. I'll have to check out my heart rate monitor (ironman timex) and see if it does that. I hardly ever use it, LOL.
Now given that, I think that you know your body best. I know that both you and me have expressed things about our past of eating disorder behavior and such (sorry hope that doesn't bother I brought that up!).
No I don't mind you bringing it up, but thank you for being sensitive about it and asking. It's one reason in fact that I've never ever tracked what I ate or ever counted calories before! I don't want to get obsessive about it, and other than my pregnancies I've managed to keep my weight completely stable in the 20+ years since recovering from eating disorders. So in general I'm inclined to not want to rock that particular boat.
Is it really THAT important to lose those last 8 pounds? It sounds like alot of work that you are doing.
Well, for me it's really a triathlon thing. It's not really an appearance thing. My hubby things I look great with a few curves here and there, LOL. But really for me it comes down to running. I'm already a big boned and muscular person. At my lightest, I go about 157 lbs for 5'7". I've never not been a Clydesdale. As that weight goes over 160 and edging over 165, I can really feel it in my knees and ankles when I run, especially at the HIM distance training that I like to do best. And at almost 43, knees and ankles have started being a big priority for me, keeping them intact that is :-)
Also, I'm fairly competitive and for me the run is always my limiter. Adding 8 pounds adds time to the run, that's just the way it is. It doesn't really affect swimming or biking that much. If I'm going to stay competitive, I really don't want to be getting slower on the run, grrrrrr....
I understand your want to lose the last 8 pounds and it being VERY hard. But here are the facts we know: you are exercising alot! I mean, an hour of swimming, plus an hour of power yoga in a day, karate for an hour and bike trainer (or some combo of that). I mean, seriously this is alot, so you should be eating alot. I would say at least 3000 calories a day. I know you said you came up 500 cals short for the day, so are you eating 2500 cals a day?
Yeah, anywhere between 2400 and 2800 usually, it seems (this is all new to me so I've only been tracking it for a week). It's odd, but it seems that I pretty much consistently (at least according to Fit Day) eat about 500 less than it thinks I'm burning. Since I'm neither gaining nor losing weight, that's why I wondered if FitDay's calculations were just off.
I say the best thing is to listen to your body, eat healthy (as you already are) and exercise to feel good, not burn calories (I think you do this but just wanted to reiterate it).
Thanks. Yes, that's what I do in general anyways. I've always just exercised because I love all of those sports, not in order to look a certain way. It's just frustrating because whenever I've had thyroid issues in the past, I've been able to re-lose the weight pretty easily once my medicine/levels got straightened out. This time it just hasn't happened. Might be hitting closer to the mid-40's that does that, or maybe I'm not eating right. I'm just trying to figure it all out and get back to my regular (which is not small, but just right for me) shape for Tri season.
You are honesly a role model for me (I'm 28) and I could only hope to be as fit and awesome as you when I'm at the "Mom" age :) Don't forget to appreciate your body!! (sorry to ramble)
Thank you so much for saying that. I appreciate it! You look fabulous and I'm sure you will have a lifetime of being wonderfully fit. And I appreciate what you said here and will be thinking it all over. Thanks.
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You mention the thyroid medication. Have you had your TSH levels checked lately? If you're out of wack you may need a change in your medication.
You mention the thyroid medication. Have you had your TSH levels checked lately? If you're out of wack you may need a change in your medication.
yes, they're monitored by my doctor. I had a tumor removed along with half of my thyroid a few years back, so they keep a close eye on it.
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"yeah, I get a laugh out of their speed/effort equivalents. On biking, I have an option of 12 - 13 mph "moderate effort", 14 - 15 mph at a "fast, vigorous effort" or 19 mph "very fast, racing".
Wow....that's a pretty slow race.....what are they racing fully loaded touring bikes at fitday?
Also, I agree that you are probably pretty close on the burned and basal rate. I would however, as you mention, question the the accuracy of the food information. As I'm sure my peanut butter has a different calorie, fat, carb content than Mr X's favorite peanut butter. (unless he likes the same kind that is.)
Good luck. Keep us informed.
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I tried fitday too for the last 5lbs and found pretty much the same things. It was a big pain to enter my food accurately and it really didn't work for my activity very well. I have gone to daily weighing and just basically aiming for my 2000cals a day (my weight of 140 x 10 plus 200 for metabolic rate compensation, so 1600, which would be my inactive weight loss intake, plus a 400 cushion. If I burn 1500 a day, then the 400 cushion takes me to a deficit of around 500-700. On big training days I increase based on my burn). I use the calorie counts on my hrm and base my little "formula" on an exercise program my partner uses to lose weight from (can't believe I am admitting this) Turbo Jam....sigh...I did lose the 5lbs, but have gained it back since starting to increase my swimming time. Seems I carry an extra 5lbs in my shoulders and upper back when I swim four times a week. I gave up on it since my percentage is good and my performances are on the upswing. I hear ya though. I keep thinking if I was 130lbs I would be a rocket, but I keep reminding myself I need to keep the power output I have right now.
Don't know if any of this makes sense to anyone but me! Good luck Ironmom and keep updating on what works/doesn't work. I agree with cogirl3 - you are a role model for women everywhere and your honesty just ups that for me! Good luck and I can't wait for the day we end up a race together (for the race and the beer together after!)
ROFL. Darren (1 post, 0 days) I think you're not reading closely. I'm certainly not getting by on 500 calories a day! This seems like a thinly disguised spam to me, but I'm not clicking on your link to find out!
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I just started tracking activities and keeping a food diary on Fitday.com. Pretty consistently, I'm coming up about 500 calories short each day of what they say I'm burning. I don't feel like I'm undereating, I'm not hungry all day or anything. If I get hungry, I get a snack like yogurt with berries or something, I try to eat good whole foods, lots of fruits and veggies, protein, etc..
So what I'm wondering is for anyone who uses Fitday, how accurate do you think it is? Is it possible that I'm not eating enough, even if I don't feel hungry?
I'm 5'7", 164 right now, and I'm moderately active (on my feet) throughout a lot of the day. Plus I'm doing 1 - 3 hours a day of exercise on average. Yesterday I did an hour on the bike trainer and 1:20 of yoga, for instance. Fitday says I burned 3,046 calories. Does that seem like too many, or the right ballpark?? The day before I had 4,000 yards of swimming (intervals) and an hour of karate and it gave me 3700 calories burned.
Here's the thing: I only have half a thyroid gland (which controls metabolism) and am on medication for that, so I tend to really struggle with losing weight. I don't want to eat a lot more and then have to fight like hell to lose any weight I gain. OTOH, I know that not eating enough can also slow down your metabolism, so I wonder if I'm sabotaging myself if I'm not eating enough right now. I am currently trying to lose the last 8 or so pounds of the 14 I gained when I had a thyroid medication issue last fall and it's been really hard (read: impossible). Maybe I'm not eating enough??
Thoughts???
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