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One of major goals this upcoming season is to be injury free. I was wondering what all Trifuelers did that they thought was best thing they do to stay free of injury?

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brittda posted 42 weeks ago.

I get a weekly massage and take one day off as a rest day every week (when IM training). They happen to be the same day.

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Ironmom posted 42 weeks ago.

Swim as much as possible. Yoga when I can. Massage when I can afford it. Always one rest day per week.

if I could just quit the high-impact sports on the side, I'd probably have a lot fewer injuries...

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vistring posted 42 weeks ago.

How does a massage compare to they do in physical therapy, with trigger point therapy.

I have never had a sports massage, but plenty of manual physical therapy.

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lala2021 posted 42 weeks ago.

Stretch alot after tuff ride or run!Good running shoes cut in the right places for flexability! That's my thing this year is to stay injury free since i will be training for my first IM Ky! :)

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gfd posted 42 weeks ago.

1. It sounds cliche, but listen to your body. It I feel something is not right physically it is better to adjust or cancel the workout then to try and be a hero. It can be tough when you have a training partner who wants to gogogo all the time on runs. There is a much higher and long lasting benefit to running at a slower pace on the days that call for it than to always push the envelope. Many on this site who have been living this lifestyle for decades have reinforced this point with solid examples.

2. Eat and rehydrate immediately after workouts. It has made a huge difference to me over the last 4 years. I usually eat a PBJ sandwich and have some OJ with Whey protein after long workouts. It really seems to aid in recovery and brings my energy levels back up so that I can be a dad and husband the rest of the day instead of stuck on the couch.

3. For running it is the shoes as well. I can tell in my knees when my shoes have had it. More times than not it is before the 500 mile mark. It makes a big difference for me to have the feeling that the shoes are taking the brunt of the impact and not my body.

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TriSooner posted 42 weeks ago.

gfd wrote:
1. It sounds cliche, but listen to your body.

Stop, or better yet, don't start, when it hurts. Pretty simple. And There Is No Such Thing as Active Recovery. For example, a 'recovery' run is really just over-training and/or making up for what you didn't accomplish on your real training run. If you can go back out on a Monday, you didn't push hard enough on Sunday. Overtraining leads to injury and is a noob move.

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jsk85 posted 42 weeks ago.

gfd wrote:
1. It sounds cliche, but listen to your body. It I feel something is not right physically it is better to adjust or cancel the workout then to try and be a hero. It can be tough when you have a training partner who wants to gogogo all the time on runs. There is a much higher and long lasting benefit to running at a slower pace on the days that call for it than to always push the envelope. Many on this site who have been living this lifestyle for decades have reinforced this point with solid examples.

2. Eat and rehydrate immediately after workouts. It has made a huge difference to me over the last 4 years. I usually eat a PBJ sandwich and have some OJ with Whey protein after long workouts. It really seems to aid in recovery and brings my energy levels back up so that I can be a dad and husband the rest of the day instead of stuck on the couch.

3. For running it is the shoes as well. I can tell in my knees when my shoes have had it. More times than not it is before the 500 mile mark. It makes a big difference for me to have the feeling that the shoes are taking the brunt of the impact and not my body.

+1 to all of this, particularly just paying attention to how you feel. If you've been training at all for 6months or more, you should have a good idea of the difference between post-workout soreness and a possible looming injury.
The more difficult one to gauge is telling the difference between being worn out from a hard week's effort, or being fatigued and risking overtraining.

I'd say if in doubt...err on the side of caution. Trust your training as a whole, missing a few workouts here and there to ensure your body is handling it properly will not derail any training plan

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Anton posted 42 weeks ago.

Super +1 to gfd.
Listening to your body is prime. There are some days that I'm supposed to run this, or bike that and because of how I feel, I don't or I'll adjust accordingly...Schedule calls for a one hour run and I feel crappy..I'll start but in 10 minutes I don't feel right...I'll stop and enjoy a nice walk home.
On long runs I take walking breaks. Since I started doing that over 10 years ago my running related injuries have disappeared.
Spend more time in the small ring on the bike...pushing big gears all the time will ruin your knees.
I replace my running shoes often...like Garen. About every 250 miles my dogs start barking when it's time, and I listen to 'em!
Take one day off a week...at least. sometimes I take two if I have a lot of niggling aches and pains.
Folks will tell you..."just do active recovery!" Or "go for a swim...it's easy on the body." Everyone is different but for me I am much happier with that one day completely off. Gives the body AND mind a break.
Stay current on endurance related info. Stretching may be good, but new information points to a greater possibility of injury from static stretching...dynamic warm ups are much better (skipping, light jumping jacks, a walking warm up) and leads to fewer injuries.
I love massage and recommend it, but in the current climate I can't afford it.
Now...here is the recommendation that will raise a few hackles. Want to stay injury free? Avoid ball sports. I can't count the number of folks I've run into in the last 30+ years of running and biking who "Used to do that." But have bad knees now and can't run or even bike. When I ask them what happened...the story usually involves a ball.

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gfd posted 42 weeks ago.

[quote=Anton
Now...here is the recommendation that will raise a few hackles. Want to stay injury free? Avoid ball sports. I can't count the number of folks I've run into in the last 30+ years of running and biking who "Used to do that." But have bad knees now and can't run or even bike. When I ask them what happened...the story usually involves a ball.

I hate to do it but +1. I have had to say no to flag football and basketball games at school because my body just cannot take the lateral movement and pounding any longer. It is hard to watch. Everything comes with a cost and in the grand scheme this is an acceptable price to pay.

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go 'gate 2006 posted 42 weeks ago.

Anton wrote:
Want to stay injury free? Avoid ball sports.

it pains me to say this as well but...+1 as well. I've always loved soccer, so it's tough to stay away, but I used to tweak this and that whenever I played. However, I have found that since I've incorporated a plyometrics workout into my training, I've been able to play soccer injury-free. Getting your body used to quick changes of direction and landing in a very high impact manner can help avoid injuries.

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tri-ac posted 42 weeks ago.

For me, staying injury free is all about not getting untrained.

Consistency is key.

(I'm not talking about being obsessive here. I'm saying: don't take off a month here, a month there; keep the year full with relatively consistent exercise in as many different activities as it takes to keep from being bored or overtrained.)

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beads1985 posted 42 weeks ago.

gfd wrote:
1. It sounds cliche, but listen to your body. It I feel something is not right physically it is better to adjust or cancel the workout then to try and be a hero. It can be tough when you have a training partner who wants to gogogo all the time on runs. There is a much higher and long lasting benefit to running at a slower pace on the days that call for it than to always push the envelope. Many on this site who have been living this lifestyle for decades have reinforced this point with solid examples.

2. Eat and rehydrate immediately after workouts. It has made a huge difference to me over the last 4 years. I usually eat a PBJ sandwich and have some OJ with Whey protein after long workouts. It really seems to aid in recovery and brings my energy levels back up so that I can be a dad and husband the rest of the day instead of stuck on the couch.

3. For running it is the shoes as well. I can tell in my knees when my shoes have had it. More times than not it is before the 500 mile mark. It makes a big difference for me to have the feeling that the shoes are taking the brunt of the impact and not my body.

+1, and

4. drink plenty of water to flush your system
6. Eat a Healthy diet regularly.

'Nothing to it, but to do it!'

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beads1985 posted 42 weeks ago.

TriSooner wrote:
And There Is No Such Thing as Active Recovery. For example, a 'recovery' run is really just over-training and/or making up for what you didn't accomplish on your real training run. If you can go back out on a Monday, you didn't push hard enough on Sunday. Overtraining leads to injury and is a noob move.

Not all would agree about active recovery.

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JChapATX posted 42 weeks ago.

beads1985 wrote:
TriSooner wrote:
And There Is No Such Thing as Active Recovery. For example, a 'recovery' run is really just over-training and/or making up for what you didn't accomplish on your real training run. If you can go back out on a Monday, you didn't push hard enough on Sunday. Overtraining leads to injury and is a noob move.

Not all would agree about active recovery.

I second that...but it also depends on how one defines active recovery. Active recovery should be integrated into workouts and training sessions. If your Active Recovery is a light workout on a rest day, then it's not active recovery but just another training day.

Rest days are vital to staying healthy and are essential in maintaining your body's energy and ability to improve.

Massage and good nutrition are also useful tools, but I would emphasize appropriate rest.

Of course, having improper bike fit or running shoes can cause injuries regardless of how much you train or rest so I'd start with that analysis.

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thesonicson posted 42 weeks ago.

Top 5 ways to stay injury free for your triathlon season:
#5 - just sit on the couch!
#4 - don't back talk the wife!
#3 - have your kids pick up their toys!
#2 - don't put on knobby tires on your tri bike to tackle the snowy roads!
#1 - if you did put knobby tires on your tri bike to tackle the snowy roads, don't go aero!

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watrbg2 posted 42 weeks ago.

Anton wrote:
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Want to stay injury free? Avoid ball sports.

I am living proof... I played basketball in high school and college. I've had six knee surgeries, all bb related to some extent. Your knees take too much pounding cutting and jumping. All those small knee pains you had when you were 20 come back to haunt you when you're older!

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jnrice posted 42 weeks ago.

I'm starting to take Glucosimine and condroitent (sp? ouch) to help fight off my history of bad knees. I'm doing some more research before I start, but talking to one of the scientists at my lab who used to work for THE manufacturer of the raw products, she makes it sound convincing and safe. who knows... on the lighter side....

thesonicson wrote:
Top 5 ways to stay injury free for your triathlon season:
#5 - just sit on the couch!*
#4 - don't back talk the wife!*
#3 - have your kids pick up their toys!*
#2 - don't put on knobby tires on your tri bike to tackle the snowy roads!*
#1 - if you did put knobby tires on your tri bike to tackle the snowy roads, don't go aero!*


Amendments...
#5* - healthy as defined as 40 lbs over weight and a triple bypass
#4* - don't forget bosses, meat heads at the gym, girlfriend for the not married types, and crazy guy who tries to wash the windshield on your bike (no I don't have a windshield on my bike which is the point)
#3* - also pick up your own toys because stepping on a cassette or any number of tools in the dark is probably going to hurt
#2* - unless your tri bike is for xterra races, in which case the icy roads is just practice for adverse race conditions
#1* - or "lawn dart", meaning flying over your handle bars "lawn darting" yourself into the pavement/trail/bike lane you're riding on like a lawn dart.

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Ironmom posted 42 weeks ago.

Anton wrote:

Now...here is the recommendation that will raise a few hackles. Want to stay injury free? Avoid ball sports.

Sadly +1 to this as well. I dislocated my thumb a couple of weeks ago in volleyball, and I've given it up for the last month because my back is tweaked (not from a volleyball injury though, I might add). One of my good friends is nursing a broken foot from volleyball, and I heard yesterday that another one broke his hand (can you say we're a bit of a competitive bunch, LOL) Still, I can't stay away! Some day I might have to, but that day is not yet here.

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azmojo804 posted 42 weeks ago.

I keep strength training in my plans. I know that I don't have the best stride when running, and thus the muscles will develop different. I try to even everything out by doing free weights at the gym, and for legs, just 1 leg at a time, otherwise I would probably still compensate and strengthen my already stronger leg.
+1 to everything else listed.

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Buckupnorth posted 42 weeks ago.

Since I am now in the 40-44 AG, I really must stretch! A message, which can be a painful thing, does seem to help too. On top of the list is keeping up on the running shoes(w/orthotics). I feel nagging aches and pains when the shoes need replaced. Good luck this season.

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jonovision_man posted 42 weeks ago.

Ironmom wrote:
Anton wrote:

Now...here is the recommendation that will raise a few hackles. Want to stay injury free? Avoid ball sports.

Sadly +1 to this as well. I dislocated my thumb a couple of weeks ago in volleyball, and I've given it up for the last month because my back is tweaked (not from a volleyball injury though, I might add). One of my good friends is nursing a broken foot from volleyball, and I heard yesterday that another one broke his hand (can you say we're a bit of a competitive bunch, LOL) Still, I can't stay away! Some day I might have to, but that day is not yet here.

My friends who play soccer are similarly going down one by one, it's like a warzone. Every one of them has had a knee injury, some resulting in surgery.

They ask me if I want to play, I just politely say "it doesn't align with my training goals". :)

jono

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beads1985 posted 42 weeks ago.

I played soccer for year and tore my ACL and continued playing for a few year until it just hurt too much.

I decide to get into running and triathlon. My knee still bothers me a bit but I have gotten used to it and seems to hurt less now that I have several years of consistant mileage on it.

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IthinkIcan posted 42 weeks ago.

Ironmom wrote:

Sadly +1 to this as well. I dislocated my thumb a couple of weeks ago in volleyball,

Thumb injuries are the worst. We had a guy on our kickball team break his thumb and have to get pins put in it. Good thing it wasn't dodgeball.... that could have been fatal!

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chekmarks posted 42 weeks ago.

in the winter i run 30-40 miles and only bike 3 times on a trainer, none of which are long rides. once i get into my 'training' I only run 20-30 miles a week and up the biking a lot. this seems to be a really good balance for me.

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deepbluex posted 42 weeks ago.

I'll say the blasphemous word.

I jog.

That's right. I said it. I jog. I don't really "run". I don't pound the pavement. I don't run till my bones and joints hurt. I take it easy. It hurts my running performance yes, but I'm going into my 40s with impeccable knees and a lower back that have never given me any trouble, ever. I'm not going to mess with that record.
I bike and swim without holding back but running freaks me out. Too many friends have stories of achilles tendon, plantar fascitis, and all manner of painful conditions that they got from running.

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TonisTri posted 42 weeks ago.

go 'gate 2006 wrote:
Anton wrote:
Want to stay injury free? Avoid ball sports.

it pains me to say this as well but...+1 as well. I've always loved soccer, so it's tough to stay away, but I used to tweak this and that whenever I played. However, I have found that since I've incorporated a plyometrics workout into my training, I've been able to play soccer injury-free. Getting your body used to quick changes of direction and landing in a very high impact manner can help avoid injuries.

So what does everybody tell their kids? My 8 yr old son is just getting into ball sports. He is trying out flag football, soccer, and basketball. Do I steer him towards wrestling or something else to protect his knees for adulthood, or is ruining your knees in ball sports a rite of passage for young men?

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Ironmom posted 42 weeks ago.

TonisTri wrote:

So what does everybody tell their kids? My 8 yr old son is just getting into ball sports. He is trying out flag football, soccer, and basketball. Do I steer him towards wrestling or something else to protect his knees for adulthood, or is ruining your knees in ball sports a rite of passage for young men?

I dunno, my son is really into karate but has never been one for team sports. My daughter is on the swim team and loves volleyball but that's it. I've never had to be a soccer mom, so that one passed me by. I think though that you gotta do what you love. That's why knee surgeries get better every year, right?? I'll encourage my kids in whatever sports they want to do.

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gfd posted 42 weeks ago.

I will encourage my kids to play whatever sport they are interested in without worrying about their knees.

Personally, the problems with lateral movement occurred after years of running. Building up the muscle groups that propel you solely forward took away my ability to plant my foot and change direction quickly. This is a vital part of most ball sports and also the part where the knee is most vulnerable. The other problem is the ability of my knees and lower back to absorb the cushioning when jumping repeatedly, specifically in basketball. My last two years of competitive baseball where also my first two years of marathoning. Playing a baseball game in the afternoon after running a 20 miler in the morning was just not a good idea, but I did it anyway. The problem with combining endurance and baseball was the cool down periods in between sprints. I tightened up like crazy every inning.

Bottom line is much of this is attributable to wear and tear and also to age. There is a reason most pro ball-sport athletes retire in their early 30's. And they aren't competing in triathlons at the same time.

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Anton posted 42 weeks ago.

I think you should encourage kids in whatever THEY choose to do. It's what I did with my daughter. She danced, hated soccer, loved basketball and softball and would bike from time to time. I never said a discouraging thing about ball sports, even when we ended up in the Hospital with a torn this or that...She got the message on her own. Even when she was injured she wanted to play and to that I said "NO." She had to be 100% before I'd let her back out on the field....Man! She would get so pissed at me.
It's really about smart parenting...Case in point.
There is a student I know who at the age of 16, just had rotator cuff surgery on one of his shoulders...when they opened him up they found all kinds of torn stuff in there (He showed me the pics). He was a baseball pitcher. He pitched for school AND community league AND a fall league. When he started to have trouble he kept pitching. Even he said his parents should have told him he was doing too much, but they didn't. He can no longer pitch. Ever. He's thinking of becoming a catcher.
Kids think they are indestructable. They don't see that an injury today can have a negative effect on their later years. Parents have to keep a handle on that and say "NO" with an eye to the future, even though it might make things rough at home for a few days.

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jsk85 posted 42 weeks ago.

Let the kids play whatever they want...they need to be kids, AND they recover from small injuries much better anyways. It's one thing to monitor their activities and make sure they're being safe, but the last thing we need is parents limiting kids' activity choices, making the couch and videogames all that much more appealing.