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started by SerialKiller on January 9, 2009

so does a elliptical count as running or biking or neither or both?
becouse of rain and work i haven't been able to get in my bike or run yesterday or today, i did how ever get in a elliptical workout and a six mile walk.

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IthinkIcan posted 45 weeks ago.

No run because of rain? tsk tsk tsk....

I would measure the elliptical by either time or calories. A ballpark figure for running is that you would burn around 100 calories per mile. So if the ellipse you use calculates calories you could figure an ellipse/run equivalent. Or if you were working as hard as you would on a run, just count it by time. Maybe divide the time by your average run pace if you were exerting a similar amount of energy.

Next time, run in the rain. It'll make you go faster!

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SerialKiller posted 45 weeks ago.

i don't like getting wet

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lala2021 posted 45 weeks ago.

Do yu melt?:)

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J.Michael posted 45 weeks ago.

SerialKiller wrote:
i don't like getting wet

you realize the 1st leg of a tri is a swim?......

/I see a great many duathalon in your future.

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spacemonkey posted 45 weeks ago.

From all of us here in the Northwest--- go run in the rain !
For my very first sprint tri I spent a whole lot of wasted time trying to figure out how to not run or bike while wet- even had what I am sure is the worlds longest T1 time as I changed in the honey bucket- only to have the skies open up and pour the entire race! Just put on some layers and head outside- you never know what the weather will be like on race day and there is a bit of sick pride while people look at crazy you running in the rain.

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Merchant46 posted 45 weeks ago.

OK, this relates to a moment of self-awareness that led to my eventually getting involved in triathlons. About four years ago, I was on an elliptical machine at the gym I go to. I had done this many times before, but on this day, I happened to catch a side-view of myself in a nearby mirror. I LOOKED RIDICULOUS. When you're 6'6", you take these hurting-looking short, shuffling steps. I got off the god forsaken thing immediately. I bought a pair of running shoes the next day. I've since noticed that anyone over 6' looks awful on an elliptical. If you're reading this, you'll notice it too next time you go to the gym. So, if you're tall, my advice to you would be to just stay off it.

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TonisTri posted 45 weeks ago.

SerialKiller wrote:
i don't like getting wet

Running in the rain is wonderful. Downright theraputic. You'll love it once you try it. I just got back from a few days in Florida and had a long run in 80 degrees, hot and sticky. I would have loved a good down pour. Seriously, give it a try!

That which does not kill me makes me faster...

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J.Michael posted 45 weeks ago.

TonisTri wrote:
SerialKiller wrote:
i don't like getting wet

Running in the rain is wonderful. Downright theraputic. You'll love it once you try it. I just got back from a few days in Florida and had a long run in 80 degrees, hot and sticky. I would have loved a good down pour. Seriously, give it a try!

I can tell you're from up north......Your "hot & sticky run" is my "Dang, I need a longsleeve and some tights run.!"

Then again I do tend to run/bike a lot near noon mid summer. If it's not close to 100....I'm not happy.

/from Daytona

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SerialKiller posted 45 weeks ago.

maybe a better statement would be "i don't like to be damp" being soaked through is ok, like a rainstorm or swimming, being a little bit wet, a scatered sprinkles, it just ruins my mood. and if i'm not happy with my run or bike i'm not happy throughout the day. oh and eliptical is at home, thanks grandma (-in-law) hint: don't go back for seconds on pie at her house.

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SerialKiller posted 45 weeks ago.

ps i did get my run in today, flip flops, jeans, and a button up shirt, but a run nonetheless.

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Ironmom posted 45 weeks ago.

Oh. My. If I never ran in the rain, imagine how few training miles I'd get in.

Greetings from the Pacific NorthWET ;-)

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SerialKiller posted 45 weeks ago.

well ironmom your my hero so if you can do it then, no mere mortal can.

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jtrimom posted 45 weeks ago.

all my rain runs turn into speedwork, cuz I want them to be done!
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watrbg2 posted 45 weeks ago.

I'm doing the eliptical now as rehab from knee surgery. I'm using my heart rate to guide my training. It's very easy on the elliptical to get my hr into the right zones. I wouldn't count on the calorie counters on any gym machine being correct.

Learn to run and ride in the rain. What if it rains at you 're next tri? It's really not that bad.

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J.Michael posted 45 weeks ago.

One of my normal routes take me by a few gyms......

Once or twice a month, if I pass by I'll run right up to the window where there's a huge group of treadmills and ellipticals and I taunt them a little. I can help it, I just love watching the little hamsters run.

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advobwhite posted 44 weeks ago.

i'm from the south, and i love 70'ish degree runs. what's better is 70'ish degree runs in the rain. it feels so good to be cooled down. i was playing ultimate yesterday and it started pouring, needless to say i was very happy, not only does it feel good, but on the ulti field, rain and wind has the tendency to put everybody on a more even playing field. but get out and enjoy the rain. living in florida, you gotta get used to it.

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Mike1986 posted 43 weeks ago.

Merchant46 wrote:
OK, this relates to a moment of self-awareness that led to my eventually getting involved in triathlons. About four years ago, I was on an elliptical machine at the gym I go to. I had done this many times before, but on this day, I happened to catch a side-view of myself in a nearby mirror. I LOOKED RIDICULOUS. When you're 6'6", you take these hurting-looking short, shuffling steps. I got off the god forsaken thing immediately. I bought a pair of running shoes the next day. I've since noticed that anyone over 6' looks awful on an elliptical. If you're reading this, you'll notice it too next time you go to the gym. So, if you're tall, my advice to you would be to just stay off it.

Merchant I am so happy that someone else feels the same way about elliptical. I am also 6'6" and I had to rehab a torn acl on one of those and it was more painful than running. Maybe that is an idea for an invention. More importantly you get a different kind of a work out when your this tall. When you use one it fires different muscles than actual running and doesn't help your form and fitness as much. Yet another reason to get outside.

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brittda posted 43 weeks ago.

Ironmom wrote:
Oh. My. If I never ran in the rain, imagine how few training miles I'd get in.

Greetings from the Pacific NorthWET ;-)

You totally stole my statement!!!! Same for cycling.
I actually love running in rain, down pour or drizzle. I DON'T like it however at 35 degrees unless it's for a short one. I will do it, just don't like it much.

Oh and in answer to the original question. I think it depends. When I had a stress fracture one year and was hoping to recover in time to do a marathon I did use the elipitcal as my run. It IS different though on your body, no pounding like running. It can emulate the cardio part, but the actual stress on your body is different . I wouldn't use rain as my excuse though.

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deepbluex posted 43 weeks ago.

I don't know what happened to me. When I was a young child, I used to run and play tag with my friends during recess even if it was raining hard. We would come back to class dripping wet with jeans or corduroy pants soaked and sticky and nobody cared. We were like a pack of dogs that didn't have a care in the world. Puddles were opportunities, not obstacles.

Today I'm a grown man and if I feel water soak through my socks, I get annoyed. I avoid getting water on my shirt. I carry an umbrella when it rains. I avoid going outside. I don't run in the rain.

What happened to me? I've become more civilized? Or have I just become weak, soft, and old?

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beads1985 posted 43 weeks ago.

I don't mind being out in the rain when it is warmer but I don't like running when it is wet and cold.
If it is I do train inside.

I found this to answer your question
For the same level of perceived exertion (i.e., the work feels the same during both activities), running will burn more calories than the elliptical, although it's pretty close (about 100 calories per hour difference). Some of the difference is due to the pounding of running and the fact that you propel your body through the air so that both feet are off the ground simultaneously. This kind of movement takes lots of energy. Both the elliptical and running burn substantially more calories than the bike at the same level of perceived exertion (about 200-240 calories per hour more).

In a classic study comparing energy expenditure of exercise machines, the order of calories burned, from highest to lowest, is posted below. (The elliptical was not studied in this research, but it would fit between rowing and cross-country skiing. It should be noted that rowing, the elliptical, and cross-country skiing are all very close in calorie expenditure, with probably not more than 100-125 calories per hour difference among them.)

treadmill walking/running
stair stepping
rowing
cross-country skiing
biking (stationary)
Now, this is not to say that exercises that burn the fewest calories are all bad. To the contrary, you can get a great workout, and burn lots of calories, doing any of them. You'd be hard pressed to say that Lance Armstrong isn't fit. He's one of the fittest human beings alive, and he did it by biking. The point is that if you work hard enough on any of the exercise machines, and you work up a sweat, and you get your heart rate into your training zone, then your heart, lungs, and muscles aren't going to know the difference. Bottom line is that you'll get fit and healthy using any of the machines if you use them consistently and with sufficient intensity.

One final note: There is error in estimating energy expenditure on most, if not all, exercise machines. In some cases, it can be as high as 25 percent (the machine overestimates how many calories you burn). There are simply too many variables for the machine to give you an accurate number, and so you need to keep that in mind during weight-loss efforts if you are calculating how many calories to eat based on your energy expenditure.

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The Dude posted 42 weeks ago.

I can see not wanting to run in a thunderstorm, but what is the difference between running in a light rain and getting wet and running on a hot day and getting soaked with sweat? If anything, I would take the light rain because it's cooler. Also, in most places, if you run and bike long enough, sooner or later you will get caught in the rain. Once you have "survived" these episodes, you'll realize that being out in the rain isn't a big deal. Just be extra careful on the bike. :)

-Tod