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started by jsk85 on January 8, 2009

Is there a rule for how old your helmet is (ie. needs to be less that 3 years old)?

We (dad, sister, and myself) are getting our travel arrangements together for the 70.3s we are doing next year and my dad mentioned one of the race sites mentioning a rule stating your helmet must be under 3 years old. I've never heard of this, is it true? I glanced at the websites (Steelhead and Augusta) and couldn't find the same info, but didn't look too hard yet.

Do they even actually check AGers helmets anyways? I'm not sure I know the age of mine.

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TriSooner posted 45 weeks ago.

jsk85 wrote:
the race sites mentioning a rule stating your helmet must be under 3 years old.

I call Shenanigans on this one. I've never heard or seen a rule from the USAT, WTC, or ITU that dictates a specific age of the helmet. They are typically only concerned with ASTM, ANSI, Snell endorsement (which probably come with 99.9% of helmets sold in the U.S.). I have a Giro Pneumo that is 5+ years-old and I'm not trading in a $150+ helmet because some RD wants me to get a newer one.

My bet is that they have bike and helmet inspection too at (or managed on site by) a local bike shop who also is a sponsor of the race. What a coincidence! "Your helmet is too old, or your bike needs parts A, B, and C before we can approve it, and we can conveniently sell you what you need to get your bike to pass!" Total conflict of interest. There is an RD here in Dallas who requires bike, helmet inspection at an LBS who is a title sponsor of the race. So theoretically, the LBS, acting as an agent of the race, could deny approval of say, a helmet, and then coax you into buying a new one. Total scam.

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SerialKiller posted 45 weeks ago.

the only date i've heard of 1998. so i guess 10 yrs not three, but i could be wrong.

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gshuldes posted 45 weeks ago.

I looked at the rules on Steelhead's website:
http://www.steelheadtriathlon.com/?q=node/22

Under the "Transition Area" section they have the following:

"Current (no more than 3-years in age) ANSI, CPSC or SNELL approved helmets are required during the cycling portion of the event. You will be prohibited from participating if you don't have an approved helmet (no refunds). Helmets must be buckled in place during all aspects of the bike including transition."

I have never seen a race check this, but they could theoretically look at each helmet as you enter the site. Helmets normally have a label on the inside that shows their date of manufacture and the standards that they meet.

When to replace your helmet is a topic of its own ... many "experts" recommend replacing every 3 years because the plastics break down from UV exposure etc.

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Tamara posted 45 weeks ago.

I've actually been at a couple of races that check both bikes and helmets - TriColumbia is a major race organization here on the East Coast and they do this at all of their events that I've been to. Bikes need bar-end plugs, which is a safety issue. Same thing with helmets...I've never seen them check for age, but they are checking for any noticeable cracks or wear/tear which would indicate that it might not do its job in a crash.

It's not about making money for the LBS, it's about liability and safety for the RD and the participants. Both for the fast athletes who would have harder impacts if they crashed, and for newbies who might be showing up with ancient gear and are more likely to crash due to inexperience.

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Anton posted 45 weeks ago.

I was thinking...maybe Dad just wanted a new helmet!
Considering that plastic and foam and such degrade over time, especially with sun exposure...it makes sense. Someone should check into helmet degradation with some companies...I'd do it, but I'm going to Florida!

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TriSooner posted 45 weeks ago.

Tamara wrote:
It's not about making money for the LBS . . .
When the LBS sponsors the race, and the RD requires athletes to go the LBS to get their gear checked prior to the race, it is about making money for the sponsor. It is a quid pro quo: you sponsor my race ($$$), I'll require athletes to come to your store and you have discretion on whether to approve their bike, helmet and can sell them new stuff ($$$). If it wasn't a for-profit business relationship, the RD's staff - not affiliated with the LBS - would check the gear.

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gshuldes posted 45 weeks ago.

I agree that it is all about the $$$ ... that is how our society works. Profit is not a dirty word.

A LBS that has any business sense will see all these athletes coming in their store as an opportunity to gain long term customers. Give their gear a quick check out, make sure everything is good to go, maybe make a few quick adjustments, chat the athlete up a bit, etc. The LBS business is all about long term customers who come back for service and accessories.

Trying to scam people to make a quick buck would have the opposite effect ... people would leave their store with a bad taste in their mouth and never come back ... and they would tell all their friends about it as well.

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jwillia852 posted 45 weeks ago.

I think the rules are in place because of this guy...

http://www.sportpro.it/cichist/eroi/coppi1.jpg

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charlie6460 posted 45 weeks ago.

A little off topic.

I am signed up for Augusta 70.3 and noticed this rule also. I had planned on just getting a new helmet since I have been using the helmet I got with my mountain bike a 5 years ago. I really don’t want to spend the $$ or have the look of an aero helmet, but are there any road type helmets that would be a better and cheaper alternative?

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jnrice posted 45 weeks ago.

jwillia852 wrote:

I think the rules are in place because of this guy...

http://www.sportpro.it/cichist/eroi/coppi1.jpg

+1

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Ironmom posted 45 weeks ago.

gshuldes wrote:
A LBS that has any business sense will see all these athletes coming in their store as an opportunity to gain long term customers. Give their gear a quick check out, make sure everything is good to go, maybe make a few quick adjustments, chat the athlete up a bit, etc. The LBS business is all about long term customers who come back for service and accessories.

Trying to scam people to make a quick buck would have the opposite effect ... people would leave their store with a bad taste in their mouth and never come back ... and they would tell all their friends about it as well.

+1 to all of this. Years ago it was very very common to require a specific LBS to do a bike check for races. I'd say 75% of all triathlons I did from 1986 - 1992 had this as a requirement. I did dozens and dozens of races with this requirement and never had a LBS rip me off or suggest anything that didn't need to be done.

I don't know what the bike stores are like where you're at Sooner, but the ones around here are a triathlete's best friend. In the last decade or so, LBS's have really struggled with the advent of WalMart bicycles and the like. They've only survived by cultivating good relationships with local cyclists and getting business by word of mouth.

I think the 3 year helmet requirement is probably in place to prevent people from competing with horribly ancient helmets, which I have seen on occasion at races. It gives the RD a way to keep people from competing with unsafe gear. I sincerely doubt that they would turn down a competitor with a more or less modern helmet with no visible damage. But if some guy turns up with one of those ancient leather-strap varieties, they can keep him from competing with it for liability purposes. I actually saw a lady at a race last year with the same kind of helmet I bought when I bought my first ever bike helmet in the early 80's. It had to be 25 years old, I doubt it would do much good in a crash.

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PJT posted 45 weeks ago.

charlie6460 wrote:
A little off topic.

I am signed up for Augusta 70.3 and noticed this rule also. I had planned on just getting a new helmet since I have been using the helmet I got with my mountain bike a 5 years ago. I really don’t want to spend the $$ or have the look of an aero helmet, but are there any road type helmets that would be a better and cheaper alternative?

I'm not sure what difference, if any, there is between an MTB helmet with visor and a road helmet in terms of aerodynamics or ventilation. At the same price point, my guess would be not a whole lot.
If you're in the market for a new road helmet, I'm a big fan of the Giro Pneumo, which is Giro's 3rd (used to be 2nd) best road helmet. You can usually find them for well under $100 this time of year. Some models even have a removable visor, so you would have a new road + MTB helmet in one.

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Tamara posted 45 weeks ago.

Thanks, IronMom. Much more eloquent than when I said it!

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IthinkIcan posted 45 weeks ago.

Ironman AZ also has the 3 years old or newer rule.

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jsk85 posted 45 weeks ago.

Thanks for the input (and finding the rule for me). I'm not sure what I'll do I guess. I've been thinking of getting a new helmet anyways since mine is neither aero or well-vented (ie. $35 entry level), but didn't really want to spend money on that yet. I think I could get by with mine b/c it may be more than 3, but can't be much more. I forgot to check last night.

I'm guessing my dad will get another since his is 7-8 yrs old I'd guess. It doesn't look much different than mine, but I think he'll like the excuse to get new equipment.

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jonovision_man posted 45 weeks ago.

Ironmom wrote:
I don't know what the bike stores are like where you're at Sooner, but the ones around here are a triathlete's best friend. In the last decade or so, LBS's have really struggled with the advent of WalMart bicycles and the like. They've only survived by cultivating good relationships with local cyclists and getting business by word of mouth.

That's one way to survive. There are others... like this LBS owner in Toronto who stole over 3000 bikes!

jono