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For those of you who've done CDA, LP, Canada or WI - Is this accurate?!?

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started by jhudalla on October 16, 2008

So I was putzing around on the nasport site and I came across this link. My question is, why is everyone saying WI is so tuff when it looks like both Can, and LP resemble TDF mountain stages? For anyone who has done a few of these races, is this accurate?

http://www.nasports.com/compare/comparebike.php

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brittda posted 1 year ago.

I can only speak to IMC --have done it 2x. It has 2 pretty good climbs and some smaller rollers. But, what goes up, must go down. The last 12 miles are down hill or flat into T2.
It's all what you are used to and what you have trained for. I wouldn't want to do Florida because you don't get a break at all because it is all flat.

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watrbg2 posted 1 year ago.

I can only speak to IMWI - I've done it twice. While the hills aren't very big or long when compared to IMC or LP, there are just a lot of them and they come one after another. If you ride the hills too hard, you don't have a chance to recover in the flatter/downhill parts of the course and that will make for one, long, miserable marathon.

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Anton posted 1 year ago.

I can speak to IMLP and to IMWI sort of. I've done IMLP three times, trained there a lot and even ridden the course backwards. (Will be there again next year)I've ridden the WI course, but never done the race.
I ride in a hilly area with aspects of both events....long climbs, long descents or you can ride rollers all day.
I thought the WI course was interesting and fun, but that was stand alone...no swim or run. Now rollers can be hell if you have no breaks and I thought the WI course had it's easy moments.
I just didn't think the WI course was the pain that so many think it is.
IMLP is a hard course. Don't let anyone tell you it's not...especially when you head out of Wilmington the second time and are looking at a long up hill slog back to Placid. Usually with a head wind.
The Placid course is really only 100 miles. The descent past Cascade Lakes and down into Keane is almost 10K,(done twice) and you simply don't have to turn a crank once if you don't want...It's fast and dangerous if it's wet or if someone can't hold their line. The worst part of the course can be the Mamma Bear Hills going back to town...a steady climb with no real breaks and coming at over the last ten miles...ugh!
If you're a strong cyclist I think you'll find IMoo easy and Placid no too bad. If you are a weak cyclist you'll find Moo quite a pain and Placid...killer.

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xc800runner posted 1 year ago.

I would also look at the demographics at these races. The majority of people racing IM, especially nowadays in the US when you have to be on-site the year before, are from areas close to the race site. If you are from Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Indiana, Nebraska, Ohio, etc. you don't have mountains to train on. Thus the small hills you find in IMoo or IMLou will seem considerably worse to these folks than those from the Northeast training in mountains (or with at least some elevation profile) and racing IMLP. Being from Illinois, I've decided my IM choices are Florida or Western Austraila.

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TriSooner posted 1 year ago.

watrbg2 wrote:
While the hills aren't very big or long when compared to IMC or LP, there are just a lot of them and they come one after another. .

I've done Wisconsin, CDA and Germany. Moo is a meat grinder, nothing but rollers, with maybe a 200' climb as its highest. The hills are non-stop, over and over, and there are some technical turns at the bottom of many hills (you are cycling around parcelled-off farmland, so plenty of right-angle turns) so any downhill momentum is eaten up in the turns. You are either climbing or descending, but just a bit before you have to stand back up again. Total killer.