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Benefits to swim specific training/devices???

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started by WanaBSpeedy on September 10, 2008

I would like to hear some of your advice on swim specific training gear. Specifically pull bouys and kick boards. In the past when I was training for HIM distance races, all I concentrated on was distance and/or time. Whether in the pool or open water, all I swam was laps or steady state freestyle. I typically did two swims a week, no true drills or other strokes, and my average swim times for 1.2 miles were 36mins - 40mins. I just wanted to "FINISH" the swim leg.

Now my IM training plan for placid calls for a heavy amount of swimming including drills and pull bouys/kick boards. Would it be a beneficial investment to do these drills and should I buy the gear versus trying to find it at my local YMCA???

Thanks for your help everyone.

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CadenceGuy posted 1 year ago.

For myself I love fins and hand paddles. I get a really good feel for hand placement with the hand paddles and its great work for my back, shoulders and arms. It also works well for muscle memory and I can see if my hand is coming into the water too flat based on the amount of bubbles I get when my hand enters the water. I like the fins because I can do a good amount of leg drills that work everything from my hips, quads, glutes, name it. Pull Buoys have always been readily available at my local pool but I did invest in the other two but they are pretty inexpensive buys.

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WanaBSpeedy posted 1 year ago.

So fins rather than a kickboard? Would that be the better investment in terms of gear for leg drills in a pool?

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sheracr posted 1 year ago.

I used to use hand paddles but they started hurting my shoulder; while I did have a previous injury, shoulder strain can increase when using hand paddles due to the additional water you are pulling. So do use, but be cautious and pay attention, as always.

I have also found that fins tend to cramp my feet (even when sized correctly), so I stick with a kickboard. Depending on what your series of drills say, you should try them both.

Kickboards are available for about $10, pull buoys even less, Zoomers are $35, and Placid is what, about $550? On the plus side, the gear and drills kep you entertained during your swims, and that alone can be worth the investment!

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cayman posted 1 year ago.

Definately recommend pull buoys and drills. Pull buoys not only develop upper body strength, they also keep your legs up in the water, similar to the buoyancy of a wetsuit, which allows you to focus more on stroke and form. Fins have a similar effect and allow you to stay more horizontal on some of the tougher drill sets, the focus again being more on upper body strength and form, not a strong kick. I've never really used kick boards, a strong kick on long course swims is not really necessary, it will only zap your legs of strength that can be put to better use on the bike and run.

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laprokop posted 1 year ago.

Well as a swimmer in high school and college I may have a little different spin on this than some here in the Trifuel community.

First and foremost when it comes to swim training for tris a kickboard is going to be your most valued swim training tool. 2 reasons: First, it will give you a great chance to loosen up your legs from a hard workout the day or so before. Second, it will help build stabilizer muscles in your legs which will ultimately help in preventing injuries to your legs.

In my opinion pull buoys are worthless. There is nothing you cannot capture in the swim stroke with a pull buoy that you cannot capture without. Kick your feet if in a pool. If you feel like you ever need to work on your stroke without a pull buoy throw on a wetsuit and do an open water swim concentrating on dragging your feet and perfect "open water" technique.

Remember swimming in a pool versus open water are two entirely different stroke techniques. That is just my 2 cents.

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laprokop posted 1 year ago.

Well as a swimmer in high school and college I may have a little different spin on this than some here in the Trifuel community.

First and foremost when it comes to swim training for tris a kickboard is going to be your most valued swim training tool. 2 reasons: First, it will give you a great chance to loosen up your legs from a hard workout the day or so before. Second, it will help build stabilizer muscles in your legs which will ultimately help in preventing injuries to your legs.

In my opinion pull buoys are worthless. There is nothing you cannot capture in the swim stroke with a pull buoy that you cannot capture without. Kick your feet if in a pool. If you feel like you ever need to work on your stroke without a pull buoy throw on a wetsuit and do an open water swim concentrating on dragging your feet and perfect "open water" technique.

Remember swimming in a pool versus open water are two entirely different stroke techniques. That is just my 2 cents.

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fastdog5 posted 1 year ago.

I guess I don't see the benefit of kick training if I don't want/need a strong kick when I race. I look forward to my swim workouts as a chance to rest my legs a bit. I like pull buoys because they simulate the buoyancy of wearing a wetsuit and they also allow you to slow down your stroke & concentrate on form without having to worry about keeping your legs up. For those of us who do not come from a swimming background, I think there are benefits to this.

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TriSooner posted 1 year ago.

Pool "toys" work especially well for breaking up the monotonony of "down-and-back, stare at the black line. Repeat." Be mindful of shredding your shoulder with paddles, as sheracr said. And for once in our sport, buoys, paddles etc. are cheap and actually return a great bang-for-your-buck.

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WanaBSpeedy posted 1 year ago.

Thank for all the advice and comments on the issue...I did have shoulder dislocations/tears/surgery in the past so maybe i'll trash the idea of using hand paddles and just buy some "cheap" (in terms of tri gear) swim gear! Thanks again!

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catwood posted 1 year ago.

I'm not really a fan. I swam for 10 years through high school and I still never figured out how to go as fast as my teammates while kicking with a kickboard, but I could keep up just fine without one, and since you don't race with a kickboard, I didn't really see the point except as a social set. I'd swim faster with a pull buoy than without one because of the artificial buoyancy and because it let me get away with a flattish stroke.

I still do a lot of drills, but I rarely use any "toys". I think drills where its just you and the water are more valuable. Occasionally I'll do a set with fins - mostly just for fun. If you have a good feel for the water, the higher speeds that you reach with fins exaggerate inefficiencies in your stroke. I also do a fair amount of the other strokes to mix it up.