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started by jenny123 on September 7, 2008

Seems like the cost of coaching has taken a jump lately and I'm not sure I'm interested in spending over $250/month for it. All I need is someone to give me my training plan based on the races I want to do well in, a plan based on my own fitness level- and the cycling portion in watts. I'm usually a top 3 in my age group in a smaller race and top 10 in a larger race. I'm mostly low maintenance. Interaction with my coach in the past has been limited to about 2 emails a month and usually to correct a confusing part/error in the plan that was sent. In the early days I might have consumed more of her time than I do now. It seems like the pricing is based on a much more high maintence athlete than myself. I don't need someone else to motivate me or to make me accountable.

This is a hobby for me...spending this much (plus all the other stuff I buy) is beginning to seem excessive. That being said, I want to continue to improve and have even greater success. But is a coach needed for that?

Couple of questions? How many people use a coach? Do you pay $250+/mo for it? What does it do for you?

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kxux posted 1 year ago.

Use a coach - yep
Pay for it - yep
250+ - nope little less - actually under 200 per month.
Individualized coaching with weekly updated of the schedule, TrainingPeaks account and unlimited phone and e-mail contact.

I picked this coach (actually they are two - one for swimming and one for bike/run) based on recommendations and feedback from other athletes they coach plus the coach lives about 20 minutes from my house and goes to many local races I do. I've been with them for few weeks and already see the results in my swim and racing (my coach made very good changes to my race plan that saved me from having bad run day).

But if you want coach that puts together your plan for the season - hey that is not as expensive as you write. What is expensive in all coaching is the attention your coach pays to you on weekly basis. If all you need is a plan - get a plan for 200-300 bucks and then pay individual adjustments or make them yourself. But note that you get what you pay for - there will be no changes to your schedule in case of injury, illness or other life events. Actually the person putting together your plan will most likely not look at it at all during the rest of the year unless you ask them to. But that may work for you.

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triNick posted 1 year ago.

that seems really high. our tri club coach has a business on the side. he provides detailed email workouts and interaction via email for 1/2 the price.

do you need a coach? why do you need a coach? can you get by with a training plan? do you train with others?

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StephenPDennis posted 1 year ago.

I too only race for fun and for x-training and I decided to hold off on getting a coach for the same reason.

My logic is that at this point I could see a big performance gain from getting more practice in the pool and the bike as well as focusing on my form and transitions. I'm not yet interested in the 'fine tuning' a coach could provide, I'm more trying to get a hang of tri's in general and tightening up my game so to speak.

There are some great books out there on TRI training, of course magazines.

Also don't under-appreciate the value this here forum! Some of these athletes might not be 'coaches' by profession but they have forgotten more about the sport than I've learned so far! (And so far they've been more than willing to help me out with my beginners questions)

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StephenPDennis posted 1 year ago.

Also - forgot to add - keep your eyes open at your races. they're like master-classes just watching and learning from the local talents!

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jsk85 posted 1 year ago.

Yeah, no coaching here either...might look into it in the future, but I've made some huge gains in the past year just working on my own developed plans. There are some very good books to help with this. I also still see where I can improve. I think when I get to the point where I'm not sure where to go for time gains, that's when I'll look to consulting.

Although, a big +1 to the free consulting I get (and give where I can) around here

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jenny123 posted 1 year ago.

Just to clarify: I do want a monthly plan written just for me, and adjusted if need be. I'm just saying that in the two years I've worked with a coach I've never needed it to be adjusted. I'm a low maintenance client and don't want to pay fees based on expectations of high maintenance clients. While its a hobby, I am looking for great performance- I am not a "doing it just for fun" person. I want to win my age group (or at least top 3)

What I do value from the coaching is the specific work outs i.e. 8 hills at x hr or 2 20min reps at x% of FTP.

I think a training plan may or may not go in to that detail -- and is there really a secret recipe to that stuff that only a coach has? But that is why I would want a coach. I do train with other people on the weekends.

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tsilcyc posted 1 year ago.

I have a coach, she is worth her weight in gold and she doesn't charge that much. Look through the USAT coaches directory (http://www.usatcoachdirectory.com/searchbydiscipline.asp) and start calling them. Find someone local that you can click with and hire them. I'd shy away from pro athletes/coaches because I think you're going to find they charge more and you might get less attention because they are also focussed on their own goals.

What I get from my coach is very specific workouts that are related to my races. I just completed the most bizarre workout last week on a rather large hill that included:

"climb for 5min., descend and then climb to the top and descend + climb 2min., descend and climb another 2min., descend + climb 5min., descend 30sec. and climb 2min., descend 10sec. then climb to the top and descend for the last time"

This workout was specifically tailored to mimic the climbing at an upcoming race. It's personal workouts like that which make me realize she's putting some thought into my training rather than just sending me something out of a book.

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xc800runner posted 1 year ago.

I currently have 0 coaches, and 0 training plans. I have a vague idea of what I want to do for the week, like long/tempo run, ride, distance swim vs. intervals, and I try to get in 4-5 of each, for a total of 15-20 hrs, but aside from that, I pretty much go off how I feel. My rides are undoubtedly all tempo rides, with hr 80-90% regardless of day or distance. I took top 3 overall a couple times this year on this schedule, but would have been much faster had I set up a plan and stuck with it (or if I were capable of waking up in the morning to get in a trining session before work).

If you need basic structure and monthly review and updates, you should be able to find a coach willing to sit down for a couple hours and hash out all the details, and this shouldn't cost more than $100 or so. I feel that unless you're doing this for a living and have people to pay your coach for you, or you're determined to get to Kona, regardless of the expense, your coaching shouldn't cost more than you earn personally. My hourly rate certainly isn't $50.

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kylie posted 1 year ago.

I highly recommend either of the coaches I have worked with. Riding with power, check out MarkyV (www.markyv.com). That is who I work with, and have had great support and results. My plans are tailored not only to my goals and upcoming races but also around things in my schedule (business trips, wedding, etc). I definitely find it worthwhile -- especially since I got power.

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Raygir posted 1 year ago.

I use a coach and love it ,, he is local and also reasonable $400 for 3 months ,, gets cheaper the longer you sign up with him.. is available by phone email any time,, group workouts and individual plans ,, both coaches race and are very fast, but they keep it fun,, suggest shopping around and talking with a few diff coaches,, it has helped me as I tend to be lazy in the early mornings,, currently training for IMAZ at 14-18 hours a week.. http://www.breakaway-training.com/training.html

good luck have fun