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started by hwangnyc on September 3, 2008

So which Ironman distance race is considered the easiest?

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Joe_H posted 11 weeks ago.

None. even flat courses fatigue the same muscles and gets painful. pick one that gives you the best oppturnity to train for it and have it at it (be warned i'm not a coach, an ironman or all that smart)

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beads1985 posted 11 weeks ago.

None of them?

Everybody has their preference for a reason but 140.6 is still never 'easy' ;-)

Nothing to it, but to do it

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laprokop posted 11 weeks ago.

Whichever one plays to your strengths the best I would say...

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TriSooner posted 11 weeks ago.

The PC answer is "none because they are all the same distance." But I know what you mean: Would a flat (Florida) one be 'easier' than a hilly one (Canada)? If you live and train in a flat area, then sure. But if you are lucky enough to train at elevation, going to Florida and hammering 100% in the saddle may suck. Is an ocean swim with a wetsuit 'easier' than a no-wet suit lake swim? Maybe. But then the waves and current may kill you. There are so many variables. Similar to what has been said before, the 'easiest' one is on a course and with a climate that is most similar to that which you have trained.

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Anton posted 11 weeks ago.

Easy IM? Has little to do with the course I think and much to do with your fitness level and if you've wrapped your head around it.
My personal opinion...If you've trained well, they just aren't that bad...and I've done one of the hardest ones three times.

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ht001 posted 11 weeks ago.

I agree with Anton that if you've done the training then the actual event just puts it all together and you just go out there and get it done.

What makes any outing at this distance hard or harder than another, I think, are the various conditions that you might be racing in. For example's sake let's consider just one IM in particular: Wisconsin. The conditions in 2006 with the choppy water, the dismal rain, and sub 40 degree air temps probably added several facets of difficulty. That same event in 2004 (or was it '05 ?--- can't recall for sure now) which had record humidity and heat which caused lots (more than usual) of folks to have to bail out and/or receive medical attention during or after the race had different degrees of difficulty based on those conditions.

Add to these general conditions how you feel when you toe the line that day, how you manage your nutrition that day, and whether or not freak things like broken chains, little kids running across your path on the bike, getting your nose broken by a strong kicker in the swim, or slipping on a banana peel through an aid station and you realize that the level of difficulty at any given event is just a fundamental element of the variables inherent in racing.

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triNick posted 11 weeks ago.

Every race has it's own unique characteristic(s), but they all are 140.6 miles. Nothing is easy about going 140.6 miles, you still have 3 tasks to complete no matter what.

If you are considering choosing an IM race, don't pick the easy one, why would you do that, so you can say that you tackled the easiest IM race around and finished. Pick the one that excites you, the one that will challenge you, the one that you will be happy conquering... That's what IM racing is about, conquering the challenges of the day to cross the finish line no matter what and being happy as HELL that you did it!

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TriSooner posted 11 weeks ago.

I goggled the OP question and I like the comment about the hardest one is the one that takes the longest to fill. At least that is an objective answer.

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Tamara posted 11 weeks ago.

alternatively, since triathletes are masochists, the hardest one is the one that fills the most quickly!

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Ironmom posted 11 weeks ago.

I agree with what others have said, each race will be harder or easier for you personally based on many variables. For instance, I sweat very little and overheat easily. The hardest race for me would be one where it is hot and humid. However, I'm a strong swimmer, so a "hard race" for someone else with a killer ocean swim is not going to faze me. In deciding which race to do, I think it's a good idea to think about what you want your experience to be like, how you like to challenge yourself, what kind of terrain you're interested in, and just possibly what kind of vacation you'd like to build around it (my family certainly didn't complain about going to Florida's beaches in November from the rainy Pacific Northwest.)

In any case, 140.6 is always going to be a challenge, and most likely there will be challenges on that day which you have not foreseen, from crashes or technical difficulties to injuries, overheating, or nutrition and hydration issues. Even experienced Iron-distance athletes sometimes have a race that falls apart when all should be going well. I also agree that if you're trained up for it, 140.6 is difficult, but very doable. It should be an exclamation point on your paragraph of training. I think many people enter the race either drastically undertrained or overtrained and fatigued. Striking that balance is, IMHO, more difficult than the race itself. I found the Ironman distance to be quite enjoyable (and that's not just the masochist speaking!)

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zagfan posted 11 weeks ago.

The easiest Ironman race is the one you get to watch from the sideline. Once you toe the start line, all bets are off.

Trisooner made a great point in choosing a race. I was initially thinking that going to FL or AZ would be easier b/c the bike course was flat, and flat equals easy right? Well, the more I thought about it the more I fell into the "pick a race that fits you" mindset. I live in Colorado and am use to going up and down hills. Going to FL or even AZ and pounding out miles in the aero would 1.) probably kill me b/c I'm not use to it and worse 2.) bore the hell out of me b/c I'm use to elevation gains and enjoy the scenery that comes with hills. Living in Colorado also means I would be training in the cold come fall. And with both FL and AZ in NOV (I was planning on AZ b/c the ocean scares me) I could possible go from riding in snow storms to riding in the heat, not good prep. So after putting my IM quest through this analogy I realized that FL and AZ may not suit me the best right now. So I took a look at the other races that sounded "harder" (aren't they all hard?) and realized that IMC was probably the race that matched the conditions and terrain that I can train in. So here I am, one year away from racing IMC 2009 and I'm looking forward to the long climbs that I get to enjoy on the bike ride b/c I'll have a chance to punish myself in the Rocky Mountains during training, so I'll be ready.

And our families are from ID and WA, and who knew that Canada was just across the border, a short drive away from them :)

Just .02 cents from a guy who was asking the same question all summer.

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burnman posted 11 weeks ago.

Isn't the phrase "easy IM" an oxymoron? The distance was designed to be hard, regardless of venue. Besides, if you're looking for the easiest 140.6 you can find, then you may need to re-assess your triathlon goals - namely your target distance or training commitments. The obvious exceptions would be if you're (1) on the bubble and hoping to qualify for Kona, or (2) worried about finishing in 17hrs.

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Steve- posted 11 weeks ago.

hwangnyc wrote:
So which Ironman distance race is considered the easiest?

Any of them if you take them at 50% effort!

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PrinceofClydes posted 11 weeks ago.

How about we consider the course records of each IM?

The same pros race all of 'em, so maybe Ironman Germany is the easiest since..
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1997 - Luc Van Lierde broke the 8 hour mark (7:50:27). Oddly enough he did it in race conditions Scott Tinley called "the worst ever" with 30mph headwinds on the bike.

In 1996 - Luc Van Lierde set the Hawaii course record at 8:04:08

Using him as a measuring stick my vote goes to IM Germany.

I've heard many people say IM Lanzarote is the toughest.

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Joe_H posted 11 weeks ago.

is that the roth challenge (the old IM Germany) or the new IM Germany down in frankfurt (I Think)

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Joe_H posted 11 weeks ago.

is that the roth challenge (the old IM Germany) or the new IM Germany down in frankfurt (I Think)

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hwangnyc posted 11 weeks ago.

I understand an IM is not an easy task. I think we are all in agreement on that, but not all IM are the same. Sure the distance is the same but conditions always vary. If there are IM which are more difficult than others then there has to be one that's easier. Just curious to see if anyone had any insight on a good beginner IM or an advance IM for that matter.

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tsilcyc posted 11 weeks ago.

A friend was telling me about an indie 140.6 race in Canada that is only for beginners and is flat as a pancake. I don't know the name of it but could probably find out if you can't find it or someone here doesn't know about it.

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triNick posted 11 weeks ago.

this one always get mentioned as being tough, Ironman Lanzarote (wind, climbs, heat) for that matter i would add Ironman Malaysia for the heat as well.

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jonovision_man posted 11 weeks ago.

tsilcyc wrote:
A friend was telling me about an indie 140.6 race in Canada that is only for beginners and is flat as a pancake. I don't know the name of it but could probably find out if you can't find it or someone here doesn't know about it.

Not sure if it's the one your friend is talking about, but there's the Montreal Esprit tri. It's full Iron distance (and other distances).

The swim is in a rowing basin that's dead calm, the bike is on the completely flat and smooth F1 circuit, and the run goes around the rowing basin... completely flat.

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PrinceofClydes posted 11 weeks ago.

hwangnyc wrote:
I understand an IM is not an easy task. I think we are all in agreement on that, but not all IM are the same. Sure the distance is the same but conditions always vary. If there are IM which are more difficult than others then there has to be one that's easier. Just curious to see if anyone had any insight on a good beginner IM or an advance IM for that matter.

I think I just told you the answer to that.
But to spell it out for you: there are no "easy" or "beginner" IMs.

What makes one course more or less difficult are the following factors:
hills, heat, humidity and wind.
Hills don't go away; they are always there. Check out the list at ironmanlive.com for course descriptions.
Heat and humidity and wind vary from one year to the next and could arise anywhere.
However, Lanzarote and Kona are known for their winds. Arizona blew BBB off his bike last year. Florida is known for high humidity as is Lankawi.
IMOO had extreme heat last year, people were falling over.
Taupo in NZ was so cold last year they had sleet!
At IMC, since 2003 we have had, in turns, forest fire smoke reduce visibility to 2 miles in places, 100 degree temps, ferocious winds, cold & rain. Weather is hard to predict.
But, If anyone tells you that an Ironman Triathlon is easy, he's just blowing smoke up your a$$.

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ps. Joe, I believe it was Roth in 1997.

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