Does anyone else eat constantly?
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cogirl3 posted 12 weeks ago.
Well I eat about every 2-3 hours when I'm training alot in the spring/ summer, which works out to about 5-7 times per day depending on amount/ appetite, etc. I reduces some in fall/ winter but still eat 3 meals a day and 1-2 snacks. Maybe your body is so used to eating alot, that now even though you are not training as much, you are just so used to eating every hour that you can't stop the habit? I've heard it is a big problem with swimmers from high school or college who stop swimming and then gain a bunch of weight after being used to being able to eat whatever they want. I would really try to pay attention to your body and your hunger signals, and only eat if you are PHYSICALLY hungry, not just mentally hungry (bored, tired, stressed, etc) And as long as you are eating healthy foods, this should be pretty easy to do. Try to stick with low caloric snacks like fruits, veggies, low sugar granola bars, yogurt, etc. That way you can still eat every few hours like you're used to, but not get more calories than you need.
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dollfin04 posted 12 weeks ago.
I actually have trouble keeping weight on these days ( I realize people will prob hate me for complaining about this). I've been trying to put some muscle mass on, but seems like no matter what I eat I don't gain weight. I think my body fat got down to 12% at one point. I've been able to keep it around 15% (128ish) for a while now. Hopefully I can take a better look at my nutrition and strength training plan in the off season. I'm only training for sprints right now, can't imagine what would happen if I started training for a half or full.
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tsilcyc posted 12 weeks ago.
It sure does seem like I'm eating all the time. I definitely snack often. What I found though is despite eating/snacking all the time, I'm not taking in an enormous amount of calories which is why I guess I'm not huge. I eat a lot of fruits and veggies at home and try to keep the calories, during the snacking periods, to a reasonable amount.
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TriLancer posted 12 weeks ago.
Finally people who understand the eating all the time and the not gaining weight and even losing weight situation. Everyone else I tell this to wants to kill me.
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TryScott posted 12 weeks ago.
I'm confused about my eating also. 5'7" and about 175 puts me around borderline obese by most charts in a doctors office. The trainer at the gym used those squeeze things to put me at 7% body fat, and one of those fancy $200 scales at a running expo estimated 10%. I don't do resistance training, so it's not like I'm bulky with muscle, I just have calories rolling in all the time. Running would be so much nicer if I could drop 20-25 lbs. It's a matter of choice, and right now I love eating more than training/racing, so I'll live with it.
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KitKat posted 12 weeks ago.
I fall into the same field as ya'll....eating all the time. I eat every 2-3 hours as well, 6-10 times a day depending on how many workouts I do. Usually the few days after racing are the worst, I become an eating machine. A week after racing I taper my nutrition down....there is no reason to eat as much, it's just a formed habit and I don't need to accumulate extra body fat. Although I do have the occasion cheat, and when I mean cheat I mean a full bottle of wine and several large slices of cake :)...I justify it by storing the calories as "fuel" for my next long workout :)
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dollfin04 posted 12 weeks ago.
TryScott wrote:
I'm confused about my eating also. 5'7" and about 175 puts me around borderline obese by most charts in a doctors office. The trainer at the gym used those squeeze things to put me at 7% body fat, and one of those fancy $200 scales at a running expo estimated 10%. I don't do resistance training, so it's not like I'm bulky with muscle, I just have calories rolling in all the time. Running would be so much nicer if I could drop 20-25 lbs. It's a matter of choice, and right now I love eating more than training/racing, so I'll live with it.
You don't have to strength train to be bulky with muscle. 7-10% is pretty low though, 2-4% is essential fat for a guy (10-12 for a woman).
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KitKat posted 12 weeks ago.
TryScott wrote:
I don't do resistance training, so it's not like I'm bulky with muscle, I just have calories rolling in all the time. Running would be so much nicer if I could drop 20-25 lbs. It's a matter of choice, and right now I love eating more than training/racing, so I'll live with it.
How are you not bulky with muscle at 7-10% bf and having stats of 175 5'7"? It's either muscle or fat...one or the other. You can't be holding 20-25 lbs of food all the time.
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dollfin04 posted 12 weeks ago.
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TryScott wrote:I don't do resistance training, so it's not like I'm bulky with muscle, I just have calories rolling in all the time. Running would be so much nicer if I could drop 20-25 lbs. It's a matter of choice, and right now I love eating more than training/racing, so I'll live with it.How are you not bulky with muscle at 7-10% bf and having stats of 175 5'7"? It's either muscle or fat...one or the other. You can't be holding 20-25 lbs of food all the time.
Exactly my thoughts...I mean those tests are usually off by some...but not that much.
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KitKat posted 12 weeks ago.
dollfin04 wrote:
KitKat wrote:TryScott wrote:I don't do resistance training, so it's not like I'm bulky with muscle, I just have calories rolling in all the time. Running would be so much nicer if I could drop 20-25 lbs. It's a matter of choice, and right now I love eating more than training/racing, so I'll live with it.How are you not bulky with muscle at 7-10% bf and having stats of 175 5'7"? It's either muscle or fat...one or the other. You can't be holding 20-25 lbs of food all the time.
Exactly my thoughts...I mean those tests are usually off by some...but not that much.
Even with a big frame and high bone density 165 is the max healthy weight for that height......
;light bulb goes off; I bet he's packin' something mean below the belt! :D Watch out ladies!
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swimmer52 posted 12 weeks ago.
I also eat pretty constantly, and I know it's mostly out of habit. At work when I'm slightly hungry I don't focus as well, so to get back on track I'll grab a little snack and be on my way. I also was a swimmer through high school and college.
My biggest question for Burnman is about what you said:
"Furthermore, I know that if I absolutely needed to I could be back to 140 in no time at all."
How exactly do you do that???
For the first two months of my "offseason" when I don't have to worry about quality of workouts I"m going to focus on dropping some weight, 10 pounds would be fabulous. Some advice would be helpful.
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beads1985 posted 12 weeks ago.
I am 5' 9" and about 165-170. My body fat is about 7-9%.
I eat frequently(pretty close to hourly), and I am eating healthy.
Between 6-9 servings of fruits and veggies,
2-4 servings of non-fat or lowfat dairy,
A couple of servings of complex carbs,
A few servings of lean protein.
And about 128 ounces of water.
Nothing to it, but to do it
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KitKat posted 12 weeks ago.
swimmer52 wrote:
How exactly do you do that???For the first two months of my "offseason" when I don't have to worry about quality of workouts I"m going to focus on dropping some weight, 10 pounds would be fabulous. Some advice would be helpful.
10 lbs might be a bit much, you want to drop bf, right? I lost 10 lbs in over a year and half and dropped from a 11-12 pants size to a 1-3....so it's not really weight you want to think about, it's body composition.
Weight loss is a simple equalization. Eat small clean meals 5-8 times a day (depending on training) and stay within a 300-500 caloric deficit. You don't want to be too short on calories, it will throw your body in starvation mode and you won't cut at all, and too many will put on weight. Oh yes, and stay away from alcohol and simple sugars.
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swimmer52 posted 12 weeks ago.
Damn those simple sugars. I think it's the carbs that get me, when I get hungry I want satisfaction and let's face it, a granola bar looks better than green beans.
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Anton posted 12 weeks ago.
Eat all the time...yeah, pretty much. Like others, sometimes hourly. The engine needs fuel to run well.
I'm busy all day and then have workouts. Tried to cut back once and it was not good...sick, injured, depressed....Increased my intake and all was right with the world. Haven't cut back since and that was years ago.
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big 3 posted 12 weeks ago.
I've mentioned this free website before about this topic. As have others.
fitday.com
It takes a bit of time entering in labels and looking up how to enter in foods you haven't prepared yourself. After a week or two it becomes really simple.
I was really resistant to tracking my food for some reason. Weight Watchers and plans like that.
I liked this because there is no plan offered. It's just a tracking program.
You can keep it simple and just look at calories.
Or look at calories and Fat/Protein/Carbs (this is what I do)
Or get really into it and check out nearly all the nutrients ie Vitamin A, B C....
I found it incredibly helpful. I used it for 3 months and got close to where I hoped to be for race season. (down 20 pounds). After 3 months I kind of had the feel for how I was supposed to eat to maintain that weight.
Now that race season is almost over, I'm starting to track again to see if I can lose a few more.
Anyone that feels that they just can't figure out why they can't lose weight, this is a great place to start. Feel free to PM me if you would like to know my plan.
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dollfin04 posted 12 weeks ago.
After I had our son I weighed high 180s, obviously you are already exercising....so diet plays a major part. I lost weight by figuring out my bmr (basal metabolic rate) and sticking close to that as far as how many calories I ate.
Women: BMR= 655+ (4.35xweight in pounds)+(4.7Xage in years)
Men: BMR= 66+(6.23xweight in pounds)+(12.7 x height in inches)- (6.8Xage in years)
If you are training for a long course tri you prob want to eat more than that obviously. But basically don't eat any fewer calories than that. Otherwise your body goes into starvation mode. I dropped down to 145 by our son's 1st birthday and held there for a year. But once I started training for my first tri I lost another 20lbs easily. Now I'm holding at 128 and can't keep weight on....after my last two races I dropped down to 118. I got so used to the only eat when you are hungry thing, now its weird because even if I'm not hungry I still need to eat. Go figure! Sparkpeople is a great place to track what you eat.
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TryScott posted 12 weeks ago.
KitKat wrote:
dollfin04 wrote:KitKat wrote:TryScott wrote:I don't do resistance training, so it's not like I'm bulky with muscle, I just have calories rolling in all the time. Running would be so much nicer if I could drop 20-25 lbs. It's a matter of choice, and right now I love eating more than training/racing, so I'll live with it.How are you not bulky with muscle at 7-10% bf and having stats of 175 5'7"? It's either muscle or fat...one or the other. You can't be holding 20-25 lbs of food all the time.
Exactly my thoughts...I mean those tests are usually off by some...but not that much.
Even with a big frame and high bone density 165 is the max healthy weight for that height......
;light bulb goes off; I bet he's packin' something mean below the belt! :D Watch out ladies!
Darn, you figured it out. :0
My best real explanation is that I'm still dropping weight. With the type of training I'm doing, my guess is it's a combo of fat and muscle that's dropping, not just fat. Last year around June I was over 190, and the weight dropped a few pounds every month. It's probably dropping 1 pound every 2 months now. Patience is a virtue.
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KitKat posted 12 weeks ago.
dollfin04 wrote:
Women: BMR= 655+ (4.35xweight in pounds)+(4.7Xage in years)
Men: BMR= 66+(6.23xweight in pounds)+(12.7 x height in inches)- (6.8Xage in years)
That calculation has me at 1355, which would put me in starvation mode. I use RMR and added activity then subtract 200-400 kcal to cut.
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burnman posted 12 weeks ago.
swimmer52 wrote:
My biggest question for Burnman is about what you said:
"Furthermore, I know that if I absolutely needed to I could be back to 140 in no time at all."How exactly do you do that???
I'm not a licensed nutritionist, so you can consider this a disclaimer. I don't recommend the following for anyone that has borderline health or physical issues. For me, dropping 10 lbs in 2 weeks is a simple function of three elements: plain bread/pasta, watered down fruit juice, and intense full body workouts.
I will eat three meals (until I'm full) equally spaced apart, and do high-intensity workouts at 4 days on, 1 day off. Workouts should encompass EVERYTHING from the neck all the way down to the ankles (cardio plus strength). Keep the workout at the highest sustainable rate for 2-3 hours with no more than 7-10 minutes of rest throughout. Pushing your weaker, unused points will recruit a broader range of stabilizing muscles and give you a better overall conditioning experience. For an added dose of pleasure, layer on the clothes or get one of those funny-looking heat trapping space suits.
By the end of two weeks, you'll be battered, weak, and probably feel like complete garbage. But chances are that you'll have lost somewhere in the range of 8 to 12 lbs. From there, you can gradually transition into your training and nutrition at a lower starting weight. I say gradually because you probably won't feel like jumping straight into a 15-hour week.
It's not a remotely healthy way to go about dropping lbs, but I applied this technique over two full wrestling seasons while in high school (before they had rules about excessive weight loss and starvation). I started my freshman season at 115 lbs (admittedly scrawny) and was weighing in at the 91-pound weight class 3 weeks later. I continued to hold that weight for 4 months. To give you a sense of how undesireable this technique is, I regrettably went through it for a second season and absolutely refused to subject myself to a third.
You asked the question, and that's my answer - very hard, repetitive workouts and a calorie deficiency. Most nutrition experts will be appalled by such a method, so take it for what it's worth. If time is on your side, I definitely recommend a much slower, progressive approach with some coaching/consultation if you have the luxury.
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dollfin04 posted 12 weeks ago.
KitKat wrote:
dollfin04 wrote:Women: BMR= 655+ (4.35xweight in pounds)+(4.7Xage in years)
Men: BMR= 66+(6.23xweight in pounds)+(12.7 x height in inches)- (6.8Xage in years)That calculation has me at 1355, which would put me in starvation mode. I use RMR and added activity then subtract 200-400 kcal to cut.
Yeah that method isn't totally accurate because it doesn't take into account body fat and such. Doesn't work so much for me anymore. (But it did work for me in the beginning) And like I said it probably isn't a good formula for endurance athletes. No clue what my RMR is.
Apparently...my RMR is 1349 and my BMR is 1334...not too far off. But no way would I want to eat that few calories a day right now. I prob eat between 2-3k (maybe more) depending on what workout I have planned.
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dollfin04 posted 12 weeks ago.
burnman wrote:
swimmer52 wrote:My biggest question for Burnman is about what you said:
"Furthermore, I know that if I absolutely needed to I could be back to 140 in no time at all."How exactly do you do that???
I'm not a licensed nutritionist, so you can consider this a disclaimer. I don't recommend the following for anyone that has borderline health or physical issues. For me, dropping 10 lbs in 2 weeks is a simple function of three elements: plain bread/pasta, watered down fruit juice, and intense full body workouts.
I will eat three meals (until I'm full) equally spaced apart, and do high-intensity workouts at 4 days on, 1 day off. Workouts should encompass EVERYTHING from the neck all the way down to the ankles (cardio plus strength). Keep the workout at the highest sustainable rate for 2-3 hours with no more than 7-10 minutes of rest throughout. Pushing your weaker, unused points will recruit a broader range of stabilizing muscles and give you a better overall conditioning experience. For an added dose of pleasure, layer on the clothes or get one of those funny-looking heat trapping space suits.
By the end of two weeks, you'll be battered, weak, and probably feel like complete garbage. But chances are that you'll have lost somewhere in the range of 8 to 12 lbs. From there, you can gradually transition into your training and nutrition at a lower starting weight. I say gradually because you probably won't feel like jumping straight into a 15-hour week.
It's not a remotely healthy way to go about dropping lbs, but I applied this technique over two full wrestling seasons while in high school (before they had rules about excessive weight loss and starvation). I started my freshman season at 115 lbs (admittedly scrawny) and was weighing in at the 91-pound weight class 3 weeks later. I continued to hold that weight for 4 months. To give you a sense of how undesireable this technique is, I regrettably went through it for a second season and absolutely refused to subject myself to a third.
You asked the question, and that's my answer - very hard, repetitive workouts and a calorie deficiency. Most nutrition experts will be appalled by such a method, so take it for what it's worth. If time is on your side, I definitely recommend a much slower, progressive approach with some coaching/consultation if you have the luxury.
ummm....that doesn't sound fun....
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burnman posted 12 weeks ago.
For those having trouble keeping weight on, I have one word: Ensure. The Ensure Plus has 350 calories per 8 ounce serving, and it's well balanced in terms of fats/carbs/protein (though heavily processed). You can drink them down in a matter of seconds, and since it's only 8 ounces a shot it doesn't fill you up too much. Just expect to lose some weight around your wallet muscles because it's pricey stuff. The store brand equivalents (e.g. Target brand) are about 20-30% cheaper.
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dollfin04 posted 12 weeks ago.
burnman wrote:
For those having trouble keeping weight on, I have one word: Ensure. The Ensure Plus has 350 calories per 8 ounce serving, and it's well balanced in terms of fats/carbs/protein (though heavily processed). You can drink them down in a matter of seconds, and since it's only 8 ounces a shot it doesn't fill you up too much. Just expect to lose some weight around your wallet muscles because it's pricey stuff. The store brand equivalents (e.g. Target brand) are about 20-30% cheaper.
I think I'd rather shove my face with pizza! ;)
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KitKat posted 12 weeks ago.
dollfin04 wrote:
burnman wrote:For those having trouble keeping weight on, I have one word: Ensure. The Ensure Plus has 350 calories per 8 ounce serving, and it's well balanced in terms of fats/carbs/protein (though heavily processed). You can drink them down in a matter of seconds, and since it's only 8 ounces a shot it doesn't fill you up too much. Just expect to lose some weight around your wallet muscles because it's pricey stuff. The store brand equivalents (e.g. Target brand) are about 20-30% cheaper.I think I'd rather shove my face with pizza! ;)
+1 on that!
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burnman posted 12 weeks ago.
dollfin04 wrote:
I think I'd rather shove my face with pizza! ;)
Uh ... yeah. That goes without saying. But really, when was the last time you saw pizza make some 90 year old guy pitch his walker aside and start dancing like a 20 year old. That round goes to Ensure.
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dollfin04 posted 12 weeks ago.
burnman wrote:
dollfin04 wrote:I think I'd rather shove my face with pizza! ;)Uh ... yeah. That goes without saying. But really, when was the last time you saw pizza make some 90 year old guy pitch his walker aside and start dancing like a 20 year old. That round goes to Ensure.
Clearly I don't watch enough tv, cause I'm confused...hehe :) Put a peperoni and banana pepper pizza from Papa John's in front of me and this 26 year old will be dancing! :) Hmmmm and throw in some garlic sauce.
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chekmarks posted 11 weeks ago.
today i went for a tough, long bike. the whole way back i was just thinking about an apple, cold gatorade and a frozen pizza. well i finished all 950 calories of that frozen pizza and enjoyed the first day of college football. hope the rest of you find some edible satisfaction this weekend too, and best of luck to your favorite school.
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jonovision_man posted 11 weeks ago.
burnman wrote:
For those having trouble keeping weight on, I have one word: Ensure. The Ensure Plus has 350 calories per 8 ounce serving, and it's well balanced in terms of fats/carbs/protein (though heavily processed). You can drink them down in a matter of seconds, and since it's only 8 ounces a shot it doesn't fill you up too much. Just expect to lose some weight around your wallet muscles because it's pricey stuff. The store brand equivalents (e.g. Target brand) are about 20-30% cheaper.
Ensure is nasty stuff... corn syrop, yuck. I wouldn't use it unless I couldn't eat solids, ie. when I was in hospital recovering from appendix surgery!
Check out:
http://www.thedietchannel.com/scoopon.htm
There's so many "real" foods you can take in that have far better qualities and just as many calories... an avocado, a bagel, 2% milk, nuts, etc.
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groovyjen posted 11 weeks ago.
This is something I'm struggling with right now. I used to do Weight Watchers, but honestly I think their program is more geared to sedentary people or at least folks with more moderate exercise programs.
So I'm trying to find the balance between getting enough good food to fuel the tank and, on the other hand, eating more than my metabolism / exercise can handle.
We'll see.
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jtrimom posted 11 weeks ago.
oh, after my race today, on the hr long ride home, all I could think about was scarfing down meat pie w/ mashed potatoes and apricot chicken! My husband wanted to go out for lunch, I couldn't wait that long...I needed food RIGHT THEN! I sneaked in some zuchinni and squash stuff too, but the protein called to me.
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tsilcyc posted 11 weeks ago.
jtrimom wrote:
oh, after my race today, on the hr long ride home, all I could think about was scarfing down meat pie w/ mashed potatoes and apricot chicken! My husband wanted to go out for lunch, I couldn't wait that long...I needed food RIGHT THEN! I sneaked in some zuchinni and squash stuff too, but the protein called to me.
I find my cravings to be most bizarre sometimes. On the really hard days, I find that I crave meat... no... not meat... M E A T! Like I want a cow on a stick.
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KitKat posted 11 weeks ago.
tsilcyc wrote:
I find my cravings to be most bizarre sometimes. On the really hard days, I find that I crave meat... no... not meat... M E A T! Like I want a cow on a stick.
Still mooing? Ahahaha! I was so hungry after my LSD run yesterday I drove out an additional 20 minutes just to get the best BBQ in town. Ended up putting down 12 oz of bbq meat. Mmm, mmm, good!
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brittda posted 11 weeks ago.
groovyjen wrote:
This is something I'm struggling with right now. I used to do Weight Watchers, but honestly I think their program is more geared to sedentary people or at least folks with more moderate exercise programs.So I'm trying to find the balance between getting enough good food to fuel the tank and, on the other hand, eating more than my metabolism / exercise can handle.
We'll see.
Me too. I dropped 45 pounds about 6 years ago but am up about 10 now. Most of the gain has come during recovery from a few (ok 5) stress fractures where the weight has crept on when I could not run. I struggle with WW because it does not seem I can find the right balance with all the exercise. I guess since it IS coming off slowly I should be happy. Being almost 40 now does not seem to help either. I remember when dropping 10 pounds was as easy as drinking slimfast for a week :(
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cutiger95 posted 11 weeks ago.
I seem to be eating all the time but am still losing about 1/2 to 1 lb per week. So I guess I can't complain. I should be at race weight sometime around Christmas :-)
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bluebirdbiker posted 11 weeks ago.
If you are eating all the time, eat fruits and veggies:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/09/080903080858.htm
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Socket posted 11 weeks ago.
I eat all day too, mostly fruits and stuff. It's a good thing I buy the groceries 'cuz food doesn't last long in my house. At 6' and ~175 I'm still lean :-)
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csaf31 posted 10 weeks ago.
+1 on the eating all the time thing. it's worse on days I don't train. I found out if I do the smaller meals thing or in between meals I eat a piece of fruit and some almonds it helps me out. All I know is that between the training and eating, I have my body fat down to 14.7%, which is down from the 18% range I was 18 months ago before I started putting in more training. I still have trouble getting my weight down under 190, despite training 10-12 hours per week. That's what a desk job does to you. However, it's nice to be able to buy pants with a 32 inch waist instead of hunting through 10 stores for ones with a 33.
This is not me bragging, and I can only conclude that it's adversely affecting my performance. During my fall-to-spring training, I held steady at around 140-142 lbs (down from my starting weight of around 150). My eating volume generally complemented my training volume, and that seemed to balance very well for 9 months or so. Although my racing season is nearing an end, and my training regimen is going through fits and starts, I still find myself eating just as much, if not more, than during the peak of my training. I still train 3 or more times a week at a good intensity, but now I'm consistently weighing in at 151-152 lbs.
From the minute I wake up until I go to sleep, I'm eating (at the very least) a snack once every other hour. Often it's much more than that. I even wake up hungry in the middle of the night and eat. I'm not afraid of becoming fat or unhealthy because I still eat smart. Furthermore, I know that if I absolutely needed to I could be back to 140 in no time at all. Just wondering if anyone else goes through this - regardless of changes in size or weight. Didn't think much of it until my wife called me a pig last night. I hope she was referring to my eating ...