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started by olivestri on August 22, 2008

the first 2 miles are harder than the next 4.

watch out twenty-somethings, the body really does change. oh what i would do for the recovery time of a teenager.

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beads1985 posted 19 weeks ago.

I would like the recovery time but I wouldn't trade it for the wisdom of my years.
I am in better health and shape now at 41 than when I was in my late 20's.
I have more endurance and have accomplished more than when I was younger.

Nothing to it, but to do it

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fastdog5 posted 19 weeks ago.

I'd trade a LITTLE wisdom for fewer aches, pains, and random injuries.

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jhudalla posted 19 weeks ago.

I'm in my 20s... and I have aches too... but no wisdom apparently :P I really got the short end of the stick!

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Nutty posted 19 weeks ago.

I think the first 2 miles hurting most just means your an endurance athlete. Im 23 and mile 15 of a run feels a lot better to me than the first 2 miles do. My hands and feet are practically numb for the first couple until my blood gets pumping, not to speak of the muscles in my legs. So, youre not alone.

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jhudalla posted 19 weeks ago.

Agreed with Nutty, on my long days it takes me at least 3 miles to get warmed up and turning over with ease. Guess that means I need to be doing more speed work...

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olivestri posted 19 weeks ago.

i don't think i am misremembering... i don't recall needing to be warmed up - and probably having lots of endomorphins flowing - before being able to get into a smooth, relatively pain free flow.

now if i was doing 15 miles maybe i wouldn't care, but i am talking about 6 - which was yesterday and i'm still sore.

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olivestri posted 19 weeks ago.

i don't think i am misremembering... i don't recall needing to be warmed up - and probably having lots of endomorphins flowing - before being able to get into a smooth, relatively pain free flow.

now if i was doing 15 miles maybe i wouldn't care, but i am talking about 6 - which was yesterday and i'm still sore.

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jhudalla posted 19 weeks ago.

Are you drinking enough water during the day? Not to be a brand rag, but after almost every workout I'm putting down some 'Hammer - Recoverite' It works like a charm for some reason.

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diluzio123 posted 19 weeks ago.

Getting old doesn't bother me, it is the fact that it takes me 4 days to recover now vs the 1 day when I was in my 20's. I also had a better body. Hope the wife doesn't notice :)

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TriSooner posted 19 weeks ago.

I'm more experienced and focussed now but was much faster then. If I only knew then what I know now . . . I would have trained.

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jhudalla posted 19 weeks ago.

I'm banking on the opinion that I won't get good until I'm in my 30s. If thats because of the focus and experience. So be it. Besides, Come 35, I'll only have to run a 3:20 to qualify for boston! ONLY A 3:20!

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KitKat posted 19 weeks ago.

I can't wait to get older, early 30s are my race age prime!

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olivestri posted 19 weeks ago.

yeah - what i find interesting is how competitive the 40 to 49 age groups are. i think it is some combination of having enough money for a fancy bike and maybe some kind of empty nester thing.

although i doubt i'll ever be as fast as i once was, or be able to recover like a teenager, i think there is something to this idea that getting older is not worse - just different - leaving aside the wisdom thing.

training as a progressively older person is different than training as a young buck. it seems require more focus and pain, but there is definately some kind of deep reward, even if it is not the speed of a twentysomething.

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TryScott posted 19 weeks ago.

If I knew then what I know now, I would of been logging miles 5 times a week during the off-season, and long runs every weekend. I assumed that whatever running the coach had us do during practice a few times per week is all we needed.

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jhudalla posted 19 weeks ago.

There is definitely something to that. I was in a training group in Las Vegas that had 2 - peeps in the sixties with 14 IMs between 'em. They had laser-like focus. Perhaps getting a little older does bring the wisdom that unless you're willing to commit to something, you'll never reach your goals. Those two were powerhouses of consistency. They may not have been the fastest in the group, but they were at it every single day. I think that's the difference.

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qb ant posted 19 weeks ago.

olivestri wrote:
yeah - what i find interesting is how competitive the 40 to 49 age groups are. i think it is some combination of having enough money for a fancy bike and maybe some kind of empty nester thing.

although i doubt i'll ever be as fast as i once was, or be able to recover like a teenager, i think there is something to this idea that getting older is not worse - just different - leaving aside the wisdom thing.

training as a progressively older person is different than training as a young buck. it seems require more focus and pain, but there is definately some kind of deep reward, even if it is not the speed of a twentysomething.

I'm in that AG (49 in Oct - 50 next year OMG!!!!) Anyway it is very different now than when I was in my 20's. I don't remember doing any type of "training" back then just went out and played and played hard. No recovery necessary. Now it's more about fitness and aging (not to say you youngins aren't concerned about fitness), but you want to have as many good years ahead of you as you had behind you growing old gracefully and all that. So many people hit middle age and I guess give up and are just content and except the fact that they're getting older and it's okay to be sedentary now. There is nothing more rewarding (especially for a woman) then when someone is surprised by your age and ability -- not to mention the youthful good looks ; D

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swimmer52 posted 19 weeks ago.

I was just recently thinking back to my college swimming days. I was averaging 15 hours each week (and the recovery day wasn't easy by any means) and was always ready to go again when I got back in the pool. Now at the age of 28 (yikes!) a day of recovery isn't enough and I need more. I'm wondering how I can get more energy because some days after work I've got no life left in me.

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jhudalla posted 19 weeks ago.

To be honest I'm looking forward to my 40s. All of this school hub-bubb will be behind me and I can work and train and do never ending home 'projects'. Plus the competition will be thinning down. If I can keep my motivation up, I'll be a 40-something killer. 2020 here I come!

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jsk85 posted 19 weeks ago.

forward lookers...I don't get it.

I'm 23 and I certainly like to plan for the future and what-not, but I just don't understand people who say..."[insert life stage] sucks, I CAN'T WAIT to be [insert next stage]"

I just figure if you find ways to enjoy the now, you don't have to wait for the future...it just comes naturally. I'm sure when I'm 40 I'll enjoy what it brings, but I'll be 23 now and that's pretty awesome as well from my perspective

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trigirltina2 posted 19 weeks ago.

jsk85 wrote:
forward lookers...I don't get it.

I'm 23 and I certainly like to plan for the future and what-not, but I just don't understand people who say..."[insert life stage] sucks, I CAN'T WAIT to be [insert next stage]"

I just figure if you find ways to enjoy the now, you don't have to wait for the future...it just comes naturally. I'm sure when I'm 40 I'll enjoy what it brings, but I'll be 23 now and that's pretty awesome as well from my perspective

Live each day as if it were your last. No redos in life. We just get older and can either enjoy it or live a sad life. College was a blast, marriage is fun & work, but by far the best thing in my life is my kid.

By the way, my husband is racing today in the Best of The Desert.. (I think it starts at 1:00 pm West Coast time) and you can track the car at http://irctracking.com/2008/Vegas-Reno/ keep your fingers cross they get to the finish line... (Great things at 40 for him:0)

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Ironmom posted 19 weeks ago.

trigirltina2 wrote:

Live each day as if it were your last. No redos in life. We just get older and can either enjoy it or live a sad life. College was a blast, marriage is fun & work, but by far the best thing in my life is my kid.

+1 to all of this!!!!

Live for no regrets, every day is a blessing. And yeah, any day with my kids are better than standing on the podium at Kona would ever be.

All that being said, the forties are definitely tougher on the ol' recovery than the 20's and 30's ever were. I busted my body up so bad when I was younger, I have a feeling that aging gracefully is not in the cards. More like keeping a lid on the various aches and pains. And hell, the 40 - 49 year old women are faster than the 20 - 29's. No breaks there!!!!!

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trigirltina2 posted 19 weeks ago.

olivestri wrote:
yeah - what i find interesting is how competitive the 40 to 49 age groups are. i think it is some combination of having enough money for a fancy bike and maybe some kind of empty nester thing.

although i doubt i'll ever be as fast as i once was, or be able to recover like a teenager, i think there is something to this idea that getting older is not worse - just different - leaving aside the wisdom thing.

training as a progressively older person is different than training as a young buck. it seems require more focus and pain, but there is definately some kind of deep reward, even if it is not the speed of a twentysomething.

40 is next year for me.. The women in my group are VERY competitive. We usually have the early wave start and are racks are the fullest now 35-39. Sometimes it is frustrating, becuase I don't feel like I'm 39. (if that makes sense). I think the deep reward is staying active. Totally agree with the pain and not the speed of the twentysomething. Maybe when I'm in my 60's I'll be like Sister Mary.

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jhudalla posted 19 weeks ago.

jsk85 wrote:
forward lookers...I don't get it.

I'm 23 and I certainly like to plan for the future and what-not, but I just don't understand people who say..."[insert life stage] sucks, I CAN'T WAIT to be [insert next stage]"

I just figure if you find ways to enjoy the now, you don't have to wait for the future...it just comes naturally. I'm sure when I'm 40 I'll enjoy what it brings, but I'll be 23 now and that's pretty awesome as well from my perspective

Don't get me wrong, I ain't blubberin. My life is aweXome right now, its just that grad school takes alot of time and energy I could otherwise be putting into sport. It's an investment I know, and I wouldn't want it any other way... just sayin. This past weekend at an oly tri, I got passed like a chump by a 44yrold on the bike. From what I've learned in the last yr or two and how I've been able to progress... come 2020, I'm going to be a force.

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deepbluex posted 19 weeks ago.

I kind of like waking up and feeling a little bit achy. It tells me I worked out well enough the day before. It alternates. One day my legs are achy and the next, my arms and upper body are achy.
If I wake up feeling no stiffness or soreness at all, I feel a little guilty.

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Anton posted 19 weeks ago.

There is no bloody way I would give anything to have the recovery time I had in my 20's...it would probably come with a healthy dose of zits, awkwardness, and angst...
All that said...I actually find now as I head into my late 50's (USAT 55-59 next year!) that my drop in speed is noticeable but my endurance is fine...my recovery is ...ok. but I'm the soul of caution and walking breaks help...
The plus side? My age group is smaller! Look at most races and you'll see that after 45-49 they drop by almost half...All I have to do is hold on till the 90-95 AG and I might break top ten in my AG!
I remember my races from the 40-44,45-49...sometimes I'd get hardware, but mostly I'd get spanked....but now? Those guys don't show up anymore... they quit a long time ago.

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olivestri posted 19 weeks ago.

hey anton - winning by longevity is still winning. keep it up : )

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deepbluex posted 19 weeks ago.

Anton - life is an endurance event!

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jhudalla posted 19 weeks ago.

deepbluex wrote:
Anton - life is an endurance event!

+ 1,000,000

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gfd posted 19 weeks ago.

I have lost sprinting speed, jumping ability, and some reflexive reaction time since my 20's, but at 39 I am without a doubt in the best shape of my life. I have been running for 10 years now and doing tris for 3. It is amazing how much better I feel training for tris than solely running. I have aches and pains now and then but they don't bother me much. The biggest difference in my attitude now, is that I don't feel like I have to be religious with my training plans. I use them as a guide and listen to my body in regards to rest and when to push it. I know a big mental adjustment will take place when the PR's stop coming, but I feel extremely fortunate that I have been lucky enough to get faster each of the last 10 years. My best marathon and triathlon are still to come.

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Anton posted 19 weeks ago.

jhudalla wrote:
deepbluex wrote:
Anton - life is an endurance event!

+ 1,000,000


True...but nobody gets out alive...as long as I'm healthy and have all my marbles,cool... If not...I'd be happy with a "Jim Fixx Exit."

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Ralph posted 19 weeks ago.

+1 on the smaller age groups. I am 67 and although I am not as fast as I was in my 50's, but neither is the competition. It is much easier to have an age group placing and to qualify for things such as USAT Nationals, etc. as the number of qualifiers is the same regardless of the number in your group. In addition, it is really nice to be able to train whenever you want and not have to fit it around your work schedule ... so I say bring it on. I can't wait until I move to the 70-74 age group!!!

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cutiger95 posted 19 weeks ago.

Don't mean to be smug. But I agree with the older thing. When I was in my 20's I could run a 22 to 24 min 5k by simply lying on the couch and signing up and running. Now I get to 24 mins and that is running at least 3 times per week.

I have aches and can no longer eat what I please. But with my new work in triathlons and my attempt to get the weight down I am sure that I will return to my low 20 times.

Dedication comes with age and I am simply trying to enjoy each stage of my life and so far the present is the best.