phelps diet plan....
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hwangnyc posted 15 weeks ago.
It's from the NY Post. It has to be accurate. ;)
Gotta lose that head fat.
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Tamara posted 15 weeks ago.
I actually saw the NBC feature piece where they interviewed him and followed him around talking about his nutrition. I don't recall the lunch and dinner extravaganzas, but the breakfast does sound like what he said...I remember being grossed out.
so, don't blame the NY Post for this one.
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jsk85 posted 15 weeks ago.
From interviews with him, it seems relatively accurate.
I'm not sure the types of fuel have as substantial an effect on race performance when he is mostly working in the anaerobic (his longest race is sub 4min). Probably moreso on longer training. Also, I'm sure these are things he likes to eat occaisionally, but not every morning. They just would grab peoples attention better than like 5 pounds of oatmeal or something.
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UFTriGator posted 15 weeks ago.
Swimmers' diets are vastly different from runners and cyclists because weight doesn't matter in the water. Go to a D1 women's program and you'll be hard-pressed to find a skinny girl on the team. Even one of the Japanese men in the finals last night or the night before (I forget which event) had some very obvious fluff.
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KitKat posted 15 weeks ago.
I saw that NBC interview as well. I was in disbelief. Must be nice to eat whatever you want whenever you want.
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gatrswmr posted 15 weeks ago.
Eating whatever you want was one of the best perks of being a swimmer. Only part that sucks is when you stop swimming you're used to eating whatever you want :)
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deepbluex posted 15 weeks ago.
There's that skeptical side of me that wonders whether the best swimmer in the world would reveal all his cards publicly to his competition, present and future. I'd have to take that story with a bit of a grain of salt. It's a fun story to read but I'm sure that behind the scenes, there are some very smart people who manage every aspect of his performance, including his diet.
It just reminds me of Arnold's line from the documentary "Pumping Iron": "He comes and asks me for advices. So I give him wrong advices. ha ha ha ha!"
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christri25 posted 15 weeks ago.
maybe it is dis information phelps put out so his opponents think he is junkin it... i just dont buy it ! as for weight not being a factor thats true but your only as good as what you eat. at the olympic level you can't eat fried eggs per say, maybe a egg white omlete made in oilve oil !!
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Anton posted 15 weeks ago.
It think it's a hoot that some folks just can't believe that someone can be a world class athlete and eat whatever they want. Being an athlete of his caliber is a factor...so is the fact that he's young with an already high metabolism...means that almost anything he eats is fuel. I'm sure he's not eating crap, many of us don't, but if it's good food, and you're burning it...shovel it in! He might not eat like that during a competition week but in training, I'm sure he does.
Ever see those pieces they do at the Olympics about how much these folks eat? These are athletes with smart coaches who have taught them that restricting calories at high training levels is wrong.
The engine needs fuel and cutting out proper fuel hurts the engine.
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TriSooner posted 15 weeks ago.
UFTriGator wrote:
I thought the same thing! He was, well, almost pudgy. Or at least compared to Phelps.
Even one of the Japanese men in the finals last night or the night before (I forget which event) had some very obvious fluff.
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jperubog posted 15 weeks ago.
+ 1 to what Anton said, This dude is at a level way beyond what most people here can comprehend, his body is burning so many calories that it probably doesn’t matter what he puts into his stomach, I’ll bet you a couple hours later he’s still hungry.
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jtrimom posted 15 weeks ago.
I want to believe it- I believe it. I want to eat 10,000 calories a day and I want to eat everything that looks and tastes good. I am not sure I would be able to move for hours after (Thanksgiving), but it sounds like a good plan. eat, sleep, train. oh, ya, I have 4 kids and laundry, lots and lots of laundry. How many calories does folding burn?
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Tamara posted 15 weeks ago.
My cousin is a Div I swimmer at a local university (unnamed to protect the innocent). He and a few teammates, each of whom has swum times qualifying for the early rounds of the Olympic trials, often come hang out in my family room on the weekends -- large screen tv, beer fridge and home-cooking are the main attractions, in that order! As an example, one afternoon I watched them put away literally about 10-12lbs of homemade chili topped with cheese, a huge party-size bag of tortilla chips, more than a few beers and Cokes (not diet), and over 100 homemade chocolate chip cookies. That's three 21yr olds.
When I went to their next meet a few days later, there they were in their little speedos, and not an ounce of fat to be seen. Like TriGator and Anton said, combine youth with top-caliber athletics and they can't shovel in the calories fast enough.
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Star posted 15 weeks ago.
Ahhh to be a young male. But I'll tell you what I learned recently: You must eat enough to sustain those training weeks packed full of crazy hours swimming, biking and/or running. That means eating lots of calories. I actually *gained* weight and lost muscle because I wasn't feeding my body correctly...not what you want before the biggest run of your life. So, rock on Michael (and eat a pizza fo rme!).
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brittda posted 15 weeks ago.
UFTriGator wrote:
Swimmers' diets are vastly different from runners and cyclists because weight doesn't matter in the water. Go to a D1 women's program and you'll be hard-pressed to find a skinny girl on the team. Even one of the Japanese men in the finals last night or the night before (I forget which event) had some very obvious fluff.
Exactly right on. I am sure the diet is accurate for the most part (from first hand collegiate swimmer knowedge). Not only that, but he is only 23 hello back then y'all could have eaten that and not gained an ounce.
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ChunkyB posted 15 weeks ago.
brittda wrote:
Not only that, but he is only 23 hello back then y'all could have eaten that and not gained an ounce.
I'm 25, and I'd gain 5 pounds if I even looked at a fried egg sandwich.
Of course, that's because if I looked at it, I would have to eat it. But still.
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brittda posted 15 weeks ago.
ChunkyB wrote:
brittda wrote:Not only that, but he is only 23 hello back then y'all could have eaten that and not gained an ounce.
I'm 25, and I'd gain 5 pounds if I even looked at a fried egg sandwich.
Of course, that's because if I looked at it, I would have to eat it. But still.
ahahhah I would too now at almost 40. I meant if you were swimming that much. Seriously. When my brothers were in Highschool and college swimming (they also did xc skiing) they would come home, eat an entre meal then have a full dinner 2 hours later. Bigger kids tho, 6'3 and 6'0.
All the colegiate swimmers I knew ate more in a day than I could in a week.
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beads1985 posted 15 weeks ago.
He is a youngin' and can get away with eating some junk, but he may be doing a little subterfuge as well.
Nothing to it, but to do it
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diva_mom posted 15 weeks ago.
how exciting would it be to know he eats a million grilled chicken breasts with spinach, black beans and brown rice?
Don't be so easy on yourself 'cause this one might be all that you have left
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jtrimom posted 15 weeks ago.
diva_mom wrote:
how exciting would it be to know he eats a million grilled chicken breasts with spinach, black beans and brown rice?
about as exciting as it would be to see Matt in a three piece suit...couldn't help it...I think I need to go look at the speedo thread again ;)
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diva_mom posted 15 weeks ago.
mmmm...matt. that's better than anything on michael phelps plate.
sorry to the OP, we can't help it.
Don't be so easy on yourself 'cause this one might be all that you have left
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kylie posted 15 weeks ago.
Yeah Matt and his speedo are definitely competing with my views of phelps pics ;)
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tri-ac posted 15 weeks ago.
maybe when his racing season is slower, he eats whatever, but i'm figuring that the "anything goes" diet is somewhat hyperbole during the serious part of his training season
his celebration (all pumped and exuberant) after the 4x100 race showed that he has very little body fat right now, so i tend to think that he has been eating fairly healthy stuff. additionally, this guy has been single-mindedly working to kick ass at the olympics, and i expect nutrition was a part of his training when he's looking for 1/100 of seconds.
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Ironmom posted 15 weeks ago.
I totally believe it. When I swam at the University Pac10 level, we ate whatever the hell we wanted and a lot of it. The coach would come to the van on the way to a swim meet with boxes of donuts. We went out as a team one night at a big Italian restaurant and they had to send someone to the store to buy more pasta!!! Literally, we ate them out of pasta. Seriously, at 10,000 plus yards a day, you can pretty much put away whatever you want.
And the reason Phelps is so freakishly fast has less to do with whether he eats a pizza or a boneless skinless chicken breast and more to do with the fact that he's got a 7' wingspan, shovels for hands, flippers for feet, most of his body is torso and he has the flexibility of a Cirque de Soleil contortionist, and probably a killer natural VO2Max to boot, plus the lung volume of a blue whale.
Being an incredibly fast swimmer boils down to three things: superior genetics (body size, shape, flexibility, lung volume), proper technique, and a hell of a lot of very hard and painful work. Competitive swimming is the hardest training I've ever done. They say swimmers have to have a very high pain tolerance because swimming that hard just hurts, in a whole-body manner. I would sit in the locker room after a workout with every muscle in my body literally fibrillating. And that was at nowhere near the level that Phelps trains. My money is on the fact that the boy can eat whatever he wants. This isn't triathlon, people, swimmers just aren't that anal about what they put in their bodies, at least not in my experience (and one guy on my team competed at the Olympics, and he also ate the "See Food" diet.
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RREfan posted 15 weeks ago.
+1 with Anton. This is my first year of tri training and I have been eating whatever I can get my hands on. Obviously, most of the calories should come from all those good things (fruits, veggies, whole grains, lean meats, etc.), but some junk scattered in there shouldn't be detrimental as long as it's gettin' burned.
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Anton posted 15 weeks ago.
OOOOOH Mom...like the new avatar!
You too can eat whatever you want folks...Leave all that short course nonsense behind and start doing loooong stuff. How many calories did you burn at the JFK last year Beads? 12K or something like that...
I'm putting in around 14 hours a week right now (mostly on the bike) and eatin' whatever I want...
(yes, it is possible to ride the trainer and study.)
And jtrimom...stop folding clothes! That will give you at least two hours a week that you can workout!
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chekmarks posted 15 weeks ago.
i believe that he actually eats that food, i just don't understand how you can swim after eating all that? last night i was part of a pizza eating contest gone horribly wrong (the prices of the pizza increased incrementally, but the area of a circle is r(r) so the pizza gets WAY bigger for very little extra $$!). after eating 1/3 of the 'fiesta' size pizza and 1/3 of a deep dish pizza i couldn't even move, let alone swim!
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Crazyquick23 posted 15 weeks ago.
When I was wrestling in high school my team went to this camp in Minn. and we shoveled down as much food as we could put in our mouths (6000 plus Cals) and we were doing 3-4 practices a day and all of us lost weight. It's really simple he's burning a ton of calories because of A) his metabolism is very high and B) he works out endless hours a day training when he's not competing. What exactly you eat is fairly overrated since most people don't see the differance between pasta w/ meat sauce and cheese and pizza. They really are similar to each other with the way they are broken down by the body. **Assuming both are not whole grain**
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PrinceofClydes posted 15 weeks ago.
Ah, vindication!
A couple of years back, a college lad on trifuel asked about his eating at BK & Taco Bell because he was short of time with classes and workouts and whether he could succeed in triathlon on that.
I said, sure, you're 21 years old, working out like a Trojan and fuel is fuel.
Boy, did I catch flak for that. I should dig out that thread again.
I stand by what I said and it looks like Phelpsie is making my point for me.
I remember eating all I could get my hands on in college, playing basketball 7 days a week and couldn't get past 187lbs @ 6'3" until my senior year.
I dropped 25lbs since January and ordered pizza twice last week, including last nigt actually, I'm 204 this morning.
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swimmer52 posted 15 weeks ago.
I have a couple of comments:
1. When I swam D1 NCAA I remember getting home from practice and eating dinner, only I kept eating beyond what was normal because I couldn't feel full! It was weird.
2. I am surprised by what high performance athletes can consume. On the swim team we were basically a bunch of alcoholics: everyone drank at the parties on the weekends and sometimes even during the week. Yet when we got in the pool people kicked butt, placed 3rd at MAC one year. Didn't seem to hold anyone back.
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jsk85 posted 15 weeks ago.
swimmer52 wrote:
2. I am surprised by what high performance athletes can consume. On the swim team we were basically a bunch of alcoholics: everyone drank at the parties on the weekends and sometimes even during the week. Yet when we got in the pool people kicked butt, placed 3rd at MAC one year. Didn't seem to hold anyone back.
This is where I always wondered. I rowed in college and rowing teams, like most college teams are known for partying pretty hard, basically across the board. So, in reality aren't you competing with a bunch of other teams that for the mostpart eat like crap and drink themselves stupid most of the time too? I'd like to see how well a "completely clean fueling" team would compare
Maybe you're doing well because it's relative to the competition, not to the true potential
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chekmarks posted 15 weeks ago.
OH MY GOD HOLY CRAP WOW GOOD LORD WHAT THE HELL DID HE JUST DO? AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHA. USA! USA! USA!
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beads1985 posted 15 weeks ago.
Anton wrote:
OOOOOH Mom...like the new avatar!
You too can eat whatever you want folks...Leave all that short course nonsense behind and start doing loooong stuff. How many calories did you burn at the JFK last year Beads? 12K or something like that...
I'm putting in around 14 hours a week right now (mostly on the bike) and eatin' whatever I want...
(yes, it is possible to ride the trainer and study.)And jtrimom...stop folding clothes! That will give you at least two hours a week that you can workout!
I was using my HR Monitor function to figure out the approximate calories I was burning and it was about 12,500 for the JFK 50.
When I do a marathon of a little over 4 hours I burn about 4300 calories.
I have figured out that I burn approximately 1000 calories an hours when I am putting in a pretty good effort.
At the NYC tri which was an Olympic distance, I finished in just under 3 hours and I burned 3800 calories.
MP works out like it's his job so I can imagine he is burning way more calories than me and he is 18 years younger so his metabolism is cranking too
Nothing to it, but to do it
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Sully800 posted 15 weeks ago.
I wrote a long response which got deleted, but based on my own caloric intake/body fat/activity level I def. believe that phelps eats 12,000 cals a day of whatever he wants
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christri25 posted 15 weeks ago.
we are just watch Phelps change history of swimming. It will be a long time before we see someone again dominate like that.
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Sully800 posted 15 weeks ago.
The funny part about statistics is the next Greatest of all Time could dominate in London, 2012 and erase all thoughts of Phelps. Doubt it though
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Ironmom posted 15 weeks ago.
Sully800 wrote:
The funny part about statistics is the next Greatest of all Time could dominate in London, 2012 and erase all thoughts of Phelps. Doubt it though
I doubt it. Though I am beyond thrilled at what Michael Phelps has accomplished, it has not erased any of the memories or excitement at watching Mark Spitz all those years ago, it doesn't do anything to diminish his accomplishments. Phelps is a phenomenal athlete and competitor, and I'm sure he'll be remembered for a very long time.
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PrinceofClydes posted 15 weeks ago.
Phelps' accomplishment, while impressive, is skewed by the fact that swimming has divided up a simple activity into too many very similar events, which, pardon the pun, waters down the significance of each gold medal. 50m crawl, 100m crawl, 200m crawl, wait, we missed one. Why not a gold medal for 150m crawl? Then Phelpsie could have 9 gold medals.
They could save a lot of thrashing and splashing by giving one gold each for backstroke, breaststroke, fly and crawl, over say, 400m, and be done with it. Toss in a relay just for fun.
Really, does covering 400m submerged in water become that much more interesting because you decide to swim it on your back?
What if we got similarly creative on the track? I know, let's do a 200m race running backwards!
That'll be worth a gold medal for sure.
Or in track cycling?
Let's give a gold medal for the kilo sprint while riding with no hands!
They don't swim a 50m breaststroke or an 800m crawl at the Olympics. Let's trim this marathon of trivial swimming races down to a handful and make winning a gold medal into something really worthwhile. Maybe one gold medal for Best All-Round Swimmer like the Decathlon and Heptathlon.
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PrinceofClydes posted 15 weeks ago.
*double post*
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Ironmom posted 15 weeks ago.
PrinceofClydes wrote:
Phelps' accomplishment, while impressive, is skewed by the fact that swimming has divided up a simple activity into too many very similar events, which, pardon the pun, waters down the significance of each gold medal. 50m crawl, 100m crawl, 200m crawl, wait, we missed one. Why not a gold medal for 150m crawl? Then Phelpsie could have 9 gold medals.
I don't see that it's all that different than track & field. You've got 100m, 200m, 400m, 800m, 1500m, 5000m, 10000m, then you've got most of the above while jumping over hurdles, some of the above while running over obstacles (steeplechase), you've got throwing hammers, throwing discus, throwing javelin, throwing shot. Jumping high, jumping long, jumping with a pole...
Each of these are specialties. What makes people like Spitz, Phelps, Bruce Jenner (decathlete from way back), etc. amazing is an ability to do so many different things and do them well. Backstroke is completely different than crawl, than fly, than breaststroke. I'm a great butterflier and freestyler and suck at backstroke and am mediocre at breaststroke, so I can really appreciate someone who can do so many things so well. When you see Phelps pulling away in the IM in his "worst stroke" (breaststroke), well that's pretty impressive (to me at least). Then again, I'm a bona fide swimming geek.
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PrinceofClydes posted 15 weeks ago.
Yeah, some good points.
(100, 200, 400, 800, 1500, 5k, 10k, is seven events only two of the seven are also done over hurdles, that's not "most of the above.")
I agree that track seems similar but it doesn't seem to be a problem there, - that one athlete can corral a double-handful of medals. Sprint doubles and the most common, but not the rule. 5k / 10k has been done, but..
I've never heard of a triple gold medalist on the track, not counting relays or field events, like Lewis & Owens did.
Nobody wins multiple weight classes in boxing or wrestling at the same Olympics
Gymnastics has the most similarity with swimming where one man could conceivably win gold in the team, all-around, and six apparatus individual events, totaling eight medals at the same Olympics. Latynina came closest with six medals, including 4 gold (all around, team, floor & vault) in 1956 when her rival Keleti also won six medals.
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Did anyone read this there is NO way Phelps is eating the crap they report... Fried eggs with Mayo , Chocolate chip pancakes. I do not disocunt 12,000 calories but I am sure the food is of better substance. Leave it to the NYpost.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/08132008/news/nationalnews/phelps_pig_secret...
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