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Both me and my cousin are running in Marathons this October. He will be in the Rockwood Ill. Marathon and I'll be participating in the Toronto Marathon. We are both second time runners.

I went to visit him in the States and he showed me his forerunner 305. Before I went to visit him I thought watches were too expensive and not worth the investment. I believed that it would was unnecessary and all I really needed to do was go out and run. After giving it some consideration, perhaps it is about time I invest in a good watch if I plan on continuing into tri sports.

What do you guys think? Does everyone here train with a high-tech watch? Could you do without it?

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tri-ac posted 21 weeks ago.

maybe i didn't understand...
i don't know how you train without a watch of any kind
any old watch is more helpful than none.
after that, it just depends on how much of a data geek you are

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Nutty posted 21 weeks ago.

I personally prefer running without one. I like to just do my thing and enjoy my run.

That being said, i wear my 305 for about 90% of my running. For TRAINING i really enjoy having the stats and comparing and being able to judge progress. But after each race i do at least 2 or 3 runs without it to sort of take a chance and reconnect with the freedom of going for a run for as long as i want, wherever i want, since thats what got me started in all this.

As for the bike, i always wear it when im training, or really on my race bike at all. When im commuting i dont though unless im trying to track the distance to somewhere.

Swimming, i dont want to talk about. My 305 was DOA for a week until it dried out last time i did that with it.

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peterwong posted 21 weeks ago.

tri-ac wrote:
maybe i didn't understand...
i don't know how you train without a watch of any kind
any old watch is more helpful than none.
after that, it just depends on how much of a data geek you are

I just run at the pace I am most comfortable with and gradually increase the distance in accordance with the amount of time I have until the race. On occasion I will bring a timex with me just to see how long routine distances will take, but as far as a watch, I mean tracking pace, hr, distance, etc.

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Anton posted 21 weeks ago.

Sometimes I use a watch...sometimes I don't. Depends on how I feel. It's cool to just unplug and see waht you can do and go by how you feel. You don't need to get all geeked out...just a simple Timex Ironman or Nike will do, ...I'll often race without one also...but mostly just shorter stuff. If you do want to progress a watch will help you gauge your progress.

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J.Michael posted 21 weeks ago.

I use a standard cycling computer on my bike. Cadence is about the only upgraded feature. (and it's becoming the norm.)
Up until today I used just a plain 10yr+ old Timex Ironman. (I think I got it at Target or Kmart when I was 16 or so)
Today, I used my new Polar F6M HRM. I bought a HRM really just to see how close to my optimal heartrate I've been training. So, I strapped it on, got it calibrated, and was off.
I really just let it record the workout and didn't watch it like an egg timer or anything. I just worked out by feel as normal. Turns out I spend about 90% of my normal workout time in my optimal zone.... Go figure! The only time I really got my heartrate over my target was during the last 1/4 or so of a brick workout after a 40mi ride. I PR'd the bike and had to cut back a bit to avoid blowing up on the run.

So, long story short......If you continually feel better after working out. You're probably doing ok. If you always feel drained, sore, or weak, you're probably overdoing it.

And you can pay anywhere from $60 - $700 to confirm this..... I'll probably use my HRM until the batteries die....then who know's. After all it only cost me $60 to update my old Timex.

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peterwong posted 21 weeks ago.

Thanks for the replies. I think I am going to stick to my Timex for the time being. :D

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gatrswmr posted 21 weeks ago.

A distance/pace/HR watch can help you track progress and maybe train better but the HR function is the most useful IMHO. It has helped me realize how my body feels at a given HR and how long I can continue with that amount of pain. Your HR is also what you can control day in/out, your pace will be dictated by course, weather conditions, soreness, etc... in addition to your effort level.

If you're looking for a smaller investment, I'd recommend a HR monitor. That being said I have the 305 because I like not having to plan out a course to go run...

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jhudalla posted 21 weeks ago.

I rock the HR monitor (basic polar) but I basically just use the timing portion of it to gauge my calorie intake as my PRE is pretty much smack on at this point. This method has been been my guiding light and has really made the difference in both my speed and endurance development.

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tsilcyc posted 21 weeks ago.

Anton wrote:
Sometimes I use a watch...sometimes I don't.

What's the point of running then... it's like it never happened. :)

If I don't have the watch, then how will I track my run? How will I know if I've made progress from my last run and the one before that? This is just crazy talk. Sometimes I wear the Garmin on one arm and my Timex on the other. Where the heck are my meds... you've caused me to have an episode.

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beads1985 posted 21 weeks ago.

tsilcyc wrote:
Anton wrote:
Sometimes I use a watch...sometimes I don't.

What's the point of running then... it's like it never happened. :)

If I don't have the watch, then how will I track my run? How will I know if I've made progress from my last run and the one before that? This is just crazy talk. Sometimes I wear the Garmin on one arm and my Timex on the other. Where the heck are my meds... you've caused me to have an episode.


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jonovision_man posted 21 weeks ago.

peterwong wrote:
Thanks for the replies. I think I am going to stick to my Timex for the time being. :D

I have a cheap Casio... but it can record laptimes, which I use for kilometer markers. Print off a route map with km markers from gmap-pedometer.com and it's all I need! :)

jono

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jonovision_man posted 21 weeks ago.

peterwong wrote:
I'll be participating in the Toronto Marathon.

Me too! You don't work at RBC, do you? I know a guy with the same name. :)

jono

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olivestri posted 21 weeks ago.

i don't wear a watch when i run and only have a general sense of how far the run i am going on is. probably just depends on your racing philosophy, your interest in stats, and what you are trying to get out of all this.

i think it is possible to train for the more intense events out there without tracking your every movement. but if you enjoy tracking all that data, by all means have at it!

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vanjames posted 21 weeks ago.

I've been a slave for too long to the HRM watch. This year my strap fizzed out and I was too lazy to replace the battery( Polar wear link strap). Ran off RPE and pace (from my nikeplus). Have been PR'ing everything since I haven't used the HRM. Seems I would hold back because of the numbers - without the HRM shaved 30mins on my Half IM time at Vineman 70.3.

I've since gone back to my basic timex ironman. Maybe time to list the 625X for sale.

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xc800runner posted 21 weeks ago.

Two things I use:

1) Map My Run
2) The clock on my microwave.

I have a watch to record times in the pool/open water, and a cycling computer with a dead cadence sensor (wireless link distance is off slightly). Run off feel and don't wory about time/hr/pace. If it's a hard workout, run hard. If you're doing lsd, just get out there and cruise comfortably. Simple as that.

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TriSooner posted 21 weeks ago.

tsilcyc wrote:
This is just crazy talk.
"I know, that's my brother, Crazy Talk. We're all a little worried about him." Simpsons reference. I've been a slave to data before and it is liberating to just go run or ride. I got all OCD and "OMG I am slowing down!" But now I've Stopped Worrying and Learned to Love the Bomb No Watch.

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danpatgal posted 21 weeks ago.

My Timex band has been unreliable ... so I've been running without a watch for many workouts, like xc800runner said, just go hard if it's a hard day, go easy if it's not. If you're constantly looking at your watch, trying to see how fast or far you've gone, you risk missing two reallly important things about doing triathlon: 1.- learning to feel what your body can do, when you need rest, etc., and 2. - the scenery (except in the pool). I do, unless I'm having an Emil Zatopek day, generally use the watch when doing track intervals.

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trigirltina2 posted 21 weeks ago.

xc800runner wrote:
Two things I use:

1) Map My Run
2) The clock on my microwave.

I have a watch to record times in the pool/open water, and a cycling computer with a dead cadence sensor (wireless link distance is off slightly). Run off feel and don't wory about time/hr/pace. If it's a hard workout, run hard. If you're doing lsd, just get out there and cruise comfortably. Simple as that.

Do you have time to PM and help with Map my run? Thanks.

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olivestri posted 21 weeks ago.

hey that was fun. here's my run

http://www.mapmyrun.com/run/united-states/dc/washington/463165102914

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peterwong posted 21 weeks ago.

Thanks for the link!

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jsk85 posted 21 weeks ago.

mapmyrun/mapmyride is great...I spend way too much time looking at possible routes and their elevation profiles (crude but gives you an idea) for my bike rides there too.

Since my HR monitor died in March and i haven't replaced the battery yet, I have been timing my runs on my iPod. crude, but effective enough. I never had GPS capability or anything more high tech than a general HR monitor though.

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tsilcyc posted 21 weeks ago.

TriSooner wrote:
tsilcyc wrote:
This is just crazy talk.
"I know, that's my brother, Crazy Talk. We're all a little worried about him." Simpsons reference. I've been a slave to data before and it is liberating to just go run or ride. I got all OCD and "OMG I am slowing down!" But now I've Stopped Worrying and Learned to Love the Bomb No Watch.

[Dr. Strangelove?]

That's just freaking insane. Next thing you know, you'll tell me you're one of those people that covers up the treadmill display. Freaks! All of you! Why don't you just have them cover up the timer at the Ironman when you come across?????

I have to run now.... I need to weigh my cereal....

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catwood posted 21 weeks ago.

I don't bother most of the time. I just look at the clock on the way out the door and again on the way in. I only use one if I'm doing some sort of timed interval. I hate watch tan lines.

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diva_mom posted 21 weeks ago.

i wear a watch, but i can't ever remember to do anything with it.

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Ironmom posted 21 weeks ago.

I wear a watch some of the time, and sometimes not. Depends on what I want to do that day. I know the distances on all of my favorite routes, so the only reason to wear a watch is if I care about intervals or something.

RPE is remarkably accurate for me. Once I bought a HRM and wore it at a race. I forgot to look at it until afterwards. I stayed within one heartbeat of where I wanted to be in my target zone for 2.5 hours. So after that, I've only worn it when I really wanted the data, which is rarely, and I've worn it at HIM and IM distance to keep myself from overamping the bike via adrenaline.

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azstinger11 posted 21 weeks ago.

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jtrimom posted 21 weeks ago.

my running partner just got a new garmin 405 and up until now, we would just go along, merrily on our way, I would talk his ear off, and he would nod and say "yes, sharon, you're right" (just how a running partner should be, right?) Now with the new gadget, it's we're going too slowly,... this can't be right,... we've gotta speed up...it's me or the Garmin (although he paid more for the watch :(

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trigirltina2 posted 21 weeks ago.

new partner. You need your pace:( or the newness can wear off.

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Ironmom posted 21 weeks ago.

Oh yeah, I ran with a guy who had an all-new arm gadget. The dang thing beeped when we went too slow. Beeped when we went too fast, Beeped for no reason at all. That was the last run I did with him and The Gadget, that's for sure!

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jonovision_man posted 21 weeks ago.

Ironmom wrote:
Oh yeah, I ran with a guy who had an all-new arm gadget. The dang thing beeped when we went too slow. Beeped when we went too fast, Beeped for no reason at all. That was the last run I did with him and The Gadget, that's for sure!

I was next to a guy like that in my last 1/2 marathon... finally one of the guys I was running with just turned and yelled at the guy "can you make that thing stop beeping!?!". :)

He just said what we all were thinking. :)

jono

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tsilcyc posted 20 weeks ago.

I was running next to a guy wearing a metronome in order to keep his run cadence. 90 beeps a minute. I sped up.

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xman posted 20 weeks ago.

peterwong wrote:
I thought watches were too expensive and not worth the investment. What do you guys think? Does everyone here train with a high-tech watch? Could you do without it?

A standard Timex Ironman watch sales for $40.00. Expensive??? Like others on here, I use my watch during every work out to track my progress. I wouldn't want to work out with out it. I may as well be swimming, biking, and running naked..... :)