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started by xc800runner on July 31, 2008

So here's the bad and the good:

Bad - My stunning, hand built and finished basque frame was stolen 2 weeks ago. And it's now irreplaceable.

Good - State Farm, through my renter's policy, is sending me a check for $3800 to get something to replace it with. That's near 2k more than what I spent to build up the thing. Hooray!

So question: If you had about 4k burning a hole in your pocket, a P2K with SRAM Force, FSA SLK-Light, Aeolus 6.5 front, Zipp 900/X-Lab 3-spoke rear and profile CX bars, what would you buy?

New tri frameset? SRM? New road bike? Long term, high yield CD?

Oh, the possibilities. And to the guy now riding my former beauty, thanks. But I still hope you get hit by a taxi.

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olivestri posted 17 weeks ago.

I don't know what a P2K is, but I'm guessing you've got one you could go a couple years without any new equipement. But I would not recommend a CD. Instead, I'd open up an online trading account and put that money in about 2 or 3 stocks. Not very diversified, but your young you've got time. Look for something cheaper than it should be, there is a lot of that right now because the market is beat down by recession fears and this dumb*ss administration. By next spring, no one is going to remember, optimisim and markets with be high. And, don't forget to take your profits before you can't.

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beads1985 posted 17 weeks ago.

I think playing the market without experience may not be the best idea.
However investing in any of your standard products at a bank are not going to yield you much.

It does seem like you are lacking a bike.

You could get something reasonable and have some cash left over, but if you are really into doing triathlons, why not treat yourself to the best you can now afford.

I like the Cervelo. The P2C DuraAce bike would be about $3,000.00 and then get some wheels or spend a little more and get the P3C DuraAce bike for $4,500.00.

It is fun spending your money

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PJT posted 17 weeks ago.

Assuming you're really not looking for investment advice (though a Roth IRA would be my first choice if I were just starting out with retirement savings), I would either look at upgrading the frameset to carbon or getting a road bike.

P2K is still a very good frame, so the carbon upgrade won't save a ton of time but would be mainly for comfort on long rides.
There are loads of good road bike options at that price point, though the new Felt AR may be a great one when it comes out, depending on cost.

Definitely an aero helmet if you don't already own one.

Depending on where you live: indoor trainer.

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tri-ac posted 17 weeks ago.

powermeter

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TriSooner posted 17 weeks ago.

xc800runner wrote:
That's near 2k more than what I spent to build up the thing. Hooray!
I wouldn't be posting that on the Interwebs.

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PJT posted 17 weeks ago.

tri-ac wrote:
powermeter

Yes, a PM (though you could probably swing both that AND a tri frameset).

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xc800runner posted 17 weeks ago.

TriSooner wrote:
xc800runner wrote:
That's near 2k more than what I spent to build up the thing. Hooray!
I wouldn't be posting that on the Interwebs.

I gave them the receipts for what was on the bike so they could determine an appropriate replacement value. They knew exactly what it cost me.

As for the investment advice, thanks, but it was more a question of, if you had this new found cash, what would you do? Spend on something nice (new SRAM Red equipped roadie, power meter, etc.) or use the cash to make me some more?

I'd like to go the power route, but SRM's are absurd and one bike specific. And I have the rear race wheels covered so PowerTap isn't that good either, as I don't want to train on a 1080/disc or race on a non 1080/disc. Talk about impractical... Any other options for power that don't require a crank or hub? A computrainer would be sweet, if my computer weren't a mac. I suppose I could load the software onto my work PC and train in the office after hours.

Yeah, I'm mainly asking other people to dream for me. I know how much you all like to waste the day looking for bike gear.

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beads1985 posted 17 weeks ago.

xc800runner wrote:
TriSooner wrote:
xc800runner wrote:
That's near 2k more than what I spent to build up the thing. Hooray!
I wouldn't be posting that on the Interwebs.

I gave them the receipts for what was on the bike so they could determine an appropriate replacement value. They knew exactly what it cost me.

As for the investment advice, thanks, but it was more a question of, if you had this new found cash, what would you do? Spend on something nice (new SRAM Red equipped roadie, power meter, etc.) or use the cash to make me some more?

I'd like to go the power route, but SRM's are absurd and one bike specific. And I have the rear race wheels covered so PowerTap isn't that good either, as I don't want to train on a 1080/disc or race on a non 1080/disc. Talk about impractical... Any other options for power that don't require a crank or hub? A computrainer would be sweet, if my computer weren't a mac. I suppose I could load the software onto my work PC and train in the office after hours.

Yeah, I'm mainly asking other people to dream for me. I know how much you all like to waste the day looking for bike gear.

Well, it worked.
I was dreaming big and looking up gear ;-)

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jhudalla posted 17 weeks ago.

If I wuz you, I'd invest in an Roth IRA. You can always withdraw the money down the line penalty free. Plus, it's never too early to think about your retirement. Think of it this way. The more you plan for it now, the easier retirement will be waaaay down the road.

I obsess over my investments and retirements ( I'm 28 ). What I wouldn't give to have been able to slap down 4k in my early 20s... I presume.

Compound interest is a beautiful thing.

http://www.moneychimp.com/calculator/compound_interest_calculator.htm

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UFTriGator posted 17 weeks ago.

I'm confused....what do you own now?

Obviously the answer about what to do with the money is to get more stuff, but I don't even know what you have right now. Was your road bike stolen and now you're on your tri bike exclusively?

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TryScott posted 17 weeks ago.

I think "High yield CD" sounded too serious. If you are going to be sarcastic on the internet, you need to say something like "$3800 of GU."

As for advice, if you have a tri frame (P2K), components (SRAM), crank (FSA SL-K), TT bars (profile CX), and front and back tires, I think you just need a seat and maybe a stem. You should be able to find both for less than $3800. :)

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xc800runner posted 17 weeks ago.

UFTriGator wrote:
Obviously the answer about what to do with the money is to get more stuff, but I don't even know what you have right now. Was your road bike stolen and now you're on your tri bike exclusively?

My road bike was stolen, and I'd like to get a new one up and running. I have a fixie that I'm riding into work now, with my stolen road bike being the impetus to build up wheels for it.

TryScott wrote:
I think "High yield CD" sounded too serious. If you are going to be sarcastic on the internet, you need to say something like "$3800 of GU."

Seriously, I think that would be a good investment. I'd have my caloric requirements for the next 135 days. Though thanks for reminding me to pick up some more prior to this weekend's half.

I think I'm looking for a new road bike, but sort of want a computrainer too, and a power meter. Not really sure what to get. That's where y'all come into play.

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xc800runner posted 17 weeks ago.

jhudalla wrote:
If I wuz you, I'd invest in an Roth IRA. You can always withdraw the money down the line penalty free. Plus, it's never too early to think about your retirement. Think of it this way. The more you plan for it now, the easier retirement will be waaaay down the road.

I obsess over my investments and retirements ( I'm 28 ). What I wouldn't give to have been able to slap down 4k in my early 20s... I presume.

Compound interest is a beautiful thing.

I'm nearing 26, so not too far behind you. I'm already maxing my employer match on my 401k and my roth is topped out for 2008. But aside from that and some shares from my previous company, I'm not too concerned with investments at the moment.

I'm treating this as free money to use for something. Just don't know what that something is yet. Possibly a really nice trip if I qualify for Clearwater.

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brittda posted 17 weeks ago.

weeelllll....depends on what you have saved now. For me most "extra" gets spent on play things because we already max out 401ks, IRA's and invest additional funds monthly and have a year living cushion. It would be easy for me to say spend it all. That being said, I don't have "top of the line" anything, because until I get to be a better rider a more expensive bike (mine was in the 2k range) is not going to benefit me any at this point. I would probably go with something in the price range of the bike you are replacing and then invest the rest just because I am neurotic that way.

Olviestri--2 of my 401k accounts actually made out quite well the last couple of quarters, so all investing is not in vain. Now is actually a great time to get in and invest for the long term.

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UFTriGator posted 17 weeks ago.

Well, if you're going to go pro at Chicago this year, you pretty much NEED a tri bike with fast wheels. ;)

If you really want another road bike, though, competitive cyclist has a Ridley Excalibur on sale for $2k. That leaves enough money left over for some 404s to put on it. You'll need that setup if you're going to be doing ITU stuff next year (with your swim and run times, you need to be doing ITU). I'll even come meet you at your first ITU race next year and give you some pointers (if you let me hold on to your ankles on the swim).

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brittda posted 17 weeks ago.

xc800runner wrote:
jhudalla wrote:
If I wuz you, I'd invest in an Roth IRA. You can always withdraw the money down the line penalty free. Plus, it's never too early to think about your retirement. Think of it this way. The more you plan for it now, the easier retirement will be waaaay down the road.

I obsess over my investments and retirements ( I'm 28 ). What I wouldn't give to have been able to slap down 4k in my early 20s... I presume.

Compound interest is a beautiful thing.

I'm nearing 26, so not too far behind you. I'm already maxing my employer match on my 401k and my roth is topped out for 2008. But aside from that and some shares from my previous company, I'm not too concerned with investments at the moment.

I'm treating this as free money to use for something. Just don't know what that something is yet. Possibly a really nice trip if I qualify for Clearwater.

Maxing out your 401k and maxing your employer match are 2 different things, I am sure you know. Not to go off on a tangent...but If you can ,you should max (I think the allowance is 15k now) as much as you can as it is tax free and will help keep your taxable income down, as well as give you money for retirement. Everyone should max what the employer does, this is free money......

IF however you are planning to go pro (don't think I knew that or selectively read it) then you need a good bike :)

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brittda posted 17 weeks ago.

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jhudalla posted 17 weeks ago.

If you're treating it as free money and you already have a race bike...

1) completely aero-out your race setup (helmet, wheels, powertap, get the cheater wetsuit, maybe some new cool shades)

2) take the girl out to the fanciest place in town... she won't be mad at you for spending that money on your race stuff then... or less mad.

3) trust me about the roth. when you're an old fugger, you'll want as many income streams as possible. I know a couple of 67-year olds that are still doing ironmans, yes STILL DOING IRONMANS, and I'd bet they'd enjoy a little extra scratch. You'll never stop wanting more and cool(er) stuff for you bike.

4) and pay off that credit card!

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JesseM posted 17 weeks ago.

Give it to me. :)

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jhudalla posted 17 weeks ago.

JesseM wrote:
Give it to me. :)

good point. I'd like some new race wheels. Heck, you buy some and I'll take the old ones off your hands. hey, I just wanna do my part.

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danpatgal posted 17 weeks ago.

I never thought I'd see a thread mixing investments and tri-gear. Oh, blessed internet. If it were me, I'd pay down as much debt as I could ... if I didn't have any, well, a nice road bike would be fun, since you already have a couple other bikes. It sounds like you commute, so, perhaps an old beater, but in good condition, to ride into work would keep the theives away.

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xc800runner posted 17 weeks ago.

The stolen roadie was my trigger to finally build up wheels for my fixie, which I now ride into work. The pedals are worth about as much as the rest of the bike.

I'm looking at a Kestrel Talon or RT 700 at the moment. Can get either pretty cheap here in town. Anyone have experience with them? Talon would be built up as a road bike rather than tri, so I'd prefer experiences based on that set-up.

And to keep tri gator feeling happy, I may just go for the Ridley, but I'd scrap the 404's. Probably just get a rear Aeolus 6.5 to match my front. Or a set of Reynolds DV46's. Lightning fast hubs on those things.

jhudalla wrote:
I'd like some new race wheels. Heck, you buy some and I'll take the old ones off your hands. hey, I just wanna do my part.

Youre first in line for the Zipp disc if I get sponsored and have a set of Z99's thrown my way.