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started by diva_mom on July 30, 2008

If you have a coach, I want to hear about your experiences. I signed up for IMFL 70.3, and I want a coach to kick my butt through it. But the questions I have are related to remote vs local - want to know what you like and dislike about having them. What have you got?

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charlie6460 posted 17 weeks ago.

I am invloved in a group class that has 2 coaches. It is great!

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jhudalla posted 17 weeks ago.

I would recommend having a local coach. They can actually SEE you and tell if you're b/s ing them on your training or if you are really giving it your all. It's tuff to look them in the eye and say you're working hard when you know you're not.

just my .02. That and local coaches usually have other people to train with. So the group guilt/mentalily keeps you getting out of bed day after day when you're dead tired.

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beads1985 posted 17 weeks ago.

I would love to find a local coach, and find some money to afford it.

Till that happens, I am self coached.

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diva_mom posted 17 weeks ago.

Mr DM suggested it, to help with the flying turtle speeds. Since it was his idea, it must be ok, right?

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swimmer52 posted 17 weeks ago.

What if you're very organized and have a training system to follow? If I have a plan, and don't necessarily need help with my form and technique, what would coach be able to add?

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KitKat posted 17 weeks ago.

I have always gotten my coaching through TNT. At first it was just a huge group being coached but after my first season I branched off into longer distances and fell under the HIM coach for one on one. Into my second year with the team I got more individualized attention since I A. started to listen, B. showed I progressed quickly and C. had much higher goals then others on our team. I for one have never really cared for many of my coaches until recently. I usually hold a love-hate relationship with them. I’m probably categorized as one of the worst athletes to train. If I’m given a workout I will ask a million questions as to how it will better my performance, how many I’m allowed to do is said time and what kind of data analysis can I expect from it. I will also challenge them by throwing extra equalizations in. I’m also very stubborn….I rarely listen. After my last HIM and 15 min PR I wrote my coach a letter, thanking him and saying those words I never thought I’d say “You were right.” My coach has taught me speed, endurance, moderation and efficiency. He also pushed me through my HIM and gave my run a negative split for the last 6 miles. The last 3 miles were the best and worst felt in my life and I can't thank him enough for that.

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wmckean posted 17 weeks ago.

My coach is Elizabeth Fedofsky, a newly minted professional triathlete. There is a pretty significant difference in being trained by a coach and being trained out of a cookie cutter plan. I've enjoyed my off the shelf training plans. The last book I bought got me throgh IM FL 70.3. Liz, however, keeps my training interesting. She is manipulating my body in ways that the non-coached plans didn't do, and she has me doing workouts that I would not have thought of myself. Yes, she is kicking my ass and keeping it interesting, and all this "just to finish with a smile" at IM FL 08.

All my training is done via heart rate. I live in Georgia, Liz is in Illinois. We converse through email and by phone if necessary. We thoroughly review my performance goals for races, and never mention time as an objective.

It's nice having someone to answer to for my workouts, as well as someone who is smart enough about training to make adjustments when life or injury intervenes. Can you tell I'm enjoying being coached ;-)

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jsk85 posted 17 weeks ago.

No coach here...maybe I'll see it as worthwhile for the money when I go for IM...otherwise, I'm pretty disciplined and like to plan/strategize so I do alright on my own

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kylie posted 17 weeks ago.

I love my coach. While he is not right here, I have met with him in person a couple times (not a necessity, but nice if you want form help or just a face for all the emails, text messages, and phone calls).

He builds my training plan based on my goals and my current abilities, and adjusts it as I improve. He accounts for the bad weeks or when moving takes up my time. It lets me just focus on getting the work done, without having to think about if it is the right workout given how busy I am or what workouts I recently missed. It sets the bar at places I can reach, but that I have to work for or that I might not get if someone hadn't said "no really, you can do that. Just go!".

However, at the same time he does STRONGLY encourage questions. He wants me to understand the why of each workout, and what the goal of it is. So in practice there is a balance of "just doing" when that is all I can handle (work or school busy, etc), but also some wonderful weeks of learning the ideas behind the training.

Key to our successful relationship is communication and a feeling like I can ask or tell him anything I need to. Honestly, I respect him and how he helps me, and I feel that he has become not just a coach, but a close friend or big brother and one of my strongest supporters and believers.

(so thanks Marky!)

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iamtb13 posted 17 weeks ago.

I have a coach and he has made a world of difference. Taught me to swim pretty much from scratch and has gotten me on the podium a bunch of times. He builds me a plan every month and then we talk every few days to see how things are going and make adjustments as needed. We have done swim sessions, track sessions and he also does bike fitting. (Yesterday I got fitted for a new bike - he spent almost 2 hours to get it perfect.) Like Kylie and her coach, we have a great relationship and at almost 70 years old I think he could still beat me. If you are interested here is his bio off the USA Triathlon site. (I hope ChunkyB does report me for spam!)

Regional Coach Bio - Alan Melvin

City: Springfield
Phone: 703-644-3140
Email: coachalan@cox.net
Years Coaching: 6 USAT Certification Level: I

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Experience: In the past six years I have helped my athletes achieve their goals which have included 27 Ironman finishes, 24 marathon finishes, and personal bests at every distance from sprint to Ironman.

Information: My goal is to make each athlete feel that he/she is the only athlete I coach. To do that I specialize in developing individualized training schedules that fit my athletes’ life schedules, and I am available almost 24/7 to support their training. My personal experience includes 3 Chesapeake Bay Swims, 17 Marathons, and over 150 triathlons. Highlights include qualifying for and finishing the Hawaii Ironman, over 40 age group wins and three times being a member of Team USA.

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Raygir posted 17 weeks ago.

I have a local coach and like it alot,, he is the reason I get out of bed at 4:40 in the morning,..was shopping online vs local and found a good local coach that is reasonable, even the online ones aren't that cheap and I get the group track,swim and bike workouts/ training,, really helps on the running for me, , he doesnt do the sliver gold or platinum stuff,, treats all the same but will work with each persons goals , you can pay monthly qrtly bi-annually or yearly , my vote go local for a reasonable rate ,,and yeah he is a local pro and turns dang good times in on his races either short course or long

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tsilcyc posted 17 weeks ago.

Get a local coach. You want someone that you can talk to at least once a month and that will answer your emails. Don't waste your money on the online-cookie-cutter-one-plan-fits-all coaching machines. You don't need a pro or an ex-pro, just lookup coaches on the USAT Coaching Directory http://www.usatcoachdirectory.com/, get a handful in your local area and start calling them. Find one you click with and start working with them.

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ht001 posted 17 weeks ago.

Like others my preference and experience is to go with a local coach.

I have had a lot of success and enjoyment out of the process with local coaching. I didn't pursue coaching until 2006 when I did my first IM. Prior to that I cobbled stuff together on my own for the shorter distance stuff, but for IM, I didn't want to chance not doing enough, doing to much, or just doing everything wrong. Worked well, and now I find the whole arrangement invaluable.

One note, the best coach and training plan are nothing unless the coachee does the work...so if you commit to the coach commit to the work as well, that way you'll be sure to realize the true benefit.

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TryScott posted 17 weeks ago.

I found a local coach via the USAT website. When I contacted him, I found out that he did 2 hour group training sessions on weekend mornings. It was $30 per session, which seemed reasonable, considering most the one on one sessions were $60+ per hour. He would only take 5 people per group, so it was almost one on one. Plus the other people thought of good questions that I didn't think of.

I was going to have him do a month by month plan, but since I ended up moving and changing my race schedule so many times, I never did. What I really wanted is someone to look at my swim stroke, and someone to ask questions for a few hours. I'm going to look for a local coach again as soon as I find out exactly what my race schedule is for the next 6 months.

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diva_mom posted 17 weeks ago.

Swimmer52, if I were capable of being organized and pushing myself solo, I'd have a masters degree, rather than dropping out with 27/30 credits and 2 drafts of a thesis. I do better with an order of accountability.

So, I'll be talking to a local coach soon. I want my trip to FL to be a blast for everyone involved, and that'll include a solid performance on my part.

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tsilcyc posted 17 weeks ago.

TryScott wrote:
I found a local coach via the USAT website. When I contacted him, I found out that he did 2 hour group training sessions on weekend mornings. It was $30 per session, which seemed reasonable, considering most the one on one sessions were $60+ per hour. He would only take 5 people per group, so it was almost one on one. Plus the other people thought of good questions that I didn't think of.

I was going to have him do a month by month plan, but since I ended up moving and changing my race schedule so many times, I never did. What I really wanted is someone to look at my swim stroke, and someone to ask questions for a few hours. I'm going to look for a local coach again as soon as I find out exactly what my race schedule is for the next 6 months.

Just throwing this out there since it might be something for you to consider.

I have a GoPro Hero which can be used underwater. I film my stroke and then I can watch it and see what's going on. I've also posted these videos on YouTube to send to my coach.

I think if you search, you can find one of these cameras for about $80 now.

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TryScott posted 17 weeks ago.

tsilcyc wrote:
TryScott wrote:
I found a local coach via the USAT website. When I contacted him, I found out that he did 2 hour group training sessions on weekend mornings. It was $30 per session, which seemed reasonable, considering most the one on one sessions were $60+ per hour. He would only take 5 people per group, so it was almost one on one. Plus the other people thought of good questions that I didn't think of.

I was going to have him do a month by month plan, but since I ended up moving and changing my race schedule so many times, I never did. What I really wanted is someone to look at my swim stroke, and someone to ask questions for a few hours. I'm going to look for a local coach again as soon as I find out exactly what my race schedule is for the next 6 months.

Just throwing this out there since it might be something for you to consider.

I have a GoPro Hero which can be used underwater. I film my stroke and then I can watch it and see what's going on. I've also posted these videos on YouTube to send to my coach.

I think if you search, you can find one of these cameras for about $80 now.

That's something I'll have to add to my Christmas list. Thanks for pointing it out!