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Marathon after an Ironman?

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started by cbowcutt on July 28, 2008

Hi - I just finished IMLP on 7/20 and would like to train for a fall marathon (10/12). This allows only 10 weeks to both recover from the ironman and get back to a peak -- since I'd like to go all out for this marathon. Any suggestions on how wise (or unwise) this is or should I target a later marathon? thanks, Chris

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TriSooner posted 18 weeks ago.

I don't know about you, but I am burned out for months after an IM. (I just did Germany on 7/6 and I am dreading Pikes Peak Ascent on 8/15. Yuck.) If you just finished LP, getting ready for a marathon in 10 weeks isn't a question of physical training, but whether you are mentally ready to go at it again so soon.

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zagfan posted 18 weeks ago.

Good luck with the training, wish I could help but I've completed neither of them, let alone 10 weeks apart.

TriSooner, we need a detailed race report from the Pikes Peak Ascent. I live here in Colorado Springs and am thinking of doing it next year. I hiked up once last year and am hiking up again the weekend before the ascent. Should be a good run until you hit the tree line, and then the trees and oxygen disappear. I would recommend drinking a few beers until you're good and buzzed and then go for a 5 mile run, that should help with the feeling of oxygen deprivation once you get to the top. Good luck to both of you.

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jhudalla posted 18 weeks ago.

Do it! I think a HIM is pretty much equal to the fatigue suffered in a marathon, maybe with a little more pain in the marathon... but a IM has got to be several times that of a marathon. Therefore... a marry should be nothing since you're doing it so close. It's like running a 10k after a marathon. No problem!

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tsilcyc posted 18 weeks ago.

cbowcutt wrote:
Hi - I just finished IMLP on 7/20 and would like to train for a fall marathon (10/12). This allows only 10 weeks to both recover from the ironman and get back to a peak -- since I'd like to go all out for this marathon. Any suggestions on how wise (or unwise) this is or should I target a later marathon? thanks, Chris

Levels of fitness may vary. Void where prohibitted.

What I would do... granted... I've been known to do some silly things but...

- 2 weeks of nothing structured
- The remaining 7 weeks of Hal Higdon marathon plan... http://www.halhigdon.com/marathon/Mar00intermediate.htm

Some questions though...

1. Where's your race report?
2. Do you have any injury-like soreness or are you just sore?

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cbowcutt posted 18 weeks ago.

Thanks everyone. tsilcyc - my race report is at http://binza.blogspot.com/2008/07/ironman-lake-placid-race-report.html. I'm feeling good post-race though have soreness in my upper back (from aero position -- consistent problem throughout training). I've been doing some light swims to help recovery. And drinking alot of beer. Funny enough -- i followed Higdon's novice marathon plan for my first marathon a year ago (3:49).

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Anton posted 18 weeks ago.

I'm an Ultra runner , really, and find that IM's are a great spring board for a fall Ultra...If fact My Three IM's were all IMLP and I used the fitness gained to do Marine Corps Marathon or some 50K before a 50 miler in November...
Take a few weeks off...some light swimming maybe, then, Run Forrest Run! Higdon's good.
Oh, BTW Congrats on finishing a rough IM...A friend of mine called it the "Rusty Ironman"
We voluntered at the Boat House aid station from noon till about 12:45 in the morning (It's the last aid station before the finish) Will be racing there next year.

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tsilcyc posted 18 weeks ago.

cbowcutt wrote:
Thanks everyone. tsilcyc - my race report is at http://binza.blogspot.com/2008/07/ironman-lake-placid-race-report.html. I'm feeling good post-race though have soreness in my upper back (from aero position -- consistent problem throughout training). I've been doing some light swims to help recovery. And drinking alot of beer. Funny enough -- i followed Higdon's novice marathon plan for my first marathon a year ago (3:49).

I stand by what I stated above. If you really want to tweak the Higdon plan, do a 2 mile TT and plug it into a Daniel's vdot calculator to come up with your different paces for the plan. It's not exact but it's damn close for determining paces and times. I tend to be faster at longer distances so it's off on my marathon time but only slightly.

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Ultrarunner posted 18 weeks ago.

Go for it, you'll be fine. I did one two weeks after my first IM and made it just fine, not a PR, but still did fine. Focus on getting a full recovery. It's kind of like the taper period for any long distance race, you're not really going to add any more to your fitness level in such a short time. Recovering as best you can will help you more than anything. You'll be strong from all of the IM training.

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beads1985 posted 18 weeks ago.

I have done it before, go for it. As a few posts stated, Take a few weeks easy and swim, do some easy runs, maybe some elliptical, and some easy spins on the bike, then ramp up. You should have recovered and maintained fitness.

Good luck.

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