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Leroy Bonkers posted 18 weeks ago.
Were they negative comments? OR were they like "cool bike".
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TriSooner posted 18 weeks ago.
vistring wrote:
FTFY
Just anunusualtypical experience I had today
vistring wrote:
You must not ride much. I tease, I'm sure you ride plenty. Just not with roadies. Roadies are a-holes. Period. I've endured the 'get a real bike' comment before . . . from a fattie on a triple. Two things you have to assume when riding a tri bike: 1) every honk from a car means 'get of the road you moron' and 2) if the bike has hoods, the rider is a self-righteous jerk.
I have never seen a group of cyclists act like this.
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vistring posted 18 weeks ago.
Tri sooner,
I normally ride early morning on weekdays, since I don't go to work till around 1. Also I made a "special trip" to this location for the testing. I normally don't ride because the loop is short, completely flat, and I have a new reason now. Don't roadies ever do time trials? I just liked how the real peloton didn't care less about me, they had better things to do, like riding their bike, but the peloton only pulling 22mph had to make an issue of it.
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textri posted 18 weeks ago.
The pic is close, if it were, the guy would be wearing a jersey that lets everyone know who his cell phone carrier is and the dorky smile would be bigger and he would probably have a tire pump strapped on his bike
Finishing the race is the only thing that validates the cause.
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ryanweeg posted 18 weeks ago.
TriSooner wrote:
and 2) if the bike has hoods, the rider is a self-righteous jerk.
Well, how very general of you! Considering most triathletes often train on road bikes in the off-season or other times here or there. And yeah, every guy that rides a road bike is not an a-hole...just some.
"If one can stick to the training throughout many long years, that willpower is no longer a problem. It's Raining? That doesn't matter. I am tired? That's beside the point. It's simply just that I have to."
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hipfan posted 18 weeks ago.
Where in the last 30 years did all this animosity between cyclists an triathletes come from. I don't belong to a bike gang or a tri club, but you'd think we have so much in common that we should be best of friends. You don't se alot of marathon runners putting down cross country runners.
I think we should have an international summit, probably in Geneva, and get all the roadies and tri geeks together to figure this thing out. If we can't, we will throw them into a lake 2 miles from shore and tell them to swim back. Then they'll appreciate us.
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ryanweeg posted 18 weeks ago.
hipfan wrote:
Where in the last 30 years did all this animosity between cyclists an triathletes come from.
Probably post's like this on both roadies sites about triathlete's, and triathete forums about roadies. Seriously, there are bad apples in every bunch, proclaiming that the problem has to do with "everyone" who rides a road bike is ridiculous. I'm dissapointed in this thread and it's responses.
"If one can stick to the training throughout many long years, that willpower is no longer a problem. It's Raining? That doesn't matter. I am tired? That's beside the point. It's simply just that I have to."
-Emil Zatopek
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ChunkyB posted 18 weeks ago.
Have there really been that many negative posts in this thread?
I don't hate roadies, especially since I ride a road bike, and I like biking more than swimming and running, and I ride in groups when anyone agrees to ride with me (which is rare).
But I will say that triathletes, in general, are a more accepting group than cyclists. That's just based on my experience. It probably has a lot to do with my size and "out of shape" appearance. Maybe it's because triathletes know that I'm probably trying to lose weight and be more healthy (and I'll never hold them up in a race). But roadies probably see me as the guy who hangs on the back of the group and never takes a turn at the front because he's too out of breath.
But I have talked to a lot of both, and the triathletes are usually like "that's awesome that you're into triathlon. Which ones are you doing, etc." and the roadies are usually like "what's your average speed" or "what's the longest you've ever ridden" or some junk like this. This is an obvious generalization, but it's has held pretty true in my experience.
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beads1985 posted 18 weeks ago.
ryanweeg wrote:
hipfan wrote:Where in the last 30 years did all this animosity between cyclists an triathletes come from.
Probably post's like this on both roadies sites about triathlete's, and triathete forums about roadies. Seriously, there are bad apples in every bunch, proclaiming that the problem has to do with "everyone" who rides a road bike is ridiculous. I'm dissapointed in this thread and it's responses.
I agree.
I think it is a case by case basis. I have ridden with some roadies during a bike and they completely kicked my butt on the bike and left me in the dust.
I got some nice comments about my bike. When I finally finished, dead last, I walked in and had a bite to eat with everybody and we chatted. Then I got up and changed into my running shoes and asked if anybody wanted to go for a run. They thought I was nuts but everybody had a good time.
Maybe it is because I am more of a 'Fun Hog' and less competitive.
It is all about doing something healthy and having a good time.
Nothing to it, but to do it
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PJT posted 18 weeks ago.
ryanweeg wrote:
Probably post's like this on both roadies sites about triathlete's, and triathete forums about roadies. Seriously, there are bad apples in every bunch, proclaiming that the problem has to do with "everyone" who rides a road bike is ridiculous. I'm dissapointed in this thread and it's responses.
I think if you read some of TriSooner's other posts you'll see that he, in fact, trains as a pack-riding roadie from time to time. See hier: http://www.trifuel.com/forum/12488/daylight-savings-time-starts-this-weekend
Therefore, I might take his comments as being ever so slightly tongue in cheek on this topic.
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vistring posted 18 weeks ago.
Like I said before, there were a number pelotons out there. And all, but this particular one, were courteous and uneventful. In fact this was my first negative case with a peloton. Most roadies I know are willing to stop and help just about anybody stranded on the side the road. The strange part is, that if I was riding my road bike I probably would have joined in with the peloton. Regardless of which bike you are riding, pulling up directly in front of somebody and hitting the brakes is just dangerous.
I can laugh very easily with roadies at my 650 wheels and sleeveless Jersey.
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Nutty posted 18 weeks ago.
Yeah, i think it can really go either way with anyone. Ive seen some roadies be pretty cool to me on the road, and others be complete dicks. However, ive had the same experience with other triathletes on the road.
What ive personally seen though, which always makes me laugh, is that the nice folks are usually far far better than me, and the jerks are usually pretty unimpressive. And contrary to the above post, ive seen the same thing with runners and swimmers. Guess some people just take life too seriously and cant have any fun. Shame for them.
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Raygir posted 18 weeks ago.
I cant imagine any good reason a roadie would try to block you or grab brakes in a peloton, as one of the main rules in a peloton is to not touch your brakes unless absolutely needed, or cross wheels,,,, 2 main reasons for getting yelled at .. not holding your line and grabbing brakes without annoucing/signaling yelling a slow down/ stop. ( hell I yellled at a cat 3 in a crit for touching brakes in a turn when I was 4 inches off his wheel,, scared that poop outa me ..
other wise you might have 20 guys ride up your back.. maybe newbies roadies with an attitude, most/ many roadies also ride TT may be they dont do Tri's then again how many Tri guys ride single speeds/ fixed gear?
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ChunkyB posted 18 weeks ago.
Nutty wrote:
What ive personally seen though, which always makes me laugh, is that the nice folks are usually far far better than me, and the jerks are usually pretty unimpressive.
Totally. It might be a pride issue, and if they don't feel great about their own abilities, then they can maybe feel better if they make you feel like crap, or make fun of the way you look in spandex (shed a tear).
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zagfan posted 18 weeks ago.
I think its a case of an isolated group of jerks. Life is full of jerks, and unfortnately some ride bikes. I've been riding for a year now and have never had a bad experience with a roadie or a triathlete. I do agree that triathletes are more supportive but I think that stems from the fact that we are a smaller group of people and our sport is still growing. I can have a converstation with all of the roadies at work with no animosity between us, granted they still think I'm crazy for doing what I do.
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hipfan posted 18 weeks ago.
RyanWeeg- I was just joking about throwing the roadies into the lake. I think all of the responces on this thread were tounge in cheek. That's what I like about Trifuel is that there are not alot of people here that take things too seriously. Sorry to have offended you.
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caeagle16 posted 18 weeks ago.
I still think triathletes are much more accepting than roadies, IMHO. I think they're just jealous we can kick their butts in a TT.... after swimming and then we can still run them into the ground
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jonovision_man posted 18 weeks ago.
caeagle16 wrote:
I still think triathletes are much more accepting than roadies, IMHO.
Absolutely.
Maybe it's because of the nature of the racing? The kind of person who is drawn to the dog-eat-dog road racing scene is going to be a bit more combative in the first place. It's a lot different from racing against a clock.
My other theory is that triathletes all understand newbie-ism better, since almost nobody lines up for their first race confident in all 3 disciplines... they usually have background in one or two, and are just picking up the other(s).
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theShiba posted 18 weeks ago.
Next time you should give the back wheel a bit of a bump...
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Sully800 posted 18 weeks ago.
Unfortunately hitting the back wheel will do little to the other guy, and drastically affect your own steering.
As most people agree, you will run into some jerks out there and maybe more of them are roadies because of the competitive attitude, but cyclists in general are pretty friendly, especially to one another. If you have a bad experience don't let it get to you or affect the way you look at roadies during your next ride. You have to try and avoid the bad experiences and at the same time make riding enjoyable for everyone else you meet, so forget about the jerks because they aren't worth your time.
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TryScott posted 18 weeks ago.
I would be able to tolerate the jerks more if I was faster than them. Someday I'll be "the dude on a crappy bike with baggy shorts and a cotton t-shirt, that I can't drop on a hill."
Just an unusual experience I had to day. I have ridden in groups before and I know this account is not even close to normal behavior by roadies. All my cyclist friends are roadies and I love taking my road bike out and riding in a group.
I was doing a time trial at a flat 2 lane, one way, loop with zero traffic on my tri bike. There were several pelotons out that day. I was passed by one peloton that was pulling the usual 24mph. Which passed me quickly with no problem, pretty much what I am use to. I was nearing the end of time trial when a slow moving peloton starts creeping up on me. I was a bit surprised since their pace was pretty slow for a peloton on a pancake flat course. I was pulling 21mph into a mild head wind, and they were barely going faster. When the leaders passed me, 2 cyclists both pulled directly in front of me and briefly laid in to their brakes (tire was 2 inches in front). I quickly switched to the base bar and moved pretty close to the curb on the right to avoid overlap. Despite being a zero traffic one way two lane road they boxed me in next to the curb. A few other guys made passing comments about the tri bike. Meanwhile I am thinking what is going on?
I have never seen a group of cyclists act like this. Has anybody else been in a similar experience?