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tsilcyc posted 7 weeks ago.
This is a plan from this site...
http://www.trifuel.com/triathlon-training/Sprint-Triathlon-Training.php
Bricks are simple, bike for an hour and then immediately follow it up with a 20 minute run. Neither have to be fast, it's just to get your body used to the quick transition and allow it to adapt to running on tired legs. You can search on bricks and find more info. You'll find much info on them.
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cutiger95 posted 7 weeks ago.
Well I don't have much to ad but to say welcome to the forum. I am targeting my first triathlon for Sept as well and it looks similar except a shorter swim.
From what I can tell and what I am told, survival of the first is important and worrying about time in transition yadda yadda yadda, really isn't that important unless you are shooting for a specific time.
Now what I found after coming from a running and biking background. The run and bike will be simple to train for, the swim, well that is another story. If you haven't gotten in the water and tried to swim I would advise that you do so. The muscles it uses, the technique you have to use. All are critical. When studying up and being coached so far, I can tell you unlike the other two disciplines the swim to survive is 25% endurance, 75% technique. Now to get fast I think the endurance goes up as a percentage. But this was tough for me to understand at first and I thought I could just jump in the water and power through. Two months after starting I have just gotten to the 300 m mark. Now I only get 1 and sometimes 2 days of pool time due to location and time of the pool but still. I can run 8 miles and bike 30 without hesitation.
But at any rate welcome to the starter club, glad to see someone else trying to figure out this crazy sport. I love it so far and it is a huge pride builder, as I gain confidence with each new milestone broken. It is even spilling over into my everyday life. Not that I needed anymore arrogance but hey it is nice to be confident in oneself.
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advobwhite posted 7 weeks ago.
so, bricks are to get your legs conditioned to running while tired? would mini triathlons, like half of what the race is be advised? or just bricks?
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StephenPDennis posted 7 weeks ago.
I'll leave the sage advice to the more experienced athletes in the forum but, personally, I think bricks were the best race day prep I did. Is it an open water swim? If so, try and get a swim in because that was a huge psyche-out for me.
I've only done one sprint so far and it was one of the best experiences of my life, welcome to the sport, just so you know - this forum demands updates on your progress, it helps us all learn and get excited!
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tsilcyc posted 7 weeks ago.
advobwhite wrote:
so, bricks are to get your legs conditioned to running while tired? would mini triathlons, like half of what the race is be advised? or just bricks?
Yes. This will give you an opportunity to practice transitions. Setup your gear as if you were going to do the event. If possible, practice where the event will take place. This way on race day, you'll already be familiar with the environment.
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jsk85 posted 7 weeks ago.
advobwhite wrote:
so, bricks are to get your legs conditioned to running while tired? would mini triathlons, like half of what the race is be advised? or just bricks?
Bricks and mini-simulation tris are good every now and again, but don't start doing them every day or even every week as a regular workout. They should be put in more sparingly to the training program since constantly doing them would be asking for injury
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advobwhite posted 7 weeks ago.
ah, gotcha. how do i set up a transition? i saw an expert village video on youtube, but i don't take alot of stock in expert village. and its an open water swim in the gulf of mexico, or the sound if its not safe to swim in the gulf. should i focus on distances or times when doing my workouts? i need an 8 week program, all i've been able to find are 13 weeks and more. how would i condense that to 8 weeks, with a focus on improving swimming more than anything? i wanna train hard, but limit overtraining, which would happen to me quickly since i've never done anything this intense.
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beads1985 posted 7 weeks ago.
Congrats for making the jump into triathlon.
I wouldn't wait to start training. Get some base work in so you are ready to train.
If you can get a couple of bricks in great if not I wouldn't worry about it so much for a sprint tri.
You do want to work on your swim technique. With good technique you will get the speed.
If you are traveling bring your running shoes and clothes; and swimming goggles and swim shorts.
I have been on the road on and off for a few weeks and I am getting in some runs and doing pushups to keep up my fitness levels. A couple of the hotels have gyms and pools and I was able to get in a few swims and workouts.
If you are flexible and prepared you can get some good workouts and training while you are on the road. I look at it like a little adventure in every place I go.
see the 'Beads Traveling Running Road Show' thread. ;-)
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advobwhite posted 7 weeks ago.
i'm running and doing alot of stationary biking right now, i don't have a good bike, but am getting my first DECENT road bike within a few weeks(i'm probly going for a 7.2fx, i know its a hybrid, but i'm on a budget), and swimming when i can, which isn't very often now, but on the 10th, i'll be back in town for good and will have a set schedule to work out. is the 0 to a mile swim routine that helps you swim a mile in 6 weeks something that i should start off with for my swim?
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trigirltina2 posted 7 weeks ago.
cutiger95 wrote:
Well I don't have much to ad but to say welcome to the forum. I am targeting my first triathlon for Sept as well and it looks similar except a shorter swim.From what I can tell and what I am told, survival of the first is important and worrying about time in transition yadda yadda yadda, really isn't that important unless you are shooting for a specific time.
Now what I found after coming from a running and biking background. The run and bike will be simple to train for, the swim, well that is another story. If you haven't gotten in the water and tried to swim I would advise that you do so. The muscles it uses, the technique you have to use. All are critical. When studying up and being coached so far, I can tell you unlike the other two disciplines the swim to survive is 25% endurance, 75% technique. Now to get fast I think the endurance goes up as a percentage. But this was tough for me to understand at first and I thought I could just jump in the water and power through. Two months after starting I have just gotten to the 300 m mark. Now I only get 1 and sometimes 2 days of pool time due to location and time of the pool but still. I can run 8 miles and bike 30 without hesitation.
But at any rate welcome to the starter club, glad to see someone else trying to figure out this crazy sport. I love it so far and it is a huge pride builder, as I gain confidence with each new milestone broken. It is even spilling over into my everyday life. Not that I needed anymore arrogance but hey it is nice to be confident in oneself.
worrying about time in transition yadda yadda yadda, really isn't that important unless you are shooting for a specific time.
Sorry it helps reach a specific time, but it also helps you get to the bike and the run. You become a rocket on race day and not the scientist. as you come out of the swim you should be thinking what to do next...as you come off the bike you need to think about the run... In tranisition you have your own area or you can loose your stuff to a race official. You rack your bike the same way it was rack and there are ways to enter and exit from the rack. Your area is on the side where the majority of your bike is .. Some races will tell left or right side of your bike and some do not.
I am all for helping a newbie on the rack if it means my space is not going to be interrupted during the race. (ie someone's wet suit on my rack where the bike goes or someone moved my bike, which is against the rules)
Simple....Race day excitiement swimming, biking and running all together for the first time is an incredible expeirence, and I wish you the best! It is a huge confidence builder in life and the community is the best part! As, a friend though practice all parts of the race.
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trigirltina2 posted 7 weeks ago.
advobwhite wrote:
ah, gotcha. how do i set up a transition? i saw an expert village video on youtube, but i don't take alot of stock in expert village. and its an open water swim in the gulf of mexico, or the sound if its not safe to swim in the gulf. should i focus on distances or times when doing my workouts? i need an 8 week program, all i've been able to find are 13 weeks and more. how would i condense that to 8 weeks, with a focus on improving swimming more than anything? i wanna train hard, but limit overtraining, which would happen to me quickly since i've never done anything this intense.
Transition area.. Our coach can spend hours on traisitons here is a highlight: (coming in from swim)
Have a towel foled in half or the mat from your tri bag (hand towel)
at the front of the towel are bike shoes (on top of your shoes first is what you are wearing on the race that has your number attached to it or your race belt)
in each shoe on top is your socks rolled so you can slip your feet into them (if you choose to run barefoot, this is practiced first and not attempted at the first race with out it)
Depending on your helmet it is on your bike secure upside down, so you can put it on first- buckle and continue to get ready, or on top of the shoes.
the next roll is your run shoes (with yanks or easylaces on) with a running hat on top and your running bottle to take in hand.
the next roll to the back is your bag you carried all your crap in-and wear you will put your wetsuit wadded up after you do the wetsuit dance.
All contained in your space (please make sure not to invade your neighbors space)
Food and gels.. these are on your bike, on top of either shoes so you grab it. Perhaps, like me an extra pair of contacts or my glasses depending on how the swim went.
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trigirltina2 posted 7 weeks ago.
advobwhite wrote:
so, bricks are to get your legs conditioned to running while tired? would mini triathlons, like half of what the race is be advised? or just bricks?
Minimum 20 min run after you come off a bike ride. Don't practice just bricks.
Look under the training tab and read anything you put your hands on.
Happy training.
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trigirltina2 posted 7 weeks ago.
And the big thing I learned over the years. Make sure to train past race distance and not up to race distance.
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advobwhite posted 7 weeks ago.
bike bags recommended for food/snack? and are wetsuits required? i won't be wearing one. and also are bike shorts required as well? i'm more comfortable in regular athletic shorts or board shorts. are these allowed?
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theShiba posted 7 weeks ago.
advobwhite wrote:
bike bags recommended for food/snack? and are wetsuits required? i won't be wearing one. and also are bike shorts required as well? i'm more comfortable in regular athletic shorts or board shorts. are these allowed?
It depends...
Does your race fall under the USATFP rules? That's USATFP, USA Triathlon Fashion Police
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kylie posted 7 weeks ago.
shiba was kidding... basically saying it's a fashion crime to wear those things.
But you can wear whatever you want. Just make sure you can swim, bike, and run in it (or make the changes without stripping down since there will be no changing area). I did my first tri in a bathing suit under a pair of cheapo running shorts and a cotton tank top. Worked just fine, and I built up my gear stockpile after knowing it was something I wanted to do more of.
Wetsuits will depend on the water temperature. I'm not sure what race this is, but their site probably says if they are required or recommended or even not allowed (if the water is really warm).
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advobwhite posted 7 weeks ago.
florida in october, the water isn't that cold..........i'll be lucky if its in the mid 70's.
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Socket posted 7 weeks ago.
Mid 70s? That sounds nice. You can skip the wetsuit with that.
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iamtb13 posted 7 weeks ago.
theShiba wrote:
advobwhite wrote:ah, okay. i'll check.yeah, j/k...
Be nice to the first timers!! ;) Feel free to pick on everyone else though - I find it amusing!
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advobwhite posted 7 weeks ago.
okay, so....swimcap and goggles really necessary? and i might get the tri shorts because the guy was telling me they are awesome against chaffing, which i always have troubles with. also, any tips on getting used to the pedals w/ the place for my feet? i went to test ride bikes and couldn't get it in. i guess i just have to practice. and running belt i guess is necessary since i won't have a shirt on? anything i'm forgetting?
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overcome posted 7 weeks ago.
You need goggles. A swimcap is usually provided by the race. Tri shorts are good. I got a tri suit from REI for about 30 dollars that was regular 95. If you have an REI in your area check the clearance section there. What type of pedals are you using? Make sure to check the race rules to see if they allow you to race shirtless. At some races it is not allowed. If at all possible do some practice swims in open water.
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StephenPDennis posted 7 weeks ago.
I have already completed one sprint in toe-cage pedals and am not planning on picking up clip-ins this year. I know that they are very important but I just don't have the money to invest in them. I also came in 12th out of 65 AG on my sprint so while clip-ins are important I think my cages are doing me just fine for now....
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kylie posted 6 weeks ago.
Yeah just practice for the pedals. I have a hard time with those as well. If they are the kind you can loosen the cage of, try making it nice and loose so that it's easy to get your foot in.
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so, i'm gonna do my first triathlon. its a 600 yd swim, 18 mi bike, and 3.1 mi run. the running and biking i have no problem doing them, as i can run a steady 5 or so miles at a steady(albeit slow) pace, and i've always been a strong biker....the swimming is gonna kill me. i know running 3.1 miles after the bike and swim is gonna be tough, and was told that i should be able to run at least 6 or so miles to be able to do it. here is my question....i'm getting in really late on this and just wanna finish, not looking for an amazing time, as i'm still getting into the shape i once was and wanna add variety to my program(which to this point has consisted of weights and interval conditioning, but not long endurance training till recently).
my questions are: Due to trips out of town and other circumstances, I'll start training on Aug 10, and the race is on Oct 4. I need a good program for that amount of time. i was told to do bricks but i don't know how to implement them. any help would be appreciated....also, i'm coming to understand that the transition is very important...any tips on that would be helpful.
sorry for the long rambling post, but looking forward to any insight and can't wait till race day!