So what the heck happend to me? Dehydrated or overhydrated?
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jtrimom posted 8 weeks ago.
not to threadjack, or anything- but it kind of goes with it- do the enduralytes allow you to drink as much water as you want/need if you take the recommended amt? B/c I find I drink a ton of water/ sports drink while I am biking/running in this Houston heat
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trigirltina2 posted 8 weeks ago.
brittda wrote:
I have been trying to figure out what happend to me, and now I will just ask the experts.As some of you know I did Pacific Crest HIM last week. My swim was ok, my bike was ok but it was hot- 90's(hot for me because I think our warmest training weather MAY have hit 70). On the bike I took Enduralytes (recommended amt) which I have used in the past with no problems,and drank a lot--like as much as I did on my last full IM, but because it was hot, I was thirsty. I had to pee one time but mostly because I had to pee going into the swim and could not bring myself to relax and do it in the water. So on the run, I continued with the enduralytes and took one water and one electrolyte drink at each water stop (1 mile appart or so). Now, I could not pee. NOTHING tried a couple of times, but my tummy was bloated and really hurt making running painful. Did not pee (ok, or the other "big potty" since this info may help) for nearly 2 days after even though I was drinking like crazy.
Was I over-hydrated (doubt it) or dehydrated?????? I have not experienced this before and just want to avoid it for the future since it ruined my run :(
Any ideas? Has this happened to any of you? Sorry if the above contained TMI .....[/quote}Retaining fulid.. not enough in the tank to start. I'm not a doctor, but practice a lot with fulid and salt tabs.
I take 2 salt tabs every 1/2 hour on the bike (Olympic distance) and I drink three 16 oz water on the bike. (I don't gage on milage as I do time) Very little water on the run to much gets the water in the tummy moving. I carry a bottle though to pur on my head and swish in the mouth. IM training I'm thinking increase across the board. Not everyone has the same assumulation or all the technically words.. I'm sure you'll get more feed back.
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sheracr posted 8 weeks ago.
New on the forum (hi).
Found myself very interested in your problem (and sorry to hear about it), especially as I am starting myself to try to figure out use of Enduralytes and such. I've heard of not peeing for a few hours, but not a few days; hopefully your system has returned to normal. Did a little research and came up with some info you may find useful. w/o knowing more, it seems you may have overhydrated, and the article is a little scary ... but check it out: http://www.ultracycling.com/nutrition/drinking_too_much.html
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kylie posted 8 weeks ago.
Do you train with the endurolytes? I believe I read a similar thing somewhere and they determined it was in part due to too many endurolytes.
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jtrimom posted 8 weeks ago.
okay, that's scary! I always drink if and when I am thirsty, but then what are the enduralytes for? I am so confused- can anyone clarify- or does one really need to do the whole (math)sweat test? what if on some days I sweat more than on others?
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overcome posted 8 weeks ago.
Did you drink really cold water? I have found that if I drink cold water (strait out of the refrigerator) after being out in the heat my stomach will be in pain.
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brittda posted 8 weeks ago.
kylie wrote:
Do you train with the endurolytes? I believe I read a similar thing somewhere and they determined it was in part due to too many endurolytes.
Yes when it is hot out. Unfortunately we had not had weather like this here yet this season. I have also raced with them (IMC last August for example) with no problems either. I felt ok other wise, but I looked 9 months pregnant (ahaha) and my tummy hurt to run :( .
The water was what they handed out on the course, so no, not really cold.
Could be what the article sheracr posted. I had sweat a LOT so thought nothing of drinking up since I was taking in both water and a sports drink. UGGG
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KitKat posted 8 weeks ago.
Do you know what your sweat rate is? Do you know how many oz of water you consumed and approx how much sodium/potassium was consumed? This are really the only way to know the answer to your question.
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toni posted 8 weeks ago.
How much did you drink on the bike? And before the race? Did you have any edema?
To me, comparing it to what I've seen in the hospital, it sounds like dehydration and possible acute renal failure (decreased renal perfusion). Without kidney perfusion, no wastes are going to be excreted. It's obviously fixed itself, but you might want to get it checked out at the MD's office. Get a urinalyisis and a complete metabolic panel done. That will tell you if you did sustain some renal issues. It would have been most telling if you had it done the day after.
If that's not it, then perhaps you did overhydrate. But only drinking one cup every mile with some endurolytes, your ratio might have been off for the distance. You might not have hydrated enough on the bike to lead to a better run.
After looking at my nursing physiology books, oliguria (low urine output) can be caused by dehydration and hypernatremia (too much sodium). No where did I see it mention oliguria or anything kidney related with fluid overload....
Hope this helps.
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M posted 8 weeks ago.
Could you have had too much salt/electrolytes? Maybe the recommended amount just wasn't quite right for you (or for you on that day for whatever reason)? I'm just thinking that your body might have been hanging on to all that water in an attempt to get the salt/electrolytes down to what it thought was a normal concentration. At least at first; then maybe after the race your system was just having a hard time sorting things out?
Just a thought. I hope you can get to the bottom of it, and good job on the race in tough conditions!
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TryScott posted 8 weeks ago.
I'm curious to know how much your body weight changed during the race. I'm sure if you knew, you would of included that information...
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brittda posted 8 weeks ago.
TryScott wrote:
I'm curious to know how much your body weight changed during the race. I'm sure if you knew, you would of included that information...
No unfottunately, because I was out of town and not at home I did not have access to my scale. Typically I will weigh myself after a work out in heat to gage my intake. I do hot yoga almost daily and always hydrate before and drink at least 32 oz of watrer during class. I will typically loose 3-5 pound in 90 minutes so I would think I hadn't taken in too much. Maybe my body was just "off" that day.
Thank you all for your feedback! I guess I can chalk it up to a learning experience and maybe document intakes better when I do have the opportunity to train in heat like that. I know for IMC last year we actually drove to the Eastern Wa to train where it was hotter but we just didnt get the opportunity this time.
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KitKat posted 8 weeks ago.
brittda wrote:
Typically I will weigh myself after a work out in heat to gage my intake. I do hot yoga almost daily and always hydrate before and drink at least 32 oz of watrer during class. I will typically loose 3-5 pound in 90 minutes so I would think I hadn't taken in too much.
Oh hun, no clue how much you weigh but 3-5 lbs in 90 minutes is too much too drop, not really healthy. I'd probably considering upping your electrolytes.
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toni posted 8 weeks ago.
KitKat wrote:
Oh hun, no clue how much you weigh but 3-5 lbs in 90 minutes is too much too drop, not really healthy. I'd probably considering upping your electrolytes.
She's losing water weight, which leaves her dehydrated. If you read above, she's taking in too many electrolytes and not enough water. If she were drinking more water, she wouldn't have lost so much weight during her 90 mins of exercise prior to the race, as well as during the race.
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M posted 8 weeks ago.
If you are a regular with the hot yoga (and have been doing it for a while), your body has probably adapted to getting that hot and you probably lose fewer electrolytes in your sweat than you used to (and fewer than most people for whom electrolyte replacement guidelines are written). So you really may have been replacing more than you were losing and things just got off balance. You may be on to an interesting idea---hot yoga to help offset the lack of opportunity to train in heat.
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KitKat posted 8 weeks ago.
toni wrote:
KitKat wrote:Oh hun, no clue how much you weigh but 3-5 lbs in 90 minutes is too much too drop, not really healthy. I'd probably considering upping your electrolytes.She's losing water weight, which leaves her dehydrated. If you read above, she's taking in too many electrolytes and not enough water. If she were drinking more water, she wouldn't have lost so much weight during her 90 mins of exercise prior to the race, as well as during the race.
Toni, RN, BSN
Obviously I had missed something. I was aware she was losing water weight, anything else wouldn't make sense. I just figured (should have read) that her water wasn't balanced with enough sodium.
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bluebirdbiker posted 8 weeks ago.
Britt, it was likely that you went into the event dehydrated. Toni is right.
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I have been trying to figure out what happend to me, and now I will just ask the experts.
As some of you know I did Pacific Crest HIM last week. My swim was ok, my bike was ok but it was hot- 90's(hot for me because I think our warmest training weather MAY have hit 70). On the bike I took Enduralytes (recommended amt) which I have used in the past with no problems,and drank a lot--like as much as I did on my last full IM, but because it was hot, I was thirsty. I had to pee one time but mostly because I had to pee going into the swim and could not bring myself to relax and do it in the water. So on the run, I continued with the enduralytes and took one water and one electrolyte drink at each water stop (1 mile appart or so). Now, I could not pee. NOTHING tried a couple of times, but my tummy was bloated and really hurt making running painful. Did not pee (ok, or the other "big potty" since this info may help) for nearly 2 days after even though I was drinking like crazy.
Was I over-hydrated (doubt it) or dehydrated?????? I have not experienced this before and just want to avoid it for the future since it ruined my run :(
Any ideas? Has this happened to any of you? Sorry if the above contained TMI .....