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started by Socket on July 3, 2008

While I'm swimming in the pool, I have this nice big black line that tells me what a straight line is. Not so much in open water. Apparently I have a tendency to swim to my right; not just drift over, but after 30-40 seconds I've made a 90 degree turn.

I don't have any convenient access to open water to practice in during the week, so is there something I can do in the pool to help straighten me out?

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RV posted 8 weeks ago.

Close your eyes - just not near the end of the lane - and only if NOT sharing the lane.
You will swim into the lane ropes as you veer off - so gives a little clue that your stroke is off balanced and trigger to correct. It is disorienting tho.

Tho in OW currents etc will also affect.

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ChunkyB posted 8 weeks ago.

Swim with your eyes closed. Only do this if you're in your own lane, and if you get off track then you'll just hit the rope anyways and no harm done. It feels really weird at first, but you'll get used to it. I'm the same way, and I've been trying this lately, and it seems to help.

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Iron Dan posted 8 weeks ago.

It has helped me to swim with my eyes closed. I keep an internal clock going so I don't smack into the end of the pool.

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RV posted 8 weeks ago.

ChunkyB wrote:
Swim with your eyes closed. Only do this if you're in your own lane, and if you get off track then you'll just hit the rope anyways and no harm done. It feels really weird at first, but you'll get used to it. I'm the same way, and I've been trying this lately, and it seems to help.

Wish I said that!

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jsk85 posted 8 weeks ago.

To sum up what has been said...it seems like swimming with your eyes closed would help

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ChunkyB posted 8 weeks ago.

RV wrote:
ChunkyB wrote:
Swim with your eyes closed. Only do this if you're in your own lane, and if you get off track then you'll just hit the rope anyways and no harm done. It feels really weird at first, but you'll get used to it. I'm the same way, and I've been trying this lately, and it seems to help.

Wish I said that!

HAHA. Curse you RV. I need to type faster.

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Socket posted 8 weeks ago.

I thought that maybe swimming with my eyes closed could help. Too bad nobody mentioned it; must not be a good idea ;-P

Thanks everybody!

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trigirltina2 posted 8 weeks ago.

I close my eyes. If you know your number of strokes, you can time the turn right a the end.
Take your mind off the black line or swim on one side of the line.

When you get to open water, you would have already checked out the swim course to spot any land marks to use as a gudie.

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trigirltina2 posted 8 weeks ago.

Heck-I was working and everyone posted. See I am in the right spot everyone agreed with me.

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kylie posted 8 weeks ago.

I've always heard try swimming with your eyes closed and just hitting the lane line if you are off is a good method :-P

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TriOnLife posted 8 weeks ago.

I prefer my triathlon swims to look like this:

cllick for the full story

Then again, I heard that swimming with your eyes closed helps you swim in a straight line.

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JDB posted 8 weeks ago.

You can definitely practice your open water sighting in the pool WITH YOUR EYES OPEN.

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StephenPDennis posted 8 weeks ago.

Hahaha, great thread. Hey Socket- I think you were at the Gold Coast this year, right? Maybe you saw me, I was guy who almost made it to Connecticut after the first buoy.... I've been thinking that might be a useful adaptation for long course swimmers like me!
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chris91180 posted 8 weeks ago.

trigirltina2 wrote:
I close my eyes. If you know your number of strokes, you can time the turn right a the end.

If you don't know your stroke count, you can just wear your bike helmet!

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kylie posted 8 weeks ago.

or you can still hit it with your eyes open and decide it just doesn't matter! ;)

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RV posted 8 weeks ago.

trigirltina2 wrote:
Heck-I was working and everyone posted. See I am in the right spot everyone agreed with me.

Wow 37 posts in one day - In a few months you'll have even out post Kylie! ;)

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trigirltina2 posted 8 weeks ago.

RV wrote:
trigirltina2 wrote:
Heck-I was working and everyone posted. See I am in the right spot everyone agreed with me.

Wow 37 posts in one day - In a few months you'll have even out post Kylie! ;)

I thought yesterday! But, it was a slow day at the bank.

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kylie posted 8 weeks ago.

HA! It's ok... no one will ever catch beads ;)

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trigirltina2 posted 8 weeks ago.

kylie wrote:
HA! It's ok... no one will ever catch beads ;)

Not that I'm drving to LA, but you are about 2 hours from me. Have you trained at all in San Diego? or just LA?

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Leroy Bonkers posted 8 weeks ago.

So one way to 'go straight' is to not cross over when you breathe. Everybody thinks they are not crossing over until someone watches and says "gee, you cross over". Then it's like "are you sure? I don't feel like I'm crossing over".

You can also place your pull bouy on the deck at one end and practice sighting. It's sight first, then turn and breathe... not breathe first then look forward.

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Carlos Mx posted 8 weeks ago.

I still remember the day when in a 5K open water swim, I was so far off that an helicopter and two boats went for me to show me the way to the finish line. I was probably going for China (or maybe Kona)

Swimming with your eyes closed is not easy and you can get hurt. I suggest practicing sighting in your pool drills, lifting your head every 8-10 strokes. When in a race, I try sighting but also swimming with the school, you can't get lost that way. We've all learned that we should swim like fish.

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kylie posted 8 weeks ago.

trigirltina2 wrote:
kylie wrote:
HA! It's ok... no one will ever catch beads ;)

Not that I'm drving to LA, but you are about 2 hours from me. Have you trained at all in San Diego? or just LA?

I sometimes bike down to San Diego, or have trained down there while there visiting friends or there for work (once a year). Perhaps next time I ride from here down (and then usually take the train back) you could start riding up and we'd meet somewhere in the middle and ride together a bit :)

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Socket posted 8 weeks ago.

TriOnLife wrote:
I prefer my triathlon swims to look like this:

That's pretty much what my swim looked like :-)

I always have one arm out front, so I don't worry about hitting the wall. I may get tangled in the lane rope like a fish in a net though ;-) Probably need to sight more often, but if I can sight just as often and still end up in a straight line that'd be good.

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TriOnLife posted 8 weeks ago.

Just for the record - that was my first Olympic distance event (Wildflower) and my goggles were fogged up and I just wouldn't stop to clear them. Also, I was thinking the course went in a square (as does the Long Course swim) so in addition to not being able to see, I had the wrong image of the course in my head.

So another recommendation I'd make is to make sure you know where the buoys are before you start the swim. It really helps! :-)

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trigirltina2 posted 7 weeks ago.

kylie wrote:
trigirltina2 wrote:
kylie wrote:
HA! It's ok... no one will ever catch beads ;)

Not that I'm drving to LA, but you are about 2 hours from me. Have you trained at all in San Diego? or just LA?

I sometimes bike down to San Diego, or have trained down there while there visiting friends or there for work (once a year). Perhaps next time I ride from here down (and then usually take the train back) you could start riding up and we'd meet somewhere in the middle and ride together a bit :)

I will plan on doing that... Proably not till fall.

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trigirltina2 posted 7 weeks ago.

TriOnLife wrote:
Just for the record - that was my first Olympic distance event (Wildflower) and my goggles were fogged up and I just wouldn't stop to clear them. Also, I was thinking the course went in a square (as does the Long Course swim) so in addition to not being able to see, I had the wrong image of the course in my head.

So another recommendation I'd make is to make sure you know where the buoys are before you start the swim. It really helps! :-)

This goes with the warm up part of the swim to know where you are going to sight! Congrads on Wildflower.

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beads1985 posted 7 weeks ago.

Socket wrote:
While I'm swimming in the pool, I have this nice big black line that tells me what a straight line is. Not so much in open water. Apparently I have a tendency to swim to my right; not just drift over, but after 30-40 seconds I've made a 90 degree turn.

I don't have any convenient access to open water to practice in during the week, so is there something I can do in the pool to help straighten me out?

If nothing else works out, 'Use the Force Socket'

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beads1985 posted 7 weeks ago.

kylie wrote:
HA! It's ok... no one will ever catch beads ;)

You think I write a lot? It is a lot less then I talk!! ;-)
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Anton posted 7 weeks ago.

I've never swum with Beads...but I suspect he'd try to keep up the snappy repartie every time his mouth would leave the water...;)

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kylie posted 7 weeks ago.

I've never swum with Beads, but I have still heard him talking during his swims -- from across the country! :)

And I never made any claims about how much you talk or write... just that you have more posts than the rest of people here combined ;)

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jtrimom posted 7 weeks ago.

you are so gaining on him, though, Kylie