Cold water swim aids
Hey, I did my HIM this weekend in 64 with a sleeveless suit and it was PERFECT. I did get a pair of those booties though,and they helped a TON. $20 is a good deal if you can get your hands on them. I personally wouldnt want vaseline on my feet or anything else, it will stick with you for the rest of the race.
brittda +1, over the winter I swam in lake mead 55-56 degrees... at first the hands and feet feel like they're going to fall off, but after they get numb it's all good. 65 is down right balmy, you should be good to go. Besides, you'll warm up right away when you get going. Unless of course you're one of them peeps that has a body fat< 5% , in that case I'd say to wear 2 wetsuits.
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Im a greyhound. Id never heard of this before so figured it would be worth the post to see or not. I can handle the cold but yah never know. Always looking for the competitive advantage if its tried and true yah know.
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You won't need anything for swimming in Lake Michigan. I've been doing open water swims in Chicago for nearly a month now and it feels plenty warm (even without the wetsuit). There is a huge difference in temperatures from 54 deg when I started to the current 63-65. You'll be fine with a sleeveless and won't need vaseline or booties to handle the cold.
If you're not used to it though, 63-65 can feel pretty cold. It's all relative. I agree you'll be OK with a sleeveless wetsuit.
Well my feet get cold easily...heck I still tromp out in my uggs even now when the temps are below 60. So for me the booties were helpful.
Actually I use Glide instead of the vaseline. Same principle but wetsuits and vaseline don't play nicely together. It make a difference.
Having just suffered in the 59.5 degree water in CDA I was glad to have hat the neoprene hat and booties. They helped to stave off the bitter cold a bit, but I still felt cold even 3/4 of the way into that swim despite all the moving and battling that was going on. Granted I have poor circulation and I have a body composition that just doesn't retain a lot of heat (I think I'm going to incorporate more french fries to my diet to work on that). Still I agree with brittda, the booties (if allowed) and the hat are good aids.
Can you go for a practice swim and see how you go?
Sports Shield works nicer with the wet suit, but Body Glide is cool too! Sleeves or not - personal choice, but coach says full suit if your swimming and they are allowed. The man has done over 230 triathlons and yes he was with the group on the scraed ground of Fiesta Island when triathlon came into existence. Lots to read on wet suits.
You loose heat out of your head. A neoprene hood or two swim caps. No booties.. if you are cold. I will post some pics of the team on a cold winter am...
You loose heat out of your head. A neoprene hood or two swim caps. No booties.. if you are cold. I will post some pics of the team on a cold winter am...
Just out of curiosity, why no booties?
I found them to keep my slightly warmer than I would have been without them. I found them to be quite beneficial, especially when you have a long way to run to transition when there is a lot of debris.
I heard booties take away your propulsion from your feet. Your kick becomes almost useless with booties. I haven't tried it myself but that is what I've heard from people who tried them.
I would also avoid vaseline just because it's bad for the neoprene.
The best way to go is a 3mm neoprene cap under your swim cap.
+ a million on the neoprene cap. I wore one in my last race and I loved it. Not only was it a lot warmer on my head (which is the most important, IMO) but it kind of drowns out all the noise from everyone else. It really helped me to stay inside myself and just keep swimming.
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I heard booties take away your propulsion from your feet. Your kick becomes almost useless with booties. I haven't tried it myself but that is what I've heard from people who tried them.
Maybe that is why I didn't mind them, my feet just kind of float uselessly when I swim anyway.
trigirltina2 wrote:You loose heat out of your head. A neoprene hood or two swim caps. No booties.. if you are cold. I will post some pics of the team on a cold winter am...Just out of curiosity, why no booties?
I found them to keep my slightly warmer than I would have been without them. I found them to be quite beneficial, especially when you have a long way to run to transition when there is a lot of debris.
More stuff to take off in the transition area. the concern is your head to keep the warmth in. Booties are not going to do that. Tuffen the feet up. Drag on the feet. It is important to go over the race course prior to teh event to scoap it out. Chances the area from the water to transition has been cleared from the race crew. Besides, my coach says no and I listen.
deepbluex wrote:I heard booties take away your propulsion from your feet. Your kick becomes almost useless with booties. I haven't tried it myself but that is what I've heard from people who tried them.
Maybe that is why I didn't mind them, my feet just kind of float uselessly when I swim anyway.
I had no problem with them at all. I don't kick much anyway in a tri so I did not notice a thing. They certainly didn't drag me down. I practiced swimming with them at home first though. They only take seconds to take off, but I would not waste time with them in anything less than a HIM (but then I wouldnt probably wear a wetsuit for anything less either..personal choice)
65 is actually pretty reasonable temperature for open-water swimming and most athletes are fine in a sleeveless wetsuit at that temperature. At around 65, I get too hot in my full-sleeve and have to start using my sleeveless suit. A neoprene hat is a great thing for keeping the cold water out of your ears and keeping your head warmer. It also helps with that initial shock of getting in. I personally wouldn't use booties, as I think they mess too much with the kick.
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65 - you'll be fine - if its above 60, its fine. I'm one of those people who is always always cold (ie I wear a fleece when its below 80) and I survived 53 degrees in Vancouver at worlds with a full wetsuit but no neoprene cap and the itu doesn't allow booties or gloves...












Im racing the Firecracker Tri in Benton Harbor Mi. this Sunday. The swim will be in Lake Michigan and its supposed to be around 65 degrees. I have a sleeveless wetsuit and I read here recently sometime that a thin layer of vasaline to your feet, hands, helps somewhat to retain body heat or at least keep it a little more insulated...is that true? Thanks in advance...