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started by Trisport on June 30, 2008

One of the water bottle stations along the Philly Tri bike loop had squeeze bottles of Gatorade Endurance.

On my second loop I eyed one up, snagged a bottle of Orange Gatorade Endurance, and was very excited to slurp some down. I twisted the green top open with my teeth, took a hard squeeze and...NOTHING CAME OUT!

This was quite possibly the most deflating racing moment I've ever had. Out of breath I turned my head back and screamed "you didn't f%#*ing open the bottle!" Another wise ass further down the aid station even yelled back and said "Sorry".

Now, I had to manage my way through a technical decent before I could go ahead and twist the bottle cap off and remove the foil seal.

Is this standard for bottle stations? Are they not allowed to remove the foil seal's from Gatorade? Or did I just run into some moron who forgot.

You gotta show love and respect to the race volunteers, without them we wouldn't be able to race, but WTF!?

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cuds posted 7 weeks ago.

At IMC last year there were people ripping them all off before the race. I'm REALLY glad I was there as a Gatorade employee and had other "duties" so I didn't have to partake in what fun that surely was haha.
Maybe that one just got missed in the masses?

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Anton posted 7 weeks ago.

You may just have gotten a missed bottle. It's happened to me before...everyone else around swilling the stuff while I'm trying to get mine open. Thanks for you're kind word about volunteers (Have YOU vol'd recently folks?) but sometimes there just aren't enough to get some things done in a timely manner...
It was just the safety on a bottle...considering all the things that can go wrong on race day, if that was your only problem, you were lucky.
BTW..swearing at or verbally accosting the volunteers can get you penalized. I'm sad too, that you feel someone apologizing for what happened is a "wise ass." Maybe they truly felt bad about it.

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tsilcyc posted 7 weeks ago.

Anton wrote:
You may just have gotten a missed bottle. It's happened to me before...everyone else around swilling the stuff while I'm trying to get mine open. Thanks for you're kind word about volunteers (Have YOU vol'd recently folks?) but sometimes there just aren't enough to get some things done in a timely manner...
It was just the safety on a bottle...considering all the things that can go wrong on race day, if that was your only problem, you were lucky.
BTW..swearing at or verbally accosting the volunteers can get you penalized. I'm sad too, that you feel someone apologizing for what happened is a "wise ass." Maybe they truly felt bad about it.

That's strange. It sounds like Anton but it doesn't look like Anton. Hmmm.

To the OP... I feel your pain but please don't abuse the volunteers. Some volunteers are actual racers, others are just regular people who know nothing abou the sport. Expect the unexpected and you will be prepared.

I did a race in May where the volunteers were handing out bottles of water without lids. Fortunately, I have an aero drink but I heard many complaints from those trying to rack open bottles.

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TryScott posted 7 weeks ago.

Trisport wrote:
This was quite possibly the most deflating racing moment I've ever had.

If that's as bad as it gets, you should consider yourself very lucky.

Instead of cursing at the volunteers, maybe you could contact the RD and let him/her know what happened. If anyone can fix it for future races, he can.

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Anton posted 7 weeks ago.

tsilcyc wrote:
"That's strange. It sounds like Anton but it doesn't look like Anton. Hmmm."

Actually That does look like me...I don't actually have size 22 feet and big flapping ears. Figured all you folks had real pics up, so I might as well join the crowd!
While we are on the subject. From the USAT:
3.3 General Conduct. At or during an event, or while at the event site, all participants must:
a. Act in compliance with these Competitive Rules;
b. Conduct themselves in a manner that is not offensive in any way to fellow participants, spectators, officials or
volunteers and is considered reasonable and acceptable in the community;
c. Treat all participants, officials, volunteers and spectators with fairness, respect and courtesy;
d. Refrain from the use of abusive language or conduct; and
e. After violating any of the Competitive Rules, report such violation to the Head Referee or retire from the
event.

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TriSooner posted 7 weeks ago.

TryScott wrote:
Trisport wrote:
This was quite possibly the most deflating racing moment I've ever had.

If that's as bad as it gets, you should consider yourself very lucky.
+1 Did that keep you from a Top 3 finish?

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jsk85 posted 7 weeks ago.

Anton wrote:
I don't actually have size 22 feet and big flapping ears.

You just turned my whole world upside down

And to OP, I'm sure it was an honest mistake...don't whine about something that miniscule to the course of the day. If you were really suffering badly enough to have needed the gatorade w/o any effort on your part you were already doing something wrong in your race strategy. Try to be thankful the volunteers are there in the firstplace so that you actually were able to recieve anything at all. As people have said before, many of them come out just to partake in some community service/volunteering and no nothing about the sport, yet still sacrifice a weekend morning to help you out.

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brittda posted 7 weeks ago.

Anton wrote:
tsilcyc wrote:
"That's strange. It sounds like Anton but it doesn't look like Anton. Hmmm."

Actually That does look like me...I don't actually have size 22 feet and big flapping ears. Figured all you folks had real pics up, so I might as well join the crowd!
While we are on the subject. From the USAT:
3.3 General Conduct. At or during an event, or while at the event site, all participants must:
a. Act in compliance with these Competitive Rules;
b. Conduct themselves in a manner that is not offensive in any way to fellow participants, spectators, officials or
volunteers and is considered reasonable and acceptable in the community;
c. Treat all participants, officials, volunteers and spectators with fairness, respect and courtesy;
d. Refrain from the use of abusive language or conduct; and
e. After violating any of the Competitive Rules, report such violation to the Head Referee or retire from the
event.


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If that is the worse thing that happens to you consider yourself lucky.

At the begining of Pacific Crest on Saturday the announcers were saying that if anyone was cought verbally abusing the volunteers or swearing at them they would be DQ'd. They went as far as to say that they would be audio/vidio recording (not sure I believe that part) the aid stations for this. At the time I thought and verbally said "What jack ass would swear at, or verbally abuse a VOLUNTEER?" Everyone in my area agreed. Well...........

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RV posted 7 weeks ago.

Ya, at most that is a MINOR inconvenience. I've had it happen to me. Gotta just roll with things.

Agree with Anton, to get a perspective - try being a volunteer - really is work.
Without the volunteers - no race.
They are volunteering to help you play. They deserve our appreciation.

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fastdog5 posted 7 weeks ago.

Referring to a volunteer as a water boy was a classy touch as well.

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ChunkyB posted 7 weeks ago.

fastdog5 wrote:
Referring to a volunteer as a water boy was a classy touch as well.

And I don't get why the guy that yelled "Sorry" is a wise ass. That seems like a normal, even civil thing to say. What else do you want them to do?

And, yeah, if that's the most deflating race moment you've ever had, then try getting 3 flats in the first race of your life. That's pretty deflating, literally and figuratively. After that, I haven't been too rattled by simple inconveniences like this in races.

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fastdog5 posted 7 weeks ago.

What about the time you caught your cape in your chainring? Messy.

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ChunkyB posted 7 weeks ago.

fastdog5 wrote:
What about the time you caught your cape in your chainring? Messy.

HAHA. Oh yeah. I forgot about that.

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Ironmom posted 7 weeks ago.

+3
If that is the worse thing that happens to you consider yourself lucky.

Exactly. Try: flat tires, broken spokes, gum in the brake pads (picked up from road), pump that popped out and stuck between the spokes (over the handle bars on that one) at the bottom of a gigantic ascent, gravel on a corner (road rash on that one) on a gigantic descent, course volunteers missing from strategic corner, goggles kicked off in the swim leaving bleeding gash on cheek, toe dislocated in swim, bike knocked off of transition rack by other cyclist, spilling all fluid and bento box contents, and probably a few more that I've forgotten over the years. Racing is unpredictable. Stuff happens. Usually most competitors and certainly all volunteers are well-meaning and trying to help you have the best day possible. Be kind to them. Better than that, thank every one of them as you go by!

I'm actually surprised that the course in question had bottle stations for an Oly distance. Most don't. You're lucky they were there at all, you are pretty much supposed to carry enough fluids to get you through the bike course in almost every Oly I've ever raced (Federal Escape in Washington is the one exception I can think of).

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Triguy98 posted 7 weeks ago.

Way to be rude to the volunteers. I would have given you a piece of my mind if I had been next to you. So before you get all stupid about the race volunteers- answer me this:

Why the heck were you ustilizing an aid station on the bike during and olympic race? I can get through and Oly down here in FL on one bottle, and know people who dont use em at all. And this is a dead heat of summer race. I can understand if one is super slow that you might need to carry two. So you have two bottles on your bike. If you need more than that, you might wanna stop wasting your time bitching about what was handed to you and analyze your race strategy. Or get faster so you only need the one bottle.

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Sully800 posted 7 weeks ago.

Anton wrote:
Figured all you folks had real pics up, so I might as well join the crowd!

I would like everyone to know that I started the trend by putting up a real pic of myself...

I agree with the general opinions of the crowd here, it's unfortunate that the bottle was not open but it was almost certainly an honest mistake. That incident did not deserve chastising, but neither does making a slightly rude post on this site. I think enough people have pointed out the flaws of yelling at volunteers, no need to make an example of the OP by yelling at him as well.

Hopefully you had a good race by the end of the day if that was the only problem you had. I was at the same race, and didn't stop at the aid station but I made my own mistake: I decided to skip socks even though I was wearing brand new orthotics and I knew within half a mile of the run that it was a mistake. Ended up with 3 inch long blisters on each arch that were painful for days after the event. It was also the first time I had run more than half a mile in almost a month due to an achilles injury, so that run was generally a suffer fest. Maybe you enjoyed it more than me? ;-)

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kylie posted 7 weeks ago.

*snort* A real picture of how I see you! ;)

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RV posted 7 weeks ago.

kylie wrote:
*snort* A real picture of how I see you! ;)

Kylie - Ya know we all see you with your areo helmet on at the computer... ;)

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kylie posted 7 weeks ago.

Makes sense... I am wearing it right now. In fact, I always do if online :)

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iamtb13 posted 7 weeks ago.

You type faster with it...it's obvious.

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kylie posted 7 weeks ago.

plus on some forums it is a safety thing! ;)

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wirebook posted 6 weeks ago.

In the races I've volunteered at I had other jobs not including water bottle delivery. Out of curiosity - is there a reason one would only partially fill the bottles?

I only ask because at the Philly Tri a few weeks ago (same one as OP), I actually got a bottle filled only about 1/3rd of the way (water). It wasn't a big deal at all for me as that's all I really needed (somehow I miscalulated my sips and ended up short). Just curious though.

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theShiba posted 6 weeks ago.

I see the OP hasn't said much since they got put in their place...

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Tamara posted 6 weeks ago.

wirebook wrote:
In the races I've volunteered at I had other jobs not including water bottle delivery. Out of curiosity - is there a reason one would only partially fill the bottles?

I only ask because at the Philly Tri a few weeks ago (same one as OP), I actually got a bottle filled only about 1/3rd of the way (water). It wasn't a big deal at all for me as that's all I really needed (somehow I miscalulated my sips and ended up short). Just curious though.

Maybe to insure they didn't run out. The year I competed in the first Nation's Triathlon (duathlon, that year), they were handing out huge 20oz bottles of water at the run aid station. It looked like most folks took 3 or 4 sips and then tossed them out. But, it meant that by the time us BOP'ers got there, they had a million empty cups but no water since they'd handed out bottles rather than cups. So, maybe at Philly they were filling them all from massive jugs of water and were making sure they had sufficient water to give everyone at least some. possibly?

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