Aero Helmet for a sprint race?
I don't think anyone's gonna call you out. I was at a super-sprint last weekend (10 mile bike) and the leaders were in aero helmets, along with a few others. I won't go and get one until I feel fast enough to need one, but if you have it...I'd say wear it. Even though it may only save you seconds (if that) over that short of a course, it'd be dumb to leave the free seconds at home b/c you felt self-conscious.
Why not wear it? Who cares what anyone else thinks. Aero is aero regardless of distance.
BTW, I LIKE being THAT girl.
You bought it, use it! Maybe you can be "that guy" who gets some hardware.
I recently did a very short duathlon (2, 10, 2), and my one of my favorite parts was when I passed several people with aero helmets. Although I think the top finishers, who I was nowhere close to passing, also had aero helmets.
Personally, I'd use Charlie's post as my guide. I'm a MOP/BOP athlete. If I were gunning for the podium and that xtra few seconds might make a difference, I'd wear the aero helmet. But, since for me that extra time is the difference between 32nd and 33rd place in my AG, it seems kind of silly.
"It's very hard in the beginning to understand that the whole idea is not to beat the other runners. Eventually you learn that the competition is against the little voice inside you that wants you to quit." ~George Sheehan
You are racing yourself and the helmet gives you the edge. No reason at all to leave it at home.
"Faster would be better!" -Captain Mal, Serenity-
are you doing the ymca freedom tri?
If you accept the premise that an aero helmet is faster, and you want to go as fast as possible, I see no reason not to use it. I just don't get the mentality that says you should intentionally use slower equipment in a race when you already have the tools on hand to go faster. Who cares if someone on a fat-tire mountain bike passes you? They were clearly going to pass you anyway.
If you own it, wear it, but you must wear it on the run also, since it is a Sprint.
Finishing the race is the only thing that validates the cause.
Use it.
RV
It takes a long time to get good. - Scott Molina
Slow is smooth; smooth is fast. - Rich Strauss
But, since for me that extra time is the difference between 32nd and 33rd place in my AG, it seems kind of silly.
Since you openly asked for our opinions, mine would be similar to Tamara's and Charlie's. If/when I pass someone on discs and aero helmets, my thoughts are always, "You can buy speed." But if you really are shooting for a podium finish, then fine, wear and use whatever. Go get a $500 Speedo LZR too. But if you are MOP/BOP, then you are trying way too hard. I would feel like a major tool with disk wheels and aero helmet with my typical MOP finish.
Even though my comments seem to deter MOP/BOP racers not to wear them, I actually encourage it! When I am sucking wind on the bike and pass someone with an expensive aero helmet when I am wearing my cheap helmet I got with my cheap mountain bike makes me feel oh so good!
... But if you are MOP/BOP, then you are trying way too hard. I would feel like a major tool with disk wheels and aero helmet with my typical MOP finish.
Where is the line here - You're not fast enough: so no areo helmet for you, or no tri-bike for you and on and on.
Don't get that at all. Trying too hard? I kinda thought that the whole idea was to go hard, push yourself, test your limits. If your all out is a MOP or BOP finish - who cares.
I tell my kids in their events - I don't care where you finished - It was a good race if you gave it your best effort.
RV
It takes a long time to get good. - Scott Molina
Slow is smooth; smooth is fast. - Rich Strauss
TriSooner wrote:... But if you are MOP/BOP, then you are trying way too hard. I would feel like a major tool with disk wheels and aero helmet with my typical MOP finish.Where is the line here - You're not fast enough: so no areo helmet for you, or no tri-bike for you and on and on.
Don't get that at all. Trying too hard? I kinda thought that the whole idea was to go hard, push yourself, test your limits. If your all out is a MOP or BOP finish - who cares.
I tell my kids in their events - I don't care where you finished - It was a good race if you gave it your best effort.
I agree, its a fine line, but I think it comes down to return on investment. Is a aero helmet REALLY worth the $200 bucks if you are a MOP/BOP athlete. A tri bike obviously is worth it based on the amount of minutes saved for the amount of $$, but an aero helmet, I dunno... I mean how much time do they save you in the first place? I am in the top 3-5 in my age group (20-24) in races I do, no aero helmet, no plans to get one., and consistently pass dudes w/ aeros and discs and I just laugh. Its the athlete, not the gear.
However, since you already have one, it might as well be used if it shaves off 5 secs, it could be the difference between some goodies and not...
You can save up to 2 minutes over a 40K bike course. If you could buy some running shoes that would save you two minutes would you buy them?
Where is the controversy? At a certain point, maybe it's age-related, I stopped caring what other people would think about me. I mean, I wear tight shorts and ride a funny looking bike around on country roads. If I can survive the scrutiny of that, what do I have to worry about?
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Id say to each their own. I've seen fools on $10,000 bikes that are suffering hardcore in Olympic distance tris, and then I've seen dudes at HIMs wearing sandles... yes actually sandles, who friggin own the bike and the run. It's like the perfect example of America... but as for buying stuff, I suppose if you need the financial investment to keep you dedicated, so it goes. For me it's lookin in the mirror every morning.
In the end its up to you, and dont give a crap what other people think unless they're your sponsor. In which case, wear what THEY want you to wear.
just my .02
Weary is the path that does not challenge.
You can save up to 2 minutes over a 40K bike course. If you could buy some running shoes that would save you two minutes would you buy them?Where is the controversy? At a certain point, maybe it's age-related, I stopped caring what other people would think about me. I mean, I wear tight shorts and ride a funny looking bike around on country roads. If I can survive the scrutiny of that, what do I have to worry about?
Aero Helmet is Speed for Sale (Disclaimer: This links to a commercial site, but it is not mine, and is not intended as an advertisement.)
Amen to that!
I stopped caring when I was running and spilled chocolate GU down my leg. I could only imagine what people thought....but I could care less. I PR'd.
This isn't a debate of if it's worth it or not for the money as some people are looking at it. The helmet is already owned...so wear it.
If I'm a MOP/BOPer who owns good equipment, I'm going to use it...why would you leave it at home an opt for lesser equipment in a RACE when it isn't going to cost you any extra $$$. That's stupid.
Plus, as is the case with most MOPers...I'm not going for the podium in my AG when I race...if I happen to hit it then bonus, but if I'm improving my times...then I'm ecstatic b/c it's all about self-improvement. And, all else being equal, faster equipment leads to faster times.
Wear it proudly
I think it's funny to see some of the hypocrisy. Some of the people who answer the question..."I'm a newb and don't know what to wear at my first tri," answer with "No one will care what you look like, wear what works for you." Then they turn around and say "don't wear/use upgraded equipment unless your fast enough to back it up" on this thread.
First off, rock the helmet and gun for the hardware.
As far as the gear, its a personal choice. Why buy a BMW when a Hyundai will get you to where you're going just the same? Because you can afford it and its nicer. No one has ever knocked me for not having all of the nice "stuff," so I'm not going to knock someone who has it.
I have definitely stopped worry about what other people think. The tight shorts and shaved legs don't give me any bonus points outside of the tri/cycling community anyways. The last time I cared about what I looked like was on my wedding day. After my wife said "I do," I no longer had to care about appearance, its all about functionality now.
If you already own it, it'd be foolish not to use it!
Weary is the path that does not challenge.
When I race I want that "race day feeling" and all the toys come out to play :)
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Righto... next year at IMCa I'm definitely gonna plop down some cheese for a helmet... might even rent some wheels. I have fun little competition going on with a friend that's also doing the race, I beat him last year but since I moved to MN I don't get the full year of outside riding and mountains to ride in. Should be interested. I'll need every second I can get!
Weary is the path that does not challenge.
Smoke 'em....I mean...wear 'em if you got 'em.
This makes me realize that if I ever get an aero helmet, I want it in black. With a black mirrored visor.
are you doing the ymca freedom tri?
Yes I am...You? I will be "that guy" with the Aero helmet ;)
Thanks to all for your comments...
Train safe and hard.
jtrimom wrote:are you doing the ymca freedom tri?
Yes I am...You? I will be "that guy" with the Aero helmet ;)
Thanks to all for your comments...
Train safe and hard.
no, I had considered it, but I am signed up for Jeff and Brede's in 2 weeks- the budget and time constraints only allow for one race a month- let me know if you have anything else coming up in the Houston area
Its yours, you own it, wear it. Who cares what people think. Right Chunky B. We both know the social scene question "You do triathlons, yeah right"..... Maybe thats another topic I should start.
Its yours, you own it, wear it. Who cares what people think. Right Chunky B. We both know the social scene question "You do triathlons, yeah right"..... Maybe thats another topic I should start.
Yeah. Definitely.
Me: "I'm doing a triathlon"
Them: "Well, it's not a real triathlon, is it?"(looking at my gut while they say it).
That's what's so funny. People who are into triathlons are never surprised when I tell them that I do them too. They're always like "that's awesome" and stuff. Then, when people who don't really know much about it hear that I'm into them, they're like "whatever". I've never found a more supportive group than among triathletes.
"The melting point of wax means nothing to me": Thrice
JMA wrote:You can save up to 2 minutes over a 40K bike course. If you could buy some running shoes that would save you two minutes would you buy them?Where is the controversy? At a certain point, maybe it's age-related, I stopped caring what other people would think about me. I mean, I wear tight shorts and ride a funny looking bike around on country roads. If I can survive the scrutiny of that, what do I have to worry about?
Aero Helmet is Speed for Sale (Disclaimer: This links to a commercial site, but it is not mine, and is not intended as an advertisement.)
Amen to that!
I stopped caring when I was running and spilled chocolate GU down my leg. I could only imagine what people thought....but I could care less. I PR'd.
The Chocolate or rasberry Gu on your leg is a whole other thread! ;-)
''Nothing to it, but to do it''
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If you have the aero helmet, use it.
However if you use the aero helmet at a sprint you better finish up front.
I suck on the bike and during one of my first handful of sprint tri's I passed a guy all decked out with matching tri top and bottom, a Felt tri bike with Zipp wheels, and an aero helmet.
I had a Trek road bike and a $18 Bell helmet I got from Wal-Mart.
Basically if you are gonna talk the talk, you better walk the walk
(or swim the swim, bike the bike, and run the run in this case) ;-)
''Nothing to it, but to do it''
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If you have the aero helmet, use it.
However if you use the aero helmet at a sprint you better finish up front.
No no no. Always fun to disagree with Beads!
That basically says that unless you are on the podium you shouldn't use or aren't entitled to use your best equipment...
You may be faster than someone decked out in a full areo kit, but they are still faster than they would have been without it. And it may still be a PR day for them even if you smoke them.
RV
It takes a long time to get good. - Scott Molina
Slow is smooth; smooth is fast. - Rich Strauss
RV are you poking fun? You know how serious I am!! ;-)
Actually what I was saying is;
'go ahead and wear your fancy gear, but if you aren't in the top 10% I will laugh at you'
;-)
''Nothing to it, but to do it''
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I'm ok with being laughed at :) Else I wouldn't post here so much!
And that guy you passed with the nice bike and aero helmet might be winning the M65-70 AG, so don't brag too much ;) Or you might just be a superstar so be nice and humble. My best is different than everyone else's best, but I'm happy with mine.
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I'm ok with being laughed at :) Else I wouldn't post here so much!And that guy you passed with the nice bike and aero helmet might be winning the M65-70 AG, so don't brag too much ;) Or you might just be a superstar so be nice and humble. My best is different than everyone else's best, but I'm happy with mine.
Check my bike times, I need to work on my bike more.
So I am not bragging. I am a middle of the pack cyclist on a good day.
The guy I passed was 24 and losing in the 20-25 age bracket.
He looked like he just had some money to spend on expensive toys.
I found it amusing at the time.
''Nothing to it, but to do it''
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Oh I agree it can be amusing... and I often get passed with my aerohelmet. But I like it and the feeling it gives to my race day mentality, so I'm not going to leave it home just so I look better. It's a race -- faster = better to me. Even if the faster means a minute that doesn't change my placing.
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I have a sprint race this weekend and was wondering if I am going to be "that guy" with an aero helmet on a 12 mile bike course. I do remember seeing others wearing aero helmets while I was cheering my wife in her sprint race. Employees of our LBS, who were racing, were decked out in aero helmets as well. So, I just wanted to get everyone's feeling on this subject. It is a smaller (500 entrants) local race benefitting the local Y.
I raced this race last year with my old road bike (didn't buy my first tri bike until a couple of weeks later) and finished 3rd in my age group. Since then, I have "collected" a lot of the cool tri gear (aero helmet, 404's, carbon bike etc). I enjoy tri's but do not consider myself competitive (yet?). I just like buying cool stuff.
Thanks!