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Running a marathon tomorrow... any last words of advice?

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So tomorrow will be my 8th marathon. My current pr is 4:15 and I'm looking to blow it away (hopefully). In every marathon prior to this one I've failed to successfully take in the right amount(s) of nutrition and always end up rather dead around mile 22. This past year I've had some really good success with enduralytes, hammer gel, and infinit or accelerade mixed to something just shy of a paste. I'm planning on rocking the superhero belt to have everything with me and plan on taking only water at the stops.

so... any mind shattering tips?

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TryScott posted 16 weeks ago.

I only have one marathon under my belt, so I'm not even going to try to give advice. Good luck on the PR, and have fun.

Let us know how it goes, and include letting us know how your miles/hours of training leading up to the race if you have them logged.

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Anton posted 16 weeks ago.

Don't go out too fast. Eat and drink early and often. Many folks under fuel in the early miles.
That being said..race day is not the day to be changing things up. But you know that since this is number 8 for you.
There IS a direct correlation to your longest long run and when you hit the wall...so when that time comes the best thing is to just keep the little voice at bay..
Best of luck on beating 4:15 and let us know how it goes....as always, have fun!

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Anton posted 16 weeks ago.

Don't go out too fast. Eat and drink early and often. Many folks under fuel in the early miles.
That being said..race day is not the day to be changing things up. But you know that since this is number 8 for you.
There IS a direct correlation to your longest long run and when you hit the wall...so when that time comes the best thing is to just keep the little voice at bay..
Best of luck on beating 4:15 and let us know how it goes....as always, have fun!

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Anton posted 16 weeks ago.

OK! That's weird!

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jhudalla posted 16 weeks ago.

Yeah... about that longest run, I only built up to 15miles. I'm kinda a tweener between marathon and triathlon. For about a year I've been focusing soley on the bike. I did a half marathon in march and then a HIM also in March. Since then I've been only running on saturdays between 9 - 15miles after a short(er) ride and then putting in 5-6hr bike rides on sunday while mixing in a few high intensity sessions during the week but nothing over 1hr. So... I'm noticed for myself that my ability to dig deep has improved over the years. I'm counting on that being the reason people are able really do well as they enter their 30s and 40s.

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gfd posted 16 weeks ago.

Don't try to bank time early by going too fast when you feel good. Find an even pace that feels like auto pilot and take it 1 mile at a time. It is a great feeling to pass people over the last 10K.

You have a good base with the long bike rides that should carry you through the the tough miles when you are hurting and still have a ways to go.

Don't forget the importance of what a great attitude can do for you when you are feeling bad. Find a friend. Thank a volunteer. High 5 some kids. Do anything fun to get your mind off the discomfort and back onto the reason why you live the endurance lifestyle and why marathoning is a such an amazing experience wether it is your 1st, 9th, or 100th.

Good luck setting a PR.

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jsk85 posted 16 weeks ago.

I can't give any great advice having only done one myself...I didn't fuel enough early...took in enough water, but not enough electrolytes and had to run/walk the last 5miles, but GL

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jhudalla posted 16 weeks ago.

Thanks alot! At my half earlier this year I was able to put out a 1:45, being a realist I know a 330 probly isn't going to happen this time around but a 345 might. Should I try and put in a solid first half and then cruise the second or go for the negative second split? This has been a major area where I find my experience coming short. The course is rather flat with a 1mile 3-4% hill at about mile 22. Onwards from there its pretty much a 2% downhill to the finish.

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gfd posted 16 weeks ago.

Negative splits or even splits. Although negatives can be wishful thinking in most marathons.

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jhudalla posted 16 weeks ago.

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking... if you could do negative splits, you're walkin that first half!

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StephenPDennis posted 16 weeks ago.

I always tell me self that negative splits are the way to go. But it's just so hard for me to hold back. Once you're running and you feel good and everyone is cheering... damn, how can I keep from cruising? Of course once I hit mile 22 or 23 and the world starts to sloooooooow down I regret it but that's just part of the joy of the day.

Congratulations on your 9th marathon and just remember to have fun!

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jtrimom posted 16 weeks ago.

I'm signed up for my 1st full marathon in January so you are an expert! Good luck to you! let us know how it goes with the nutrition , too

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TriSooner posted 16 weeks ago.

gfd wrote:
Don't try to bank time early by going too fast when you feel good.
True. Your first mile may very well be your slowest. I don't know how crowded your race will be, but as you know, it takes time to space out and find your pace. Mentally break the race into sections: 0-1 mile, what will you do to keep the right (slow-ish) pace? Mile 2 - 13, what is your strategy to hit auto pilot and make all of your splits? Mile 14 - 20, or the 'dead zone,' what are you going to think about to get you through being so far from the start but not really 'close' to the finish? Mile 20 - 23, picking it up now, will you have anyting left for the last 5k? 24 - 26.2, how many people can you pass?

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tri-ac posted 16 weeks ago.

just remember:
left right left right left righ left right left right left right left right...
until they tell you to stop

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ChunkyB posted 16 weeks ago.

tri-ac wrote:
just remember:
left right left right left righ left right left right left right left right...
until they tell you to stop

I thought it was Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right B A Select Start.

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RV posted 16 weeks ago.

Just run.

Run like you trained.
Don't get caught up in the excitement of the start and go out too hard.
Stay with your planned pace or zone.

RV

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TryScott posted 16 weeks ago.

If your feet start to hurt, remember that it's because you're kicking so much ass.

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Captain Mal posted 16 weeks ago.

ChunkyB wrote:

I thought it was Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right B A Select Start.

Awesome. Just, awesome.

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tri-ac posted 16 weeks ago.

TryScott wrote:
If your feet start to hurt, remember that it's because you're kicking so much ass.

nice! i'm adding that to my arsenal of mental self-help during my runs

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theShiba posted 16 weeks ago.

What I can say is, stick with your plan. No matter what happens, don't let your brain convince you that your plan is flawed in any way. Stick with it, and if it's a good plan, you'll be happy with the results.

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kylie posted 16 weeks ago.

So how'd it go?? :)

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jhudalla posted 15 weeks ago.

TryScott wrote:
If your feet start to hurt, remember that it's because you're kicking so much ass.

Great line! Yes the marathon went very well, thanks to all that posted. I was able to best my prior PR by 20 minutes! I came in around 3:55 unofficially! Who says marathon training requires alot of running? I am now a firm believer that biking is the best thing for the marathon hopeful due to it's minimal impact.

Yeah! Thanks again to everyone!

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jtrimom posted 15 weeks ago.

awesome!!! maybe training for my 1/2 IM will be a good lead in for my first mary after all

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jhudalla posted 15 weeks ago.

oh for sure! running just beats you up! I'd say other than a few decent long and tempo runs, most of the training can be done on the bike. imo

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TryScott posted 15 weeks ago.

Gratz on the big PR!

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kylie posted 15 weeks ago.

Awesome! Congrats on a very successful day! :)

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jhudalla posted 15 weeks ago.

Thanks a bunch! I didn't really feel much stress or pain at all until around 18, at which point I am convinced the real race begins. As for that I held true to my promise not to walk. Next up... Twin Cities Marathon in October!

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beads1985 posted 15 weeks ago.

Great Job!! It sounds like you plan worked out well!

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