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To KILL IT, or not to kill it...

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started by jhudalla on June 10, 2008

That is at least MY question. In training on both the bike and run I'll usually put in an effort which keeps me around 150-160bpm, I typically do about 1.5 the distance I'm training for on the long rides however in the races I'm usually KILLING IT at 175+ for the entire race. Am I short changing myself in my training? Should I be training harder and racing softer?

I'll take my answers off the air...

Weary is the path that does not challenge.

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Nutty posted 12 weeks ago.

I do one HARD workout, one LONG workout, and a couple in the middle for each sport each week. That way ive got the speed to go fast, and the endurance to go longer at low HR. Seems to be a decent combination for me in making progress both in my endurance level and speed in all sports. Not sure what everyone else does though, im pretty new to most of this business.

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TryScott posted 12 weeks ago.

I can't push myself in training to the same intensity of a race. This year I'm just doing more races so I don't have to as often.

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jhudalla posted 12 weeks ago.

yeah, on them long training rides I just don't have the carrot in front of me like at races, its even worse when you're out there alone... what's the motivation to really go for it... boo. Race more, perhaps thats the answer.

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RV posted 12 weeks ago.

jhudalla wrote:
yeah, on them long training rides I just don't have the carrot in front of me like at races, its even worse when you're out there alone... what's the motivation to really go for it... boo. Race more, perhaps thats the answer.

Get a Powermeter - it'll tell ya when you are slacking ;)
Those power numbers are merciless!!

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jhudalla posted 12 weeks ago.

Ha, I was considering... however living in MN I was also thinking about getting a computrainer... being a broke grad student really doesn't lend itself too well to this sport.

After I graduate I'm moving to NV or SoCal, biking and open water swimming in January really can't be beat.

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triNick posted 12 weeks ago.

Are you incorporating interval training? These session usually involve you going all out for repeated spurts with some recovery. In these sessions you should be killing it, but for a short distance or time. You would only want to do this once a week and a few days before a race. On the other days of training you will have a recovery day and then a day or two of what you are use too. This works for all three sports.

Hell no, don't race softer, give it all you got.

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triNick posted 12 weeks ago.

jhudalla wrote:
however living in MN I was also thinking about getting a computrainer...

Yes, you need too, it's too cold here in the winter, I know, I'm here in the tundra as well...

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TriSooner posted 12 weeks ago.

TryScott wrote:
I can't push myself in training to the same intensity of a race.
+1 So a lot of it depends on how long (in terms of time) your long sessions are. You can't hold 175bpm on a six-hour training ride. If you could, Slipstream Chipotle would like a word with you.

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jhudalla posted 12 weeks ago.

Very true trisooner... triNick, you're prolly right. I have a ~40 mile ride I usually do maybe twice a week with a few high(er) kicks but nothing too hard. This ride is mainly around the twincities area so with the stop lights and such I could probly get my rest and use the inbetweens as all out or close to sprints. The weekends end up containing a 30mile bike to 6mile run on saturdays and sunday is the loooong ride between 80 and 150 depending mainly on weather (again, stupid MN). These are all around the 150-160s overall average. I think I just need to grow a pair. Or get a buddy that wants to kill me.

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theShiba posted 12 weeks ago.

TriSooner wrote:
TryScott wrote:
I can't push myself in training to the same intensity of a race.
+1 So a lot of it depends on how long (in terms of time) your long sessions are. You can't hold 175bpm on a six-hour training ride. If you could, Slipstream Chipotle would like a word with you.

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