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70.3 and IM Race Day Nutrition

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started by upittmikey on May 30, 2008

I am competing in a 70.3 and Full IM this year and have been experimenting with different race day nutrition combinations but I am having a hard time finding things that will work during a race. I can't seem to find things I can carry on the bike or during the run with me that don't get ruined in my jersey.

For some reason GU makes me gag so it isn't an option. I have tried the Cliff gel things and they are OK but they melt. I have tried power bar type supplements and even peanut butter sandwiches . I recommend against the sandwiches as it seems that breathing while licking PB off the roof of your mouth isn't really all that easy!

Can you all make any suggestions? I have been trying different things during my long rides and runs so any suggestions would be great.

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Tamara posted 26 weeks ago.

Do you have to have solid food during your HIM event? Could you use a product like Infinit or CarboPro or any of the other liquid fuels? I can't speak to the IM distance and whether this would be sufficient calories at that distance. I did my first HIM last fall with Infinit no problems. I had a serving of clif shot bloks just in case I got "bored" and wanted to chew something around mile 40 or something, but by itself the Infinit did the trick on the bike. On the run, I just used whatever they had at the aid stations.

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TriSooner posted 26 weeks ago.

Tamara wrote:
On the run, I just used whatever they had at the aid stations.

+1 From my experience at Ironman events, I carried on the bike's Bento Box whatever solid food I needed/wanted (Clif & Power Bars, Snickers for sugar/fat, baked potato for carbs, bottles of Gu, which you can't do). If you don't have a Bento Box - or something like it - get one and start filling it instead of your jersey pockets. Count on burning several thousand calories. One philosophy I've heard in the past is that what you eat (or don't eat) on the bike is what will fuel your marathon, so the bike is one big rolling buffett. You must eat, and eat solid foods. I don't believe (for me at least), that you can get 5,000-10,000 calories from Gu and Infinit. Another option is the special needs bag, which NOT all races have. If your FULL has them, you can put solid, non-perishable food in them too.

Then on the run I just ate whatever they handed out. Find out, though, what that will be and use it when you run train. But it really won't matter because by the time you get to the run on the full you will either be starving and can eat everything or so sick you can't keep anything down.

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driggins posted 26 weeks ago.

i have done a few HIMs and carbopro (or HEED) and water is sufficient for the bike. i also eat a powerbar - which I cut into 3 or 4 smaller sections - on the top bar of my bike frame. for the run i follow tamara's and trisooner's lead and eat/drink whatever they have.

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RV posted 26 weeks ago.

I have switched over to all fluid - Using Infinit. I just mix up a multi-hour bottle and then only need water from the course. You create your own formula so you can customize the calories and mix as well as electrolytes, protein and caffeine. Been working great for me.

For the run I used a flexible flask from Hammer (haven't seen them anywhere else) and put a concentrated mix of Infinit in there as well - so just needed water on the run course.

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leschrotz posted 26 weeks ago.

I used Infinit for the entire race at Ironman Canada last year and it was FABULOUS. It's a personal mix, fitted to your own needs and wants. Put as many bottles as you can on your bike and a like number in Special Needs and you're set. Same on the run -- with a Fuel Belt. I never once had any stomach issues, either. Planning on using it again for an upcoming half and then again at Canada.

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kylie posted 26 weeks ago.

I use carbo pro and nuun for an all liquid diet on the bike (with a couple gels or bloks with me in case I crave something with texture). Like others, the run is whatever they have.

The most important thing is to just start trying more combos now until you find what will work for you. Some other things I've used: fig newtons, nutter butters, gummy worms, Take5 candy bars, lara bars, gu/egel/cliff gel/hammer gel, snickers, pb sandwich, etc. Basically anything I thought might work (or would just be fun to try). Through adventure races I learned to think of things you crave and save them for the big race simulation training days and races. And through Ironman and half IM I learned to pick things can still move with and after when going for PRs ;)

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triNick posted 26 weeks ago.

i too switched to a liquid diet on the bike, carbopro mixed with powerbar drink mix. i will have one gel with caffenie on the bike towards the end and then go to gels and aid station stuff on the run. i do this for both 1/2's and full's

i can't repeat this enough, test it out to on your training days and see what works...

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JDB posted 26 weeks ago.

Don't forget your Thermolytes/ Endeurolytes/ Salt Stick in your race day nutrition plan, I've learned that one the hard way.

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emtridoc posted 26 weeks ago.

like the others, I have found that I simply can't tolerate solids on race day and stick to fluids. In addition to the usual e-lyte solutions and gels. I throw 6oz of gel into a drink flask, one for the bike and one for the run and can easily carry that in my pockets. If you don't like gu you might try other gels - the fact that one makes you gag doesn't mean they all will. I also mix up some hammer perpetuem in a liquid form and my old standby ensure (350 cal/8 oz and actually tastes pretty good to me, at least when it's somewhat cold) which is a higher calorie content then gels and includes some protein instead of just carbs (which you need for endurance events) for the bike and usually one or two flasks for the run. The science suggests that liquid vs. solid doesn't matter except to personal taste and tolerance. The one benefit of solids is that they usually go further in satisfying your hunger sensations - but personally I can't stomach solids during a race. There is also some trial and error to be had, but most people can't get their system to absorb more than a few hundred calories/hour, so don't mix up a 500 calorie solution and expect to be downing several servings an hour without sending your GI system into turmoil. Instead, as has been pointed out above, make certain to start early. You will finish in a calorie deficit, but should tolerate it. Caffeine has been shown to be beneficial for endurance events, too, but with some people will "activate" their intestinal system leading to forced potty breaks! As always, experiment and stick with what works. If you plan to use what's at the aid stations then find out who the sponsors are and make certain that you train with those products!

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longhair posted 26 weeks ago.

Each Sunday is an experiment in nutrition for me in preparations for the Providence HIM.

I ride something like 55-60 miles followed by a 5 mile run. While riding, I consume three bottles of cytomax, PB and J cut into bite sizes, and one bag of cliff shots ( 6 cubes.) Stomach seems fine so far, and +1 what everyone says about the run...I will use what they give me, plus a two bottle fuel belt so I can get a drink in between aid stations if needed.

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spomeroy posted 26 weeks ago.

For my first 70.3 and even some Century rides I used Hammer Nutritions Perpetuem mixed a little richer than specified and add for each bottle a single Hammer Espresso (with caffeine) gel. I loaded up my aerodrink with that and carried 2 other bottles mixed and a single water bottle and had no problems with feeling flat.

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CGroth posted 26 weeks ago.

i just completed my first 70.3 and here is what i experienced. i was at the florida 70.3 and was unprepared for the humidity of orlando after a heavy rain, but i digress. i had my hydration/nutrition planned out before hand and was prepared (i thought). i ended up taking in a bit too much fluid at the tail end of the bike/start of the run and got myself very full. running with a side stitch, liquid sloshing around, etc. made me feel not so good so i skipped a few aid stations...bad idea. because i am a big sweater in those conditions i lost a lot of fluids and was not taking any calories in, so about halfway through the run i started to get a neck cramp and feel very ill. ended up walking the next 1.5 miles until i could get ice/water/gatorade/anything i could put in my body and then walked a bit more to let everything settle. once i got back on track things were ok, but i could still feel my mistake until the end.

the lesson i learned: even if you really want to, do not guzzle liquids before/during the run, and then skip aid stations.

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Ironmom posted 26 weeks ago.

I use a combination of bars (I like the Cliff bars because they're not too sticky), CarbBoom gels, Cliff Bloks and Accelerade. The yummiest thing I have ever seen someone eating in an Ironman was a pastry tube full of mashed potatoes. After all of that sweet stuff, it looked really great. I think I will have to try that next time.

Nutrition is very individual. Some folks do really well with all fluids and no solids. Others do really well with lots of solids (I know a guy who eats Subway sandwiches in IM distance races) and many in between use bars/gels, either a lot or a little. Experiment around with all liquid and see if that works for you. Or experiment around with other solids. I like my Bento box because I don't have to keep stuff getting warm and sticky in the back of my jersey. The Cliff bars seem to keep pretty well in there. I've found that Powerbars get too melty in warm temperatures.

For the IM run, it's a good idea to practice with whatever they'll have available. The chicken broth that many races serve is terrific if you're craving something salty, and I made sure I could tolerate it ahead of time by using it in training. Ditto with the defizzed Cola.

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brittda posted 26 weeks ago.

CGroth wrote:
i just completed my first 70.3 and here is what i experienced. i was at the florida 70.3 and was unprepared for the humidity of orlando after a heavy rain, but i digress. i had my hydration/nutrition planned out before hand and was prepared (i thought). i ended up taking in a bit too much fluid at the tail end of the bike/start of the run and got myself very full. running with a side stitch, liquid sloshing around, etc. made me feel not so good so i skipped a few aid stations...bad idea. because i am a big sweater in those conditions i lost a lot of fluids and was not taking any calories in, so about halfway through the run i started to get a neck cramp and feel very ill. ended up walking the next 1.5 miles until i could get ice/water/gatorade/anything i could put in my body and then walked a bit more to let everything settle. once i got back on track things were ok, but i could still feel my mistake until the end.

the lesson i learned: even if you really want to, do not guzzle liquids before/during the run, and then skip aid stations.

OMG I did the same thing at my first IMC!!! It was 93 degrees when I hit T2 and assumed that since I had not peed that I was dehydrated, so I guzzled a bunch of Accelerade. BIG MISTAKE. It hit my tummy like a rock and I ended up having to walk the greater part of the first 3 miles :( Was probably just "balanced" and did not really need that. Lesson learned!