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started by qb ant on May 30, 2008

I normally run in the afternoons or at night, but started running with some friends in the EARLY am (we start at 5:20) and do about 5.5 miles. My first run with this group was on Wed. and although I felt sluggish and was running slower than my normal pace, I felt fine. I just figured my body had to get used to rolling out of bed and hitting the street. Well, this morning we ran again. After about 20-30 minutes I started feeling real lightheaded and nauseous, then a cold sweat - I basically felt like crap. I walked for a while, tried to run some more, but still felt really bad. Came home, ate, sat for a while and now feel great. It was very frustrating - a should be able to do this run twice with no problem.

Have any of you experienced this? I didn't eat anything before the run - so can it be low blood sugar or low bp? I'm going to try again next week, but have some OJ before heading out. Any suggestions, because I'd really like to make this part of my routine - I live in Atlanta and it's already too hot at night.

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Ant

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cayman posted 18 weeks ago.

I'm voting for the low blood sugar. You need to go out fueled. You're using up energy stores from the previous night in 20 mins or less and there's nothing left in the tank. Sometime a snack before bed works, but I find that usually keeps me awake.

If you're able to get up 40 minutes or so before the run try experimenting with different light foods, toast, peanut butter, yogurt, bowl of cheerios, bananna, etc. Don't forget to hydrate before you go out or take along a handheld.

An Ensure, wheat toast w/ peanut butter and a bananna usually works for me. I'll carry along a gel or 2 for longer early a.m. runs just in case I get the queasies.

You can do this it's just a matter of getting some fuel in the tank.

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fastdog5 posted 18 weeks ago.

+1 on the blood sugar. I like to work out in the morning, but if I eat too much beforehand it just sloshes around. I'll do a clif bar or a piece of toast plus a lighter energy drink, like the Powerbar stuff.

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TriSooner posted 18 weeks ago.

I think cayman's advice of eating something before you run is a good place to start. From your post it does sound like it might be from a lack of eating. But getting up that much earlier to eat may be a hinderance. Do you really want to get up at 4am? Everyone's stomach is different. I don't eat anything before an early AM run. Eating makes me sluggish. Alarm goes off and I am running within 10 minutes. It might also be something as simple as not being acclimated to running that early in the morning. Problem solved after a few weeks of 5:20 runs.

And BTW, if you ever do IM Australia, don't say you 'bonk' on the run. You'd get some quizical looks.

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cherelli posted 18 weeks ago.

If it is that hot at night too, I'm wondering if maybe electrolytes are playing a role as well as blood sugar? Is it worth carrying some sort of electrolyte/calorie drink with you in the morning if you don't want to eat before running?

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qb ant posted 18 weeks ago.

Thanks guys - I'm going to keep at it and try some different things to see what works. Hopefully, it's as simple as eating something - what a strange feeling tho.

I don't think I'll be in Australia anytime soon (although hubby travels there on occasion) - but I'll be careful not to "bonk" while I'm running ;D

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qb ant posted 18 weeks ago.

cherelli wrote:
If it is that hot at night too, I'm wondering if maybe electrolytes are playing a role as well as blood sugar? Is it worth carrying some sort of electrolyte/calorie drink with you in the morning if you don't want to eat before running?

Ya know, I hardly ever drink a sports drink - always water unless I'm out for over an hour - but that is very possible......

Something else I will definitely give some consideration to.

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Anton posted 18 weeks ago.

I doubt the electrolytes for so short a run even if it's hot....It takes quite awhile to deplete your salts.
Low blood sugar yes. I'm with cayman. Give yourself enough time to eat light before the workout, even if it's some sports drink or a gel.
Some folks can get out of bed and hit the road. Others can't, but need some wake-up time and some calories. I'm in that group...I have to have some stuff to burn in the morning or the workout is just horrible...

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TriSooner posted 18 weeks ago.

qb ant wrote:
I don't think I'll be in Australia anytime soon (although hubby travels there on occasion) - but I'll be careful not to "bonk" while I'm running ;D
Just for giggles, I looked at Ironman Western Australia: It would take a $3,000+ airline ticket and nearly 30 hours flying from Dallas/Fort Worth. Never mind.

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kylie posted 18 weeks ago.

I also don't always like food in the am before I run, but even a couple gulps of juice can help. For longer stuff I throw a gel in my shorts.

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beads1985 posted 18 weeks ago.

I try and get a few gulps of Gatorade most of the time.

Running thru a slight 'Bonk' can actually be beneficial.
If you back off your effort a little your body will supposedly work your fat stores rather than your glycogen stores.

Nothing to it, but to do it

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tri-ac posted 18 weeks ago.

kylie wrote:
I also don't always like food in the am before I run, but even a couple gulps of juice can help. For longer stuff I throw a gel in my shorts.

kylie, you're supposed to EAT those... :)

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beads1985 posted 18 weeks ago.

tri-ac wrote:
kylie wrote:
I also don't always like food in the am before I run, but even a couple gulps of juice can help. For longer stuff I throw a gel in my shorts.

kylie, you're supposed to EAT those... :)

I like the squishy feeling of a gel in my shorts too!! ;-)

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jtrimom posted 18 weeks ago.

do you open up the gel before you throw it in your shorts?

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kylie posted 18 weeks ago.

Is that why it wasn't helping as much as I thought it would???

I had a feeling I'd get comments on that... but with compression shorts (which I wear on the longer stuff) I really do just throw it in the side of the shorts. :-D Egels cause more chaffing than gu, fwiw ;)

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beads1985 posted 18 weeks ago.

jtrimom wrote:
do you open up the gel before you throw it in your shorts?

Well duh! Of course! Doesn't everybody?

Whadda ya mean that is not what they're for? ;-O

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beads1985 posted 18 weeks ago.

jtrimom wrote:
do you open up the gel before you throw it in your shorts?

Well duh! Of course! Doesn't everybody?

Whadda ya mean that is not what they're for? ;-O

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jtrimom posted 18 weeks ago.

maybe a good anti chafing solution; but I don't think using it that way will give you much energy, depending on...well, that could go in a whole new direction...

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beads1985 posted 18 weeks ago.

That might just be a 'Question for the trifuel Women' ;-)

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cjhoffmn posted 18 weeks ago.

I'm in the camp of needing some calories in me before morning workouts. I learned my lesson long ago when I actually passed out after doing a set of leg squats in a gym working with a trainer. We were doing hard circuit training and I hadn't eaten or drank anything and finished a nearly all out set and literally "fell asleep." When I came around the manager of the gym was there, they all had lots of worried expressions, and a Gatorade for me... That solved the problem - and I've done lots of really early AM working out since then, always with some juice, a powerbar or something of the sort before hand.

For the record, I don't throw gels in my shorts yet. I'll work on that during next year's base training. Should I throw it in the front, back or side of the shorts?

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tri-ac posted 18 weeks ago.

i actually had a chocolate gel explode in my cycling jersey during a hot race. it leaked down my backside, and it was a little bit of a surprise to peel off my tri shorts for my post race shower.

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TryScott posted 18 weeks ago.

If your body needs to get used to rolling out of bed that early, my guess is it will take more than a few times to get used to it.

Hopefully getting some calories in you will solve the problem.

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qb ant posted 18 weeks ago.

Update......

I gave it another shot - 5:20am - but this time I had a banana and some OJ and OMG!!!!! what a difference. Lesson learned - thanks guys for all the advice.

Next time I'm going to try "throwing a gel in my shorts" ;D

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beads1985 posted 18 weeks ago.

A little fuel in the tank does wonders!! ;-)

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cayman posted 18 weeks ago.

way to go qb ant, it's a whole different world out there for the early a.m. runs. Enjoy!

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kylie posted 18 weeks ago.

Glad it worked for you! And soon you won't be able to run without that gel there -- chaffing is a thing of the past :-P