Auburn Warning from the RD
Not racing it, but that is SO bogus. Waaaa! "It's hot. It's humid. Let's shorten the race." Wonder why triathletes have the reputation of being prima donnas? THIS! You never hear of a marathon RD shortening a course (in advance, Chicago not included) because it is 'too hot.'
Heat and humidity are NOT the same as lightning and high winds during a swim. So, if the RD shortens the course do I (figuratively speaking) get some of my money back? Heat and humity are not/should not be taken into consideration by RDs as distance-altering criteria. You host such an event IN THE SPRING/SUMMER, what do you expect?!
The RD didn't train for the event. The RD isn't running in it. And God knows they have the insurance because of that silly USAT card. If you (the athlete) thinks it's too hot or too humid, don't show up. I guess they need to cancel Kona every year then.
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Why would they shorten it? Everyone should have been well aware that it would be hot and humid out there.
News flash ... it's hot in Alabama. And the course is difficult? If the course were easy, would that make it less hot? What good is it going to do to cut off 4 miles from a 70 mile race? Any responsible athlete will have planned for the course and the heat before they even get there. Rather than cutting the race short, why don't they just move the start time up an hour to capitalize on the cooler morning?
Wonder why triathletes have the reputation of being prima donnas?
I didn't know triathletes had this reputation
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It's safe to assume what feedback he will get via email. I can't imagine that anyone doing the race will want it shortened.
One thing I've noticed over the past season or so is the dramatic increase in newcomers to the sport. While this is fantastic for triathlon, I'm starting to appreciate how it can be a nightmare for race directors.
For example, a marathon is running. That's it. From a race management perspective, it's a fairly controlled and limited venue.
With a triathlon, you have three venues, spread out over a large area, for which you must ensure the participant's safety. One race director shortened the swim two years ago after a former collegiate swimmer, now in his 40s, decided to give tris a go and ended up having a heart attack in the middle of the lake. It nearly pulled all of the RD's resources off the course to get this guy out and it really spooked the RD. I'm sure the liability RDs have to shoulder keeps them up at night.
Combine a litigious society with a lot of new people looking to test their physical and mental capacity, perhaps with a misguided perception of what that capacity really is, and you have a recipe for disaster.
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Steve Prefontaine once said, "I want the race to be so tough it becomes a gut race, then only I can win."
Last time I went downhill-skiing I read the disclaimer on the back of the ticket:
"Skihill has natural obstacles: trees, rocks, stumps. Obey warning signs, ski at your own risk."
Triathlons are done in summertime, or at least, not before the ice goes out. The course is hot and, well, difficult.
Duh.
You want easy? Do the Mother's Day Walk. Bring the kids, the baby jogger, and the dog.
You want to be an Ironman - one day. Man up.
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PoC
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I wouldn't show up if they shortened the race. You are supposed to be prepared for the race and that includes what Mother Nature throws at you, we would all like race days with no wind and temps in the 60's, but that does not happen every time so you need to think of that when you sign up for the race. If it is going to be hot, you need to adjust your strategy accordingly. As the old saying goes, “if you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.”
Another example of things being difficult and instead of rising to task we pull the task down to our level. Yes, it will be hot and yes, it could cause problems but that is where race smarts come in...knowing when to push and when not to.
If someone thinks it's too hot for them to race...they shouldn't. Don't expect others to give in to the whining and change things because it will be tough.
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News flash ... it's hot in Alabama. And the course is difficult? If the course were easy, would that make it less hot? What good is it going to do to cut off 4 miles from a 70 mile race? Any responsible athlete will have planned for the course and the heat before they even get there. Rather than cutting the race short, why don't they just move the start time up an hour to capitalize on the cooler morning?
This particular race isn't in Alabama. Rather far from it, actually.
I do agree with the general sentiment, though. If it's hot, know your limits and go a little slower if you have to. BYOBs, too, b/c races have been known to run short of fluids in these conditions.
Thing is if something happens at the race - like someone suffers from heat stroke or other heat related issues then everyone is all over the RD that they were not looking out for the well-being of the athlete etc. He has to be concerned about liability.
It is not unheard of for marathons or whatever to shutdown the course in record heat - Madison did that a couple years back. There were people down all over the course. Sent out buses to pick people up.
I wouldn't pull out of a race because of heat or whatever - but then again I may not be all that bright. And of course the athlete needs to be responsible for his own safety - but most of us fixate on finishing and toughing it out, that we may not always make the smart decision.
RV
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Exactly - this isn't Flatabama. After pre-riding the run and bike courses, this course will flat kick your ass in the best conditions. Check the finishing times from previous years - and factor in that temps were about 10 to 20 less.
This was a simple question seeking input from a supposed experienced audience. Before you pull the prima donna card, check the mirror.
Thing is if something happens at the race - like someone suffers from heat stroke or other heat related issues then everyone is all over the RD that they were not looking out for the well-being of the athlete etc. He has to be concerned about liability.
That's why they make us sign the waiver form, take our weight at sign-in, plus inquire about pre-existing medical conditions on the entry form - which is signed.
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And of course the athlete needs to be responsible for his own safety - but most of us fixate on finishing and toughing it out, that we may not always make the smart decision.
Right on RV.
To TBird, with respect,:
There's nothing prima dona -ish about expecting adults to be responsible for themselves and their own well-being, and thereby ensuring that other participants don't have to abandon their race to be part of a rescue mission (which I have done and would do again.)
PoC
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- Shane Falco.

I'm personally looking forward to it. I've raced in 96 degrees and it was a suffer-fest. I think it'll better prepare me for hell when I get there.
I also think the message from the rd is just to cover their butts. And I hope nothing happens to anyone since that will most likely have a wider impact than just his race.
And btw, the RD is Brad Kearns.
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Right on. Good luck with your race.
PoC
"Pain doesn't last, chicks dig scars, glory is forever!"
- Shane Falco.

tsilcyc, good luck with the race. This race sounds like it might be worse than hell. The self proclaimed "hardest half in the world" in near 100 degree with stagnant air, good luck my friend.
That is one TOUGH RACE even on a nice day. There is a reason the name was World's Toughest Half for so long!
Personally, I wouldn't want it shortened. But I do admire that the RD is getting input -- find out your customers and how to please them, keeping in mind the liability.
Oh and best of luck :)
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Nobody mentioned this. Harden the f up!
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I would definitely feel cheated if the race was shortened. This year I am doing Ironman Cd'a and we had an extremely long winter here in the northwest. The water temperature is 42 degrees right now and they are predicting that the temp for the race may only get into the low 50's because there is still so much snow left in the mountains. There is talk that the swim may be cancelled, but I would be really bummed if they did that because of the fact that I have been looking forward to doing this race since I was a spectator 5 years ago.
There is talk that the swim may be cancelled, but I would be really bummed if they did that because of the fact that I have been looking forward to doing this race since I was a spectator 5 years ago.
Since I'm signed up for CdA, I'm curious to where this "talk" is coming from. Do you have an Internet reference?
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Auburn Update:
"Half-Iron Distance Stays!
Thank you for the effusive feedback and the overwhelming votes to keep the run course 13.1 miles. Our updated weather forecast looks better with 95 degree high and partly cloudy.
While you will still run 13.1 miles, I have decided to change the run course as follows:
13.1 mile runners complete two laps of the Loop #1/10k course (second lap includes an out and back section to make 6.2miles+6.9miles = 13.1). My reasons are as follows:
Lap 1 is on canyon ridge exposed to prevailing breeze and good shade sections. Lap 1 is easier to support for medical and aid stations, provides outstanding views of the river canyon, 100% good footing
The Deleted Lap 2 on the Western States Trail is opressively hot - 8 degrees hotter than prevailing Auburn temperature. The fire road is severely overgrown (State Parks forbids any trimming w/o 'environmental impact report'!), leaving many areas virtual single track with blind corners for out and back traffic. Footing on the descent to Dam Wall is terrible with loose gravel and big rocks this year.
I've been thinking making this a permanent change anyway. So, we will have a new 2008 two-lap, 13.1-mile run course and enjoy it for years to come. Sorry for the late notice, but I'm confident I make the best decision with your safety and enjoyment in mind. See you in Auburn this weekend and thanks for your consideration and comments!"
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Lap courses are cool! As much as some folks might not like them, they really are easier for participants and family and for logistics for the RD...
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I like lap courses because you don't have to memorize as many turns...not a huge issue on the run, but on the bike it can be a pretty big problem even with a moderately well marked course.
As for spectators and RDs, lap courses are definitely the way to go.
Hopefully everyone is safe out there. People are quick to point out that the athletes need to be smart enough to avoid dehydration and other heat injuries, but who takes the responsibility of the "not so smart" people? I'm sure there are benefits to eliminating their gene pool from humanity, but it's not politically correct. Besides, the RD is going to have a really bad day if he needs to spend hours calling emergency contacts to tell them that their loved one is en route to the hospital.
That being said, this sounds like an ideal place to find your limits. Wouldn't it be safer to tip-toe the line of a heat stroke at a race, rather than pass out 5 miles from home after a hard brick workout? Just joking of course, I hope the race is injury free.
Well, I'm here to report that it was definitely the World's Toughest Half. Weather.com reported a whopping 102 degrees and it was everything I imagined it would be. By the time I crossed the finish line, I wanted nothing more than shade and a cold beverage. What a festival of suffering.
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Those racing in Auburn this weekend, here's a message from the RD about the temps:
"Record Hot Temperatures Expected
Auburn race day prediction is 97 degrees and sunny. In the canyon due to lessened air exchange, temperatures are several degrees hotter. As an athlete and race director, I'm concerned for long course athletes about the heat + course difficulty combo.
I'm considering one option of shortening the 13.1-mile run course to 9.1 miles by removing an out-and-back section. I'm wondering how important it is to complete the exact half-iron distance on a day like Sunday. Feel free to email me with your thoughts as it will strongly influence my decision, as will the updated weather forecast (Monday is predicted 9-degree drop and cloudy...hopefully Monday weather will come sooner!) We will have incredible support along the course with cold beverages and sponges. Please bring your own water bottle & carrier to ensure you have extra water between stations!"
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