Olympic Tri and Chicago Marathon
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PJT posted 9 weeks ago.
Disclaimer: I'm no coach and no expert. But if those were my 2 main races of the season, I would probably do roughly the same thing you proposed. I would not expect to go as fast as my potential in the Oly by training with an HIM plan, but relatively few people do their first Oly as a speed event anyway so no big deal.
The one thing that I might have some concern about is that doing an HIM training plan for your first tri might be a little much. Only you know if you can handle that. If you followed a training plan for your first marathon, you know what that's about.
If the daily workload starts to seem crushing in the tri training portion, perhaps cut back on the distances, but not frequency, of your bike rides. Rationale: the swim is more or less the same in an Oly and HIM, and you want the longer run to set you up for marathon training. So the bike is the logical place to cut back if you are feeling too cooked from training.
I might also throw in a sprint tri earlier in the summer. They're fun and you can work some of the kinks out of transition, etc. so you won't be quite as nervous for the Oly.
Enjoy Pleasant Prairie. It's a nice race on a very fast course.
Anyone else want to chime in?
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brittda posted 9 weeks ago.
I would a gree with PJT ..... In the 5 months that I was unable to run (from November -April) I continued swimming, cycling and hot yoga (if you have not tried it, it is harder than you may think). I know that the cycling has helped my leg strength so that I was able to jump right into my running with relative ease. Swimming helped the cardio. I don't think I would have been able to do this if I had not. After 3 weeks, I did a 10 miler this Saturday at my old training pace.
My point is this..... If Steevbr is focusing on the tri with a HIM plan, and can keep up with the plan, then I think it may be an effective way to prepare for the marathon with only 2 months (and with a 2 week taper, really only 6 weeks) to do so. This would allow for say 3 long runs (18-22 miles) with a few shorter (12-16 miles) runs in preparation.
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gfd posted 8 weeks ago.
Good advice. My thought is that you could morph the swim, bike portions of an OLY plan with the key elements of a marathon plan. Start the mary plan 18 weeks out and follow the long runs, medium long runs, and speedwork/tempo runs. You would still be running either 3 or 4 times a week and bricks/transition runs could be substituted as well as long bike rides (60-80 milers). Just a thought. Good luck with what you choose to do.
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saydee1800 posted 8 weeks ago.
I am doing both races as well and I have two sprit before that. right now I train with four runs 2-3 ride and 3-4 swims a week. I always do a brick or a long run on Sunday. and if you start going away from the brick as of Aug. 17 (Pleasent Prairie) you will do ok. Make sure you are at lest running 15 miler for your long run buy that race. then take one week of a small break and start hammering the run miles.
15-18-19-21-22 long runs you will be fine always try to get a 10 mile run in the middle of the week
I peak at about 50 mile a week running
good luck in your races
were are you from?
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steevbr posted 8 weeks ago.
Thanks for all of the advice. It helps to have some reassurance that i am doing the right thing. I am from Chicago so the Lake Front path is going to be my friend this summer.
I have signed up for the Pleasant Prairie Olympic Triathlon on Aug 17th. I am also signed up for the Chicago Marathon on October 12th. This will be my first Tri and my second Marathon. I did the infamous Chicago Marathon last year. I am currently doing a Half Ironman Tri Training Program so that after the tri I can hit the ground running in the Marathon Training and be ready to go by Oct 12th. Is this a good approach?