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burnman posted 3 weeks ago.
He should have opted for the parachute pants (ca. 1989). BTW, can Lance swim?
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TriSooner posted 3 weeks ago.
burnman wrote:
Yes, he started in tris, actually, and the urban legend is that one day he will sign up for an IM and win hands down with minimal training. I, for one, think he could do any IM bike leg in sub-4, which I don't believe has ever been done. I bet he is also the best bet to be the first to do Kona sub-8.
BTW, can Lance swim?
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stewarba posted 3 weeks ago.
TriSooner wrote:
burnman wrote:Yes, he started in tris, actually, and the urban legend is that one day he will sign up for an IM and win hands down with minimal training. I, for one, think he could do any IM bike leg in sub-4, which I don't believe has ever been done. I bet he is also the best bet to be the first to do Kona sub-8.BTW, can Lance swim?
I have often wondered about that, but he would need to really get the competitive fire back. My impression is that right now he is just doing marathons to draw attention to his .org. He has commented that it keeps him so busy that he doesn't have time to properly train for the marathons he does. An IM would really tax his time.
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ChunkyB posted 3 weeks ago.
+1. I think when he retired from cycling, he lost a lot of his competitive fire. He was probably ready for the next phase of his life, without having to train 24/7. I could see him doing an IM, but I don't think he would win in Kona.
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TriSooner posted 3 weeks ago.
ChunkyB wrote:
Now THAT'S a good sports debate question. So in Lance's last TdF win he covered the 3,607km course in 86:15:02 for a 25.99mph avg. Norman Stadler holds the Kona 112-mile bike course record of 4:18 in 2006, which translates to 26mph avg. Lance just ran Boston in 2:50; Norman ran 2:55 at Kona 2006. It might be apples to oranges, but what a possibility!
but I don't think he would win in Kona.
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stewarba posted 3 weeks ago.
When you put it like that, I didn't realize how closely the top cyclist were in Triathlon to the TdF cyclists. If you couple that with the lack of drafting in Triathlon, it becomes even more impressive. Throw in a 2.4 mile warm-up and a 26.2 mile cool down and well....
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Iron Dan posted 3 weeks ago.
Depending on Lance's swim time is/would be, I think he could at least hold his own if he adequately trained for Kona. I would definitely take the field to win over him, but I think a top 5 finish could be very possible.
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theShiba posted 3 weeks ago.
Could be interesting...
Okay, TdF nerds... let's see his Time Trial times/averages. I mean, that should give us a better idea of what his avg. speed could be over an IM course, no?
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Chiflado posted 3 weeks ago.
Now I don't really know much about what the Kona course is like, but there are some hard climbs in TdF... which seems would have an affect on the average?
I mean the Tour de Brussels is longer than 112, but also has some killer climbs where if you're not at the front you can get bogged down and have to run your bike some. My friends were telling me about this one guy who was with a break off pack for a long time and when the peloton caught up he broke away and held them off by himself for around 25 miles (after already going a hundred and somethin' miles). I think his average for the race was 25 mph or so(and it's like 160 somethin' miles long?) And that wasn't Lance and he was not riding a TT bike.
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longhair posted 3 weeks ago.
Recall that Laurent Jalabert, former Jack of all trades cyclist, has taken up Ironman triathlon in his retirement. I can only recall that he was in the top 30 in Ironman France, earning him a spot in Kona. His Kona placing was something like 70th-80th overall. Not bad for a guy who is "retired".
Also recall that cycling is a team sport...often a guy gets away because the pack let him get away. When the pack starts working together, they gobble up most escapees.
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tsilcyc posted 3 weeks ago.
I'm a Lance fan but I gotta tell ya... he'd get SPANKED at Kona unless he starts training more.
Btw, Stadler's stand alone marathon results...
http://www.frankfurt-marathon.com/results2007/index.php?content=detail&id=478780&lang=DE&event=L
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iamtb13 posted 3 weeks ago.
Just be aware - Lance's average 25 mph was over the whole Tour de France - including the Alps. The top cyclists in the Tour average close to 33 mph during their time trials in the Tour de France.
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tsilcyc posted 3 weeks ago.
It's not about a single discipline. It's being able to take all three disciplines and push it to the point where you are able to perform the next at an optimal level. A 33 mph bike split would mean a walking marathon.
Stadler ran a flat out marathon in 2:32, he ran his marathon at Kona in 2:55. Theoretically, that puts Lance's Kona marathon at 3:20.
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iamtb13 posted 3 weeks ago.
tsilcyc wrote:
It's not about a single discipline. It's being able to take all three disciplines and push it to the point where you are able to perform the next at an optimal level. A 33 mph bike split would mean a walking marathon.+1
The top tri pro's could bike faster but then would blow up on the run. Their goal is to go as fast as they can without sacrificing the run. The Tour guys go all out thus the difference.
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Chiflado posted 3 weeks ago.
Yeah it's definitely not all about one discipline. it seems to me that if you were to put a top triathlete against a top specialist in any one of the three sports they'd get beaten. But that's the thing about triathlon... you gotta be good at all three to be at the top.
How much time did he lose wearing those shorts?
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