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catwood posted 3 years ago.
31 C?? That's nearly 88 F... wow... The pools i've been in are around 80 F max.. (25-27 C seems normal)... That's got to be impossible to train in... see if you can't bring a truck load of ice next time...
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wrobis1 posted 3 years ago.
Are you sure you wern't in the jacuzi? That's rediculous. I swim in LSU's rec center and during the winter they keep the pool slightly warmer, but it's never been that warm.
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jeslol posted 3 years ago.
Oof...that is toasty. Our pool is kept at 82 F and I think that's rather warm.
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michaelrobinson posted 3 years ago.
I swim at a couple of different YMCA pools and they usually keep it between 80F and 82F. You might want to consider approaching the local management to explain your problem. 88F is way too warm to lap swim in. If I were paying a membership to swim there I'd have a real problem with that temp and they'd know about it. That's just my opinion, but I feel for you.
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garager posted 3 years ago.
I complained a bunch last year and again today. It was UP from yesterday to 31.8!
The management says they allow for one degree variation per day. That doesn't
bode well for my future. I asked the lifeguard at what point she would take
notice of the temperature as being too hot. Her reply was 33! Actually, first I asked
her the temp when she was holding the mercury just after checking the temp.
She replied, " Why, are you cold?" She was dead serious. This is a public pool
in Osaka, Japan. I believe it is soon to be the hottest pool on the planet. Last year
I was still struggling mightily with TI and could only finish a hundred meters without
feeling ill. This year I can finish a 3000m workout with 5 x 200 thrown in and still
keep in my aerobic range. WIthout an efficient stroke I'd be DEAD in the water!
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AMF posted 3 years ago.
garager wrote:
I complained a bunch last year and again today. It was UP from yesterday to 31.8!
The management says they allow for one degree variation per day. That doesn't
bode well for my future. I asked the lifeguard at what point she would take
notice of the temperature as being too hot. Her reply was 33! Actually, first I asked
her the temp when she was holding the mercury just after checking the temp.
She replied, " Why, are you cold?" She was dead serious. This is a public pool
in Osaka, Japan. I believe it is soon to be the hottest pool on the planet. Last year
I was still struggling mightily with TI and could only finish a hundred meters without
feeling ill. This year I can finish a 3000m workout with 5 x 200 thrown in and still
keep in my aerobic range. WIthout an efficient stroke I'd be DEAD in the water!
Thats definitely TOO warm, I like to swim in water around 71F - 72F (22C). 78F (26C) is already too warm for me.
On a different topic: right now I'm at that point where I can't do 100m properly without feeling ill, how was your trainnig to get where you are ?
I've been working on my technique for the past month and my 50m times have dropped dramatically, but I still can't get around to swimming continuously for more than 100m, and I don't think I'm in too bad shape either, I can mountain bike for 3-4 hours at a HR average of 155-160 at 12,000 feet above sea level, no problem (I've been MTBing, DH and XC, for quite a while now). My running has improved a lot as well, 2 months ago I couldn't run 2K without dragging my tongue, now I feel comfortable doing 8k runs at a HR average of 155. But I can't really see the improvement in my swim. One other thing, on the bike I feel really comfy at HR 160, in the pool, 140 starts getting to me, and even when it drops to 130 I still don't feel fully OK. What's wrong with this picture ?
Thanks.
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garager posted 3 years ago.
I keep an extremely low stroke count and kick rate throughout the workout.
( 26 strokes per 50m and about the same number of kicks )
I was using a whole lot more energy last year while learning how to swim
efficiently. I actually had to go to another pool a fair distance away and was
convinced I'd never be able to swim at my local pool again. I don't give a
thought to speed anymore. It took a while to let go of that as a goal, but the
need for speed all the time gets in the way of solidifying technique.
I drank about a liter of fluid in the 90 minutes I was in the pool today.
What is your stoke count?
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garager posted 3 years ago.
It sounds like you are in terrific shape. But, it may be the old turtle and the hare situation.
There is no way on earth anyone can transfer there 50m pace to a 1500m swim. That is
the only way I can imagine you'd be getting ill and not being able to swim 100m or more
comfortably. How is your breathing? Do you have time for a nice long, relaxing exhale and inhale in the middle of your stroke? I think of swimming like weightlifting, you've gotta breath!
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AMF posted 3 years ago.
garager wrote:
It sounds like you are in terrific shape. But, it may be the old turtle and the hare situation.
There is no way on earth anyone can transfer there 50m pace to a 1500m swim. That is
the only way I can imagine you'd be getting ill and not being able to swim 100m or more
comfortably. How is your breathing? Do you have time for a nice long, relaxing exhale and inhale in the middle of your stroke? I think of swimming like weightlifting, you've gotta breath!garager
I figured as much, I know I need to breath, and that's my problem I don't seem to be able to get enough air in when I do it, so I tire quickly. Trying to reduce my stroke count should give me more time to take a deep breath..... I'll see what happens in the pool tomorrow.
Another problem I seem to have is if I try to slow down too much I feel like I'm going to sink... you ever felt that way ? Keep in mind that I just started swimming (for real) a couple of months ago.... I knew how to swim enough not to drown and tread water long enough to get my diving certification.... but thats it.
Thanks.
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garager posted 3 years ago.
Have patience. Swimming is a technique heavy sport. From the time I started with
Total Immersion until I felt comfortable with a "long" work was about 32 months.
That was starting from zero. Get the TI DVD and book and devote yourself to perfection.
Good luck.
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garager posted 3 years ago.
To answer your question - No, I don't remember the sinking feeling mainly because I trained myself out of it with TI. I did used to fight like hell to stay going in the water. It was pretty terrible compared to what I'm experiencing now.
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AMF posted 3 years ago.
garager wrote:
Have patience. Swimming is a technique heavy sport. From the time I started with
Total Immersion until I felt comfortable with a "long" work was about 32 months.
That was starting from zero. Get the TI DVD and book and devote yourself to perfection.
Good luck.garager
Thanks for all the input.
I guess it's all about practice and patience.
I'll pester you guys with questons as I go along.
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michaelrobinson posted 3 years ago.
I can second garager's comments on TI. I've only been doing it for a few months now, and only recently started doing TI drills (flip cards) twice a week , and what a difference it has made. I don't know that I'm faster (still about 7:50 to 8 min. 500 split during long swim), but my stroke count has come down from 19-21 per 25 to 16-18 per 25. With more practice I can easily see my stroke count going down to somewhere between 13-14 strokes per 25. Why does it matter if my stroke count is down, but I'm not gaining more speed is a question you might ask. Well, a triathlete wants to conserve as much energy as possible for the other events. If I can swim at 14 strokes per 100 and someone else is doing 18, I'm saving a lot more energy in the long run. TI is a good investment of money and time. Good luck.
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EricbCook posted 3 years ago.
Hey AMF!
I just wanted to throw in my 2 cents! A year and a half ago I was just like you couldn't swim much when I started! I did my first sprint almost entirely Breast stroke! I do TI as well, you might read the thread that Cat posted about breathing! Anyway here is a couple things I have just recently learned:
1) Don't freak out about endurance or speed until you get technique, as I think someone else here said.
2) Here are the top things that have helped me get better in technique:
TI teaches a tecnique to get your body Balanced in the water.
They tell you to think of the area in between your chest and neck as a buoy and press it down into the pool, a drill they give you to practice is: hands to your side head in water pressing your buoy down and legs will come up! now kick legs and breathe when you have to then back to hands at side, this will help you balance in the water.
3) I also was talking to a swimming instructor and she told me that my hand should go into the water like a knife on its edge not slapping at the water then turn and stroke, that was huge! also breathing: I was going right left breathe, she told me to spread it out over three to four storkes, I have and I sped up immensely! as well as making sure you get all the air out under water before breath and only enough mouth out of water to breathe!
4) Stetch your arm out on each storke like you are reaching to the end of the pool, this will help you coast and swim long in the water which in turn will also balance your weight better and keep your legs up.
I won't share anymore because I really encourage you to buy the total immersion stuff it is awesome!
Work on technique worry about endurance later! a couple laps or until your form breaks down stop rest and begin again!
I just started swimming with a partnerr and he was smoking me a month ago, and with these things I shared with you (using them to work on my technique) now a month later with less affort and strain I am now smoking him because he worked on speed and endurance I just worked on technique and i got endurance in the deal as well!
I wish you well !
Eric
Keep on Tri-ing
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Would everybody let me know what kind of temperature conditions
you have in your pool? Yesterday mine was 31C, which prohibits any
sort of anerobic workout. I do not understand how they can justify
such a temperature AND not allow any liquids at poolside. I drink
between sets ( every 10 to 20 minutes ).