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started by kblais on March 25, 2008

I am looking for tri bike that has a granny gear. I currently ride a litespeed saber and love it but unfortunately it is not great for very hilly races. Does anyone have anysuggestions?

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TriSooner posted 23 weeks ago.

kblais wrote:
I am looking for tri bike that has a granny gear.

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Socket posted 23 weeks ago.

I wanted to steal the cassette off my sister's mountain bike. It has a low gear that's 3-4cm larger diameter than the next gear that they named "mega drive." Might look a bit out of place on your bike though :-)

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kylie posted 23 weeks ago.

To get a granny gear you wouldn't need a whole new bike: you can change out the chainrings in the front. I found actually that compact cranks are perfect for me: lets me have a bit of an easier gear in the front, and I have close to the same options by using the right cassette for me in the back. I no longer feel like I run out of gears climbing, and it makes me more willing to use the gears I've got (I had this feeling I should save gears in case the climb got worse).

Another option would be to get a larger cassette in the back, but if you are really wanting a granny (ie something nice and easy) it might not get it easy enough for you.

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tbertrand posted 23 weeks ago.

Anybody have any comments on Motobecane or Mercier bikes for a beginner? I did my first tri last summer on a mountain bike, so I am just looking for a cheap and reliable tri bike to start this year.

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tsilcyc posted 23 weeks ago.

What is the cassette on your Saber? If it's a 12/23, you could get a 12/27 which would give you two more gears. You can buy the cassette at Performance Bike for about $60. You'll need a new chain, another $20. I'd buy a couple of quick links so you can swap back and forth between the cassettes.

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TriSooner posted 23 weeks ago.

kylie wrote:
But if you are really wanting a granny (ie something nice and easy) it might not get it easy enough for you.
Wow, that was so elegant in its simplicity. Can I steal it?

Ok, seriously, you can get a triple chain ring in the front - not a whole new bike - if you insist. But I'm not sure if you can just keep your crank arms and bolt them onto triples. But regardless, you will still have to get a triple-compatable front deraille . . derailu . . . deral . . . screw it, damn French, you know, the 'de-rail-er.' At least I think you do. Kylie is right too in suggesting you get a really small/big (I can never keep them straight) cog in the back. 12X27? Is that right? And as Kylie said too, you could get a compact crank set. I'd go with the 12X27 and a small crank set. It would be an easy mod any shop can do with on-hand material without having to adjust de-rail-ers.

This would have been a perfect question for Sheldon Brown. :(
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NotAsFast posted 23 weeks ago.

The other option that does not include any gear changes is to build you leg strength on the bike by doing hill (Yuk) repeats. 12 weeks ago I was using the lowest gear to climb some hills I ride, but now after multiple hill repeats I dont even get into the two lowest gears on the same hills. I have also found my overall speed is better as well on the flats.

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Tribro posted 23 weeks ago.

Lots of mountains to climb around here so I opted for an FSA compact crank when I built up my bike.
http://road.fullspeedahead.com/fly.aspx?taxid=53&layout=product And I believe I have a 12-23 or 12-25 on the back. And yes you may need a new front derailleur, but much cheaper than buying a new bike. And you most likely won't find many tri bikes with compact standard on the build, though you might find some with triple rings, but unless you really really need lots of gearing options I'd go with compact over triple...

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PJT posted 23 weeks ago.

Do the 12-27 rear cassette + compact crank with 50/34 or 50/36 front chainrings on your current tri bike (Some front derailleurs won't play nice with a 50/34, some will. Your bike shop should know the difference.)

Total price should be around $300-500 and up depending on what brand of components you buy and how much work you do yourself. If your chain is getting on in years, it will be a good time to replace that as well. You might, and this is not definite, need a long cage rear derailleur too. But I would try this setup with your current derailleur first and if you absolutely cannot get the rear shifting dialed in then make the switch.

Triples are too finicky for me. While it looks like you have 27 gears, you can actually only use a couple gears per front ring before the chain starts to rub the front derailleur. As a result, you find yourself shifting the front rings fairly often to keep at 90 cadence, which is no fun at all. The compact front with a big cassette gets you nearly the same granny gears with much less fuss overall.

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kblais posted 23 weeks ago.

Thanks you guys. The reason I was asking is because I am doing alcatraz and somone said I would need a granny gear. I did Hawaii last year with my litespeed (12/27) and it was fine. Thanks for the confidence that I won't need to drop a bunch of cash on a new bike for one race:) preeciate it

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scottbland247 posted 23 weeks ago.

I think you have three considerations here.........physical effort, time, money.......leaving you with three options

1. More physical effort, more time, less money: train harder
2. Less physical effort, less time, more money: change your gearing to something more appropriate to "spinning" uphill
3. Less physical effort, much more time, less money: Make a list of hilly races that you currently have hill problems with...make a pact with the devil...have said evil lord of the underworld posess the government members holding jurisdiction over the areas the hills are in...have said evil lord of the underworld have said government members declare said hills discriminatory against height challenged humans who are incapable of seeing over them and therefore in violation of the ADA (americans with disabilities) act...have said evil lord have said government members declare said hills are to be leveled via bulldozer to a height at which all humans, regardless of height, can safely see over them to adequately assess any potential hazards over the crest of said hill...

It's an easy choice really

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