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Gels and Bars .. your fav's? .. like 'em -- hate 'em?

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started by smashburn on March 21, 2008

Hi Folks,

For those long runs/bikes .. or us slow folks who do long (time) moderate runs/bike, do you use Gels ... Bars ? Which ones?

I'll be out for 5 hours plus at the upcoming ING Marathon (Atlanta) so will need to refuel some. I'll have to carry some in case they don't provide .. I've seen no mention of Gels or Bars on their site.

I picked up some Hammer Gel and Bars today to try them out. The guy at the shop had this spiel about how they were better for you, but when compared to GU Energy Gels they're pretty much the same stuff except the GU has 'fructose'. I don't think it was as "tasty" but it was OK. I don't have the others here to compare to.

Your thoughts?

Steve

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jsk85 posted 15 weeks ago.

I'm no expert here since I use what's available. I started using hammer gels and accel gels, so I think they are tasty. I don't think I noticed the difference when I used gu. I prefer gels, especially during the run phase because bars sit more heavily on me. Also, energy drinks work well to since your body can only absorb a certain amount of calories per hour.

I would say first find out what form of calories works best for you (bars, gels, liquid, or some combo) then just make sure you train with what you plan on using in the race. I like to combo accelerade and hammer/accel gels the best, but I've heard of many other options.

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tsilcyc posted 15 weeks ago.

The gels get a little old after you go through a few boxes of them. I still use them but lately I've been using more granola bars, Lara bars (natural), and I just bought a box of Clfif Bars. The granola bars are the old fashioned kind and you can get a giant box at Costco for pretty cheap.

The granola bars are 180 calories, the Lara bars are 180-200 calories, and the Cliff Bars are 240 calories.

The Cliff Bars aren't really something I'd grab since it's more like junk food than what I like but I'm just so tired of eating the same stuff. I need some variety!

Gels are approximately 100 calories each. You're looking for approximately 240-280 calories an hour.

There are some new gels that are made with honey. They are ok, it's something different but I wouldn't eat more than a couple if that.

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cayman posted 15 weeks ago.

This is an oldie but a goody--maybe it's time to update with all the new people out there and changing tastes.
http://www.trifuel.com/node/4989

Started out on the Gu as a lot of people do, but have switched over to powerbar gels--tangerine and chocolate favorite flavors. I like the the 3 caffiene options, 0, 1X, 2X and the 4Xs sodium, alledgedly, of other leading brands. I also use the Clif Shot Bloks to break up the monotony on long days--Margaritta is like a party in your mouth at 20 miles. Mini Snickers bars give a good jolt too--alot of marathons break them out the last 10K.

Good luck at IMG Atl.

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psychosyd posted 15 weeks ago.

Gu Gu GU!!! Vanilla Bean is my favorite flavor. I could eat these like candy. They are the only gel that my stomach can handle during hard efforts in a race. They work really well too! I also like the fact that different flavors have different amounts of caffeine. Which I can tailor to the different stages of a race or long workout.

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RV posted 15 weeks ago.

PowerGel for me: Chocolate, Vanilla and Strawberry-Banana. Tho now I am using multi-hour bottles of Infinit for calories etc and only tossing in an occasional gel for a change of taste..

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CGroth posted 15 weeks ago.

+1 to Gu. vanilla and berry are my flavors of choice. mixed feelings on powergel. havent tried hammer/accel gel. i am more of a "stick with what works" kind of dude.

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fastdog5 posted 15 weeks ago.

+1 on the differing caffeine levels in Gu. I also like to keep a Clif Bar in my jersey pocket on longer rides, for when I actually get hungry vs. just needing more energy.

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longhair posted 15 weeks ago.

I have used gels and bars, and I think my choice has fallen somewhere in the middle with Clif shots. Black Cherry is my curent fav flavor.

I am racing my first half ironman this july...thought about stock a peanut butter and jelly on board the bike with my clif shots to get some solid food in me. I will start that experiment in May.

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Triguy98 posted 15 weeks ago.

I live for Strawberry Banana Powergels. I can take them with Gatorade without upsetting my stomach, something Hammer gels cannot be done with. I Also like a couple flavors of Clif Bloks just to mix it up. Strawberry, Margarita, and lemon lime are decent.

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tsilcyc posted 15 weeks ago.

longhair wrote:
I have used gels and bars, and I think my choice has fallen somewhere in the middle with Clif shots. Black Cherry is my curent fav flavor.

I am racing my first half ironman this july...thought about stock a peanut butter and jelly on board the bike with my clif shots to get some solid food in me. I will start that experiment in May.

While I'm a huge fan of PB&J, it gets really messy on long days. That and storing it. Plastic bags are a nightmare to deal with while racing. Anyone have any good suggestions?

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RV posted 15 weeks ago.

I used one of those pseudo disposable Glad containers. Found them with the normal plastic bags etc. I think they were like a buck or two for a stack of them. I used it one year at IMWI - had it in my bike special needs bag. Grabbed my PB&J and left the container in the special needs bag and was off. Worked pretty well for me.

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Triguy98 posted 15 weeks ago.

tsilcyc wrote:
longhair wrote:

While I'm a huge fan of PB&J, it gets really messy on long days. That and storing it. Plastic bags are a nightmare to deal with while racing. Anyone have any good suggestions?

Uncrustables from the frozen section of your grocery store. While you're at it, Pop Tarts are REALLY good in the middle of a long ride, too.

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smashburn posted 15 weeks ago.

Wow! Thanks for all the great feedback. As always, like with our gear, there is no simple answer.

I'm pretty tolerant of all I've tried so far though I find if I drink too much Gatorade during a long run I get a sour stomach .. I think it's all the sugar. Hammer 'supposedly' uses a less refined sugar ... and tastes that way to me ... so might fit me better.

Thanks again,

Steve

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TriSooner posted 15 weeks ago.

Whatever you go with, make sure you try before you use in the race. I'm sure someone already said this, but I'm not going back and reading every single post. I did NOT do this once and tried a new drink I found at an Expo. Was nauseated on the bike for the firt few hours of an IM. Dumb.

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smashburn posted 15 weeks ago.

TriSooner wrote:
Whatever you go with, make sure you try before you use in the race. I'm sure someone already said this, but I'm not going back and reading every single post. I did NOT do this once and tried a new drink I found at an Expo. Was nauseated on the bike for the firt few hours of an IM. Dumb.

Thanks .. I am. In fact that's what I'm doing this final week before the marathon .. fine tuning everything. So far both GU and Hammer (gels) work great. Also did my bagels and then hammer bar early before my morning run .. then ran my plan of walk for 2:00 at each mile marker and run 11:00-12:00/min pace ... it worked great .. felt super. Stopped at 6 miles to fit my program but was ready for more.

I've been swimming an hour 3 days a week for the last week and a half and it has really helped. I never used to cross-train .. just run .. but now training for my first tri, it's a given. Should have done it a long time ago .. :)

I just have to watch the gatorade .. too much of that gets to my stomach ... at least it did in the half-marathon earlier this month. Then I went to half water half Gatorade and it was better .. I think it's the sugar.

Thanks,

Steve

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tri-ac posted 15 weeks ago.

another bump for powergel & shotbloks

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theShiba posted 15 weeks ago.

tri-ac wrote:
another bump for powergel & shotbloks

make it two...

Powerbar Gel is amazing... I like the "Plain Energy".... no caffeine and 4xsodium. I like the cran-razz bloks.

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honguito posted 15 weeks ago.

I also like the GU-gels a lot, but not the chocolate flavored ones.
Another question: I will do my first full marathon in October of this year (so far I have only run 10 kms or half-marathons) and I am worried about nutrition during the race.
Are gels enough ? What should I drink ?
I am also interested in book-recommendations about nutrition or marathon races.
Regards
Gunter

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kakman posted 15 weeks ago.

definitely Gu for me - love the chocolate (in fact have them as a replacement of regular chocolate when I just have to have some). I find the chocolate a bit hard to take when working really hard so I switch to the strawberry/banana. Very sweet but a bit easier to swallow.

Can't stand the taste of the Hammer stuff. Tried them all at a booth a few weeks back and thought they were all terrible.

can't get cliff bars down here but have heard good things about them - might get some shipped over to try - I hear the choc-mint are the go.

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Iron Dan posted 15 weeks ago.

For gels I use Gu Vanilla, but I can't stomach them very well and rarely use them. I use Cliff Shot Blocks and Sport Beans, I like the shot blocks better because the sport beans are almost to acidic for me. Other than that, I mainly use Fig Newtons and Pop Tarts.

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theShiba posted 15 weeks ago.

honguito wrote:
I also like the GU-gels a lot, but not the chocolate flavored ones.
Another question: I will do my first full marathon in October of this year (so far I have only run 10 kms or half-marathons) and I am worried about nutrition during the race.
Are gels enough ? What should I drink ?
I am also interested in book-recommendations about nutrition or marathon races.
Regards
Gunter

A key consideration is how long you think the marathon is going to take you... what's your goal finish time? The longer you are going to be out there, the more you are going to hate your life on gels...

That said, gels should be enough if you can get enough in you. Use your training runs to see how much you need to be eating to get you through your runs. I like to go with something like a gel every 45mins-1hr. Some people say that's too little, others too much. I find that I can't really stomach any more than that though. You've got to listen to your body and find what is right for YOU. There are people that say you want around 200-280 calories/hr, but I can't see to take in that much on the run... though it's not a problem on the bike. I think it's the getting sloshed around that my stomach doesn't like.

I would say, if you are going with gels, you should take straight water, as I have had a hard time with mixing gels and sports drinks. Some people with iron guts can take it, but not me. Again, see what you can handle...

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Montreal.Doug posted 12 weeks ago.

PowerGel strawberry&Banana.
I eat this thing for years now, doing Ironmans with that gel.
Even if sometimes I'm bored with the taste, it has always worked well on my stomach, so I keep it. I buy them in a box, always same flavor. (steady guy you'd say!!!)