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started by flaniganrj on March 18, 2008

I noticed in the newest issue of Inside Triathlon that on pg 39 David Thompsons bike has a single bottle cage mounted inbetween his Aero bars.
Anyone know where one can find these....or is it something he rigged?

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cherelli posted 17 weeks ago.

Profile Designs sell a bottle cage mounted between the aerobars...

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GGehrke posted 17 weeks ago.

I haven't seen the actual photo you're referring to, but perhaps it's something like what Chris Lieto has been spotted with - a bontrager speed bottle up front. I swear I've seen photos from a few TT's last fall with the same setup, but this site (http://trekroad.typepad.com/trekroad/2007/10/index.html) seems to suggest that it's a one-off. (see also: http://lietokonadiaries.blogspot.com/) Certainly doesn't mean that someone else hasn't engineered their own solution -- in fact I'm toying with my own ;)

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jacmun posted 17 weeks ago.

Profile designs version can be ordered over the net. It is a 780 ml btl, so can be filled easily from your conventional bottles during the race. I have found it really good for maintaining fluid discipline. Make sure you get the adaptor which allows you to use it with any aerobars and is actually a tidier attachment system than the velcro band system the thing comes with off the shelf. The bontrager speed bottle is quite fancy, a mate of mine has one, I am a simple creature an can envisage disaster as I attempt to change it during the race (read multi bike pile up)https://www.paradise.net.nz/webmail/

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emtridoc posted 17 weeks ago.

Profile now has a single bottle with two chambers so you can carry two fluids (like one electrolyte and one water). The can be ordered on the net (bikenash, performance bike, etc) or found at most bike shops. I like the aerobar bottle b/c I don't have to break stride to reach for my bottle, but I find that the straw tends to make me hold my head to the side and cause some strain on my neck. Also, make certain that you use a rubber band or something similar to hold the sponge in our it's sure to bounce out. Finally, I've rarely had a ride with the aero bottle where I didn't wind up wearing a percentage of my fluids - good sized bumps cause the fluid to shoot out of the straw, and if the aforementioned bands break over a bumpy route you lose your sponge and your fluids, and you finish the ride a sticky mess. Probably why I mostly use the aerobottle for races, but tend to stick to the cage bottles for training.

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flaniganrj posted 17 weeks ago.

I must not have explained it correctly.....the cage on his aero bars holds regular water bottles. I have been using the version you all have mentioned but its a pain in the rear. To be able to discard your empty bottle and just slide in a new one at each aid station is what the cage I am looking for would do. Please look at the photo I mentioned.

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Leroy Bonkers posted 17 weeks ago.

this will mount a standard cage in front of your handlebars

http://www.amazon.com/BH60-Handle-Bottle-Cage-Holder/dp/B000AO5N12/ref=p...

But you're better off with the profile bottle. An old swim cap and a rubber band can be used to fashion a better cap for the profile bottle. Honestly, with all the homemade stuff you see on profile bottles you would think that profile would just fix the design.

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jsk85 posted 17 weeks ago.

so true...I love going to races and weaving through the spongy fallen-soldiers that have jumped from people's bottles throughout the bike course. I for one use a larger store-bought sponge that has a little more pressure against the sides holding it in place and is more absorbent. I need to clean it well and replace every so often, but hey it's only a sponge and is negligible compared to all the other costs associated with triathlon

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kylie posted 17 weeks ago.

I've heard it's not too hard to just use some zip ties and a regular water bottle cage. But I haven't tried it.

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GGehrke posted 17 weeks ago.

Heh, I have to say, I thought the responses concerning the aerodrink were humorous because you have to sort of look at the person asking the question before responding with something like that. It's probably pretty safe to assume you know about the aerodrink. I'm a jerk, I'm sorry.

Anyways, my concern with the in-front-of-the-bars mount is the aerodynamics. I think the one tsilcyc posted is probably the best in that regard (I've seen it before, but I ruled it out for my own use because I like to mount my computer on the aerobars) but the ones that have a bottle vertical out in the wind up front have to be pretty atrocious aerodynamically unless you used a special bottle (i.e. Bontrager Speed Bottle or Arundel Chrono - though that would rule out the quick change at aid stations, which is the whole point). Maybe if you had enough space between your aerobars you could tuck it in really close to the stem somehow.

I wish I could see a better photo of Chris Lieto's setup, and I might go find Inside Tri to take a look at what you're referring to. An elegant, aerodynamic system up front would be pretty nice.

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fastdog5 posted 17 weeks ago.

If only someone had access to the specifics of Chris Lieto's setup...hmmmmm.....how 'bout you, TriBro?!?

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Socket posted 17 weeks ago.

I'm guessing running a really long flexible tube down to the standard bottle cage is slightly out of the question? I suppose it would take some work, but I think it could be doable... Need some long flexible tubing for a straw and some directional valves....

*edit* I'm thinking along the lines of the NeverReach but less obnoxious and no gravity feed or biting...

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Leroy Bonkers posted 17 weeks ago.

GGehrke wrote:
Heh, I have to say, I thought the responses concerning the aerodrink were humorous because you have to sort of look at the person asking the question before responding with something like that. It's probably pretty safe to assume you know about the aerodrink.

Indeed. Me too.

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flaniganrj posted 17 weeks ago.

http://www.trivillage.com/visaer0450.html

Tsilcyc....your right on the money. Here is a link of what you mentioned. The Amazon link no longer works for some reason. Thanks

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kylie posted 17 weeks ago.

I think I have some wind tunnel data at home (thanks to Cervelo) about the regular bike bottles up front (as well as the other aero drinking options). I will try to post some of that info Friday once I'm home again.

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tsilcyc posted 17 weeks ago.

I've seen the picture and I don't think it's this exact model but here ya go...

http://www.amazon.com/VisionTech-Aero-Carbon-Drinking-System/dp/B000LCB48O

edit: fixed the link

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Sully800 posted 17 weeks ago.

Socket wrote:
I'm guessing running a really long flexible tube down to the standard bottle cage is slightly out of the question? I suppose it would take some work, but I think it could be doable... Need some long flexible tubing for a straw and some directional valves....

*edit* I'm thinking along the lines of the NeverReach but less obnoxious and no gravity feed or biting...

You would never be able to suck water out of a bottle in a regular cage. The whole point in the gravity feed of NeverReach is so you can actually get the liquid in your mouth. Run a straw to a bottle below your knees and you will do a whole lot of sucking to get no benefit.

What I really wish they made was a bladder in the frame itself that could hold your liquids. Bike frames are hollow anyway, and that space could really be used to increase aerodynamics. So you fill your frame with water, a straw of sorts comes out of your stem for easy access, and the system is pressurized so you don't need to deal with the sucking issue I mentioned earlier.

I also don't understand the point of mounting a regular bottle in your aerobars. One of the biggest benefits of the aerodrink bottles or a system like NeverReach is that you don't need to get out of the aero position to drink. By the way, I don't recommend NeverReach. It is a good idea, and would work well if an established company adopted the product, but I think the current product is rather shoddy. The mounting brackets are terribly designed: they don't hold the bottle very securely, and they are a huge pain to adjust. The straw makes an hold sucking/whining sound after you drink from it which I found to be annoying, but I don't know how to improve that. Overall I think its a great idea with poor product design, especially in the details.