Breakthrough workouts
yes! I was on my way to start stepping up power and speed and reducing strength and base training.
Everything was on target and then God laughed. I picked up a sudden and debilitating flu that brought me down hard for a few days. I've been shivering, moaning, aching (mostly in the lower back for some reason), sweating, and spending days in bed mostly wishing for a new replacement body.
I hope everyone else is having a better start. I exploded on the launchpad. Hoping to find my sinuses decongested soon and getting back outside once my head stops feeling like it's pressurized with fluids.
I got news today that my knee is good to go (had previously feared a torn meniscus). So, went for a two mile run to celebrate after a couple of months without running much. Felt good, and didn't really have any discomfort afterwards.
Sometimes "breakthrough" workouts for me are simply the ones where I break through personal barriers. I honestly feared for a while that I wasn't going to be able to run much anymore. But now, I am hopeful to get back into it STRONG...
Today, my test was finding out whether or not I can run again. I. Can.
"Every journey has a secret destination of which the traveler is unaware." —Martin Buber
Good stuff! Getting back into running after months of injury is definitely a breakthrough in its own way. Good luck with the continued recovery.
I was all over this as well and caught the same crap as deepbluex. I'm about 5 weeks into base and really looking forward to the power weeks I have coming up. I'll post my breakthroughs when I can rightfully stand up again.
Great thread! I had my first breakthrough today on my run, after slowly trying to get back to speed from a knee injury. I finally ran my first 8 miler in 59 minutes. My goal was to shave off 5 minutes and ended shaving off 6 minutes. That whole extra minute was definitely an encouraging bonus!
glad to know that I am not the only one recovering from knee energy... I definitely feel for you. Take it easy, and have a smooth recovery.
"Every journey has a secret destination of which the traveler is unaware." —Martin Buber
Just had a testing week -
Did a 10k and picked up 20s/mi on pace --- pretty happy with that.
Also did a 40min TT on the bike (on the trainer) - tho I don't have a PM, but did see a decent increase over previous test in cadence and speed.
Won't hit the water seriously for another couple weeks.
The O/S plan that I am following focuses on the bike and run. Tho couple weeks back I did a long swim TT and I was on pace with where I was at the end of the season.
Fingers crossed - rubbing rabbit's foot - no injuries.
RV
It takes a long time to get good. - Scott Molina
Slow is smooth; smooth is fast. - Rich Strauss
Began incorporating speedwork into the marathon plan last week and all went well. Was able to do a 2 miles in 11:58 and 3 days later did 7 miles in the am, then in the afternoon 2 miles to the track where I did a 6:22 mile and a 6:15 mile with my heart rate under 160. Sunday was an 18 mile long run with lots of hills. Snowed like crazy for about 30 minutes. Felt great and the first time I have felt consistently strong in months. The next day I felt fresh. I know I am on track when I feel good on Monday mornings. Now some warmer weather would be great.
I had my first good swim ever a couple of days ago. I just started last year and am really slow. I did a 350 yard warmup, then 10x200 yard repeats. After all that huffing and puffing, I went to do my cooldown very smooth and relaxed. After my first 50 I realized I felt faster than I had my whole workout! So I timed myself... and was going about 10 seconds faster/100. Amazing. I swam again yesterday with that smooth mentality, and the same, faster results, with much less energy expended.
Timely thread. Am now in my final 3 weeks of prep before the taper for a March 16th marathon.
Last weekend's run I was to go at marathon goal pace for 13 miles or until I couldn't go anymore, whichever came first. Since it wasn't on fresh legs and after a solid week of training I knew it would be tough and the coach said to not worry if I only made it 6 or 7 miles. Ended up running 13 miles in 1:30:08. About a 15 minute PB from last year.
Yesterday it was another tough workout. Ran 1/4 as fast as I could, then rested for 1/2 the time it took me to run the 1/4. Then did the same for 1/2 mile, 3/4 mile, 1 mile, 3/4 mile, 1/2 mile then 1/4 mile. All the while resting/jogging for 1/2 the time it took me to finish the prior distance. Ran the mile in about 5:40 and was on 5:30-5:40 pace for the last 3/4, 1/2 and 1/4.
Today it was 10 miles at zone 2 avg, did it on sore/tired legs from the previous day's effort and averaged a smooth 7:15/mile pace.
Every run the last week or so seems to be a breakthrough for me, which is pretty cool.
I guess the long steady miles I've put in the last few months are starting to payoff/show dividends.
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2008 Main Races:
VA Beach Shamrock Marathon
Desoto TTT
WV Mountaineer HIM
IM Wisconsin
You guys are all making me jealous. I want to work hard and do testing, but my first A race isn't until August. I still have 5 more weeks of prep before I even get into the base period. Stop tempting me.
My blog: http://jsktri.blogspot.com
Well, my A race is IMWI in Sept.
I've been working with EnduranceNation this off-season and will be using their training methodology for the upcoming season.
It is a different approach from the long slow base stuff that most people follow.
See the article here on Trifuel:
http://www.trifuel.com/training/triathlon-training/the-endurance-nation-...
On the EN site there is lots of info describing the approach
http://www.endurancenation.us/en_forums/showthread.php?t=1478
RV
It takes a long time to get good. - Scott Molina
Slow is smooth; smooth is fast. - Rich Strauss
I also had my first swim test to wrap up Base 1. Unfortunately, I suck in the water, so I am a little slower than you. But this is actually pretty good for me.
1000 yards
1:435/ 100
Update-2/14
Run test today 1.5 miles on the track in 9:04- good for 6:03 miles. Not my best over the past couple years, but my best after Base 1- and not too far off the others- I will DEFINATELY take it!
Life is short. Play hard and get dirty doing it.
This wasn't a planned test workout because last week was supposed to be my highest hours to date. I had some knee pain early in the week so I ended up taking it easy and putting in 5.75 total hours. As a result my weekend races came after a lot of rest.
Anyway, this was my first weekend of collegiate cycling, with three races at Rutgers University.
Race 1 - Individual TT
My specialty, since it replicates everything I'm used to from triathlons. It was very short (just over 2.5 miles) so you had to drop the hammer from the start. I finished 2nd in the Men's D division which I was very pleased with.
Race 2 - Criterium
This was an entirely new experience for me, and I was very nervous going in. I have had little practice with riding in a pack, not to mention racing in one. Throw in some tight turns and furious paces and you have one scared rider. 10 minutes before the start I discovered I had a flat tire so I frantically set about changing it. I actually didn't need to rush because my race was 20 minutes later than I expected. I lined up in the back of the pack and rode there throughout the first lap. There was a 2 rider crash around the only sharp corner, and the pack broke up a lot after that point. I spent the rest of the race riding solo and trying to catch the group of 8-9 leaders. I moved up throughout the rest of the race, but couldn't catch the group on my own. Finished 16th/37
Race 3- Circuit race
Same idea as a crit, but with a longer lap and no free lap rule. The race was supposed to be 30 minutes, and I expected that to be 4 laps. Once again I started in the back, but there was enough room to maneuver to the front if needed. The group stayed together through 2 laps and I felt poised to strike and even thought about going on a breakaway just for kicks. In the middle of the third lap we began to break apart, and I didn't think I could maintain such a hot pace for another lap and a half. As we finished the lap everyone ahead of me was stopping, which was my first clue that we were only doing three laps. Apparently there was a sign held up after 2 laps which I never saw, but our finish time was about 20 minutes so we definitely should have done 4 total. Finished 15th/34 which was meaningless to me since I wasn't racing at the end.
Overall, I learned a lot from my first cycling races, and I look forward to improving on my performances from this weekend. Unfortunately that was the first and last Individual TT of the season so I don't get to try my strengths any more. I'm looking forward to trying some Team TT's and road races, and hopefully I will eventually have the guts to give a real effort in the crits and circuit races.
Nice job on the ITT. The TTTs are even more fun. After you do a few crits, they start to become more fun, too. Start near the front, though. There's less yo-yoing out of the corners and there's less liklihood of a crash. Somewhere about 5th-10th wheel is good. Do you have a spare kit? I give you 90% that you crash before the end of the season ;)
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-Matt
Not fast enough.
I'm still on a trainer but am taking an amazing cycling course designed for Little 500 training at Indiana University. The instructor is a triathlete. In our second assessment session in the 14 week course I substantially increased my max watts. Power has always been a weakness. So I'm feeling good knowing I can face the B'town hills in a couple of weeks. And this on less than fresh legs from an early spring marathon.
Di mana ada kemauan, di situ ada jalan (Where there is desire, there is a road). – Indonesian proverb
Last weekend was a road race at PSU. Very hilly area (there was a continuous climb from mile 11-18) which isn't my specialty, but I did pretty well. I got dropped by my group of 5 around mile 12, and then at mile 14 I caught them and continued on to catch 5 or so more riders by the top of the hill. Finished in 7th overall for D1 and D2 combined, which I was very happy with. There was actually an aero-legal ITT the next morning that I signed up for, but my driver decided not to stay the night. I was a bit disappointed because I was pretty confident I could win that race for my division, but I had a very busy weekend so it was alright.
This week's breakthrough was another swim workout: muscular endurance focus.
350 warm up
12x200 in 2:44.5 average, leaving every 4:00 (1:22/100y)
250 cool down
I know the rest is probably too high. I often rest a little more than I should, and I like to leave on even minutes because it makes it much easier to keep track. Consequently my intensity was higher than it should have been (I was planning on averaging 2:48) but I was very happy with the workout. I still remember two years ago when I was repping 200's at 4:00 each with about 2-3 minutes rest....and I could sprint one all out and finish around 3:15. Ahh, how I love the improvement curve in swimming. Still a long way to go though!
I've been seeing a lot of improvement in my swimming the last couple months, too. I'm up to almost 30,000m/wk, which is the most I've done since the old days of USS (which were sometimes 60k, so still not back there yet!). Anyway, this week I've been putting down my best times since high school. Yesterday I was doing LC 100s on 1:25, holding 1:13, which made me pretty happy. (That converts to doing roughly a 1:03 with 12 sec rest for short course repeats). I felt good enough to still do a 500m LT and another set of 100s after, too. Still waiting for a biking breakthrough, though....
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-Matt
Not fast enough.
I've been seeing a lot of improvement in my swimming the last couple months, too. I'm up to almost 30,000m/wk, which is the most I've done since the old days of USS (which were sometimes 60k, so still not back there yet!).
Are you kidding me? That's like almost 19 miles in the water - A WEEK! I'm pretty happy that I have been able to crank out 1500M without stopping, but on my schedule 5000m/wk would be a breakthrough!
Goals in writing are dreams with deadlines – Brian Tracy
2008 Sprint Tri A race goals
S: 500m in 10:00 – FS Stroke only
B: 22mph avg over course
R: 5K <= 25:00
Place top 50% for my age group
Yeah, I've been doing 3000y per session, 3-4 times per week which is a fairly large volume increase for me. And as always, Gator puts everyone to shame! But seriously, nice workouts man...its always a great feeling to improve, especially when you're at such a high level to begin with. Since you used up all your bad luck last season, this year will hopefully be a great time to go out and win big. Keep working on getting the fitness to make it happen.
Here's hoping.....I've already had one DFL this season! (hence the increase in pool time--LOL!)
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-Matt
Not fast enough.
Gator, when do you study?
Success comes before work only in the dictionary
I don't. I just cheat.
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-Matt
Not fast enough.
I don't. I just cheat.
I'd hire you in a heartbeat.
500 yds in 6:40 - 10 seconds too slow - but close
Success comes before work only in the dictionary
Swim test #2. Same warm up
1000y TT in 13:45 (1:22.5/100y).
I'm very happy with this performance! Cut 35 seconds off of my time 2 months ago, which was somewhat expected because my swim training has been going very well. I still started way too fast, and felt like I was going to throw up with 2 laps to go, but I'm happy with the outcome!
Splits:
100- 1:14
250- 3:13 (1:17)
500- 6:43 (1:21)
1000- 13:45 (1:22.5)
Yesterday I did the Tierra Bella 200K. It was cold and windy. I had the race wheels on the tri bike because I wanted to see what it would be like to ride the distance with the varied terrain and conditons. 121.91 miles on the bike, the Garmin reporting 8359' of ascent, followed by a 30 minute run. My legs felt great coming off the bike. Both the bike and run seemed effortless. With the exception of falling down at a stop light because some dirt clogged my pedal, it was a great day.
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Yesterday I had a 35 mi bike ride in an enjoyable pace. I had 40 min rest, and then I went out for a run. I did 5 mi and avg 7:40min/mi, which is the best I have done so far this year, I really suck at running.
How do I get better at running? Is it just keep running, sometimes long and sometimes shorter and fast?
How do I get better at running?
Run more often. What does a typical week of running look like for you?
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I'm running 3-4-5 times a week, between 5 and 8 miles typically each time. However, the past couple of weeks I keep getting pain (from other stuff) - and I have quite some difficulties getting out on the run by myself. And then the time is a strict limiter, as I want to swim and I love biking (and I hate running compared to the other two)
I don't know what your distance is but the Hal Higdon plans are pretty good. This one is a 10 week buildup for 10 miles. It is the advanced plan but note in the text describing the workouts there are Novice and Intermediate plans as well. Please choose appropriately as injury would certainly be the result of too much too quickly.
http://www.halhigdon.com/15Ktraining/15Kadvsch.htm
The site has plans for every distance and every level. You can find novice-advanced plans for whatever distance you're looking for.
I'd hesitate to incorporte one of these into a triathlon training plan. But if you're not using a plan and want to focus on your running...
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Run test- determining LT
15 min run warmup, some pick ups on the track and plyos + stretching
Test: continuous run on the track, recording time and HR every 200m. Started slowly, and increase effort after each 200 so each rep is 3-5 seconds faster than the previous one. When labored breathing is first noticed, it is marked as VT to signify the ventilatory threshold.
Results:
Split Time HR
1 .. 65 .. 144
2 .. 56 .. 156
3 .. 54 .. 160
4 .. 53 .. 167
5 .. 44 .. 171
6 .. 43 .. 175
7 .. 40 .. 179 *VT
8 .. 34 .. 183
9 .. 33 .. 185
Based on perceived exertion, I was hitting LT somewhere between split 6 and 7. Since the VT corresponds with this point, and it falls within the last 5 splits I determined 178 bpm to be my lactate threshold.
This is important because I was previously assuming LT to be around 171 or 172, and my training zones were not even correct based off of that assumption. A single test will never be completely accurate, but with future testing I can fine tune this data to zero in on LT.
I think you need to be doing longer intervals and smaller increases in speed if you're going to be doing this. A 3-5 sec/200m drop is about 24-40 sec/mile. Also, HR lag takes a bit to catch up to your effort level. My last LT test was 3 min between a 20 sec/mile increase. A good LT test lasts about 30-45 minutes. 43sec/200m is 5:44/mile LT, meaning your 10k should be about 35:30.
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-Matt
Not fast enough.
Yeah, it did seem too fast and short. I got the workout from Friel's testing section, but I believe I started too fast and increased too quickly. I definitely don't think the pace reflects my LT pace, so maybe the HR isn't accurate either.
To be honest I've just been a bit scared of the effort required for a 10k TT or the standard 30 minute run taking the HR in the last 30 minutes. The graded track intervals seemed much quicker and easier, but I will probably do a longer effort soon to get better data. Thanks for the advice!
Today I began with a bike ride, and then I went to the pool. My main set was:
100-200-300-400
1st round was freestyle: 1.40-2.40-3.40-4.40
2nd round was IM: 2.00-3.00-4.00-5.00
It was the first time in a year that I swam fast stuff like this, so I'm happy it went good, and I just made the 400 IM.
I'm primarily a swimmer, that's why the fast sent offs, but other people can do the same with modified sent offs. For example if you swim 100 in 2 min, you can swim it as 50s like 1:30-2:40-3:50-5:00 and so on, and see when you can't make it anymore. That's a good test set to see if you improve your swimming.












As winter begins to ebb, people should be getting into the heart of their tri training. That of course means some needed rest weeks and the accompanying breakthrough/test workouts to track fitness progress. Use this thread to report on any test workouts you would like to share (not an every day "what was your workout" post, just the key performances. Perhaps some 'C' races which you are training through and don't want to write a full report about).
My first swim test was today: 15 minutes of drills for warm up, then a 1000y TT finishing in 14:20 (1:26/100y). I checked my 500y split and it was 6:59, and I was already slowing down at that point. My first 250 was too fast, but I felt very fluid and my form seemed great (for me at least). My goal was to break 14:30, so this was an encouraging result!