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Faster running off MTB. am I Weird??

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started by Evomike1 on February 11, 2008

I am new to running, not biking, or swimming.
I have been seriously training for sprint distance, about 3 weeks now.
Over this time I have noticed that I run faster, and more comfortably after a hard 10-15m bike. I ride a decent MTB, so it not an ideal situation. But, interestingly it works for me. My questions are...
1) Am I crazy? does this happen to other athletes?

2) Would it be a very bad idea to just do bricks 3x a week?
(since it seems to work for me?)

Thank you in advance, Mike

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ChunkyB posted 34 weeks ago.

is "10-15m" miles or minutes. If it's minutes, then it probably is just a good warm up, and I wouldn't really consider it a brick. If it's miles, I have no idea. Maybe you are crazy. Maybe it helps that your heart rate is already at a good level. When I run, my heart rate shoots sky high, so maybe it helps to have already been working at an aerobic level for a while.

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Iron Dan posted 34 weeks ago.

I would not advise doing (3) brick workouts a week because it will be harder improve your running if you are constantly doing a run after a bike when you are tired. Also, how long are you taking between the end of your bike and the beginning of your run?

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tri-ac posted 34 weeks ago.

if you need more running work, plan on doing more of that discipline to get your body used to it.

there's no need for a brick everytime you run

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Evomike1 posted 34 weeks ago.

Thanks for the info. I ment 10-15 miles, sorry for the confusion.
have been working on the learning Evolution running form. It has helped me alot. Before I started I could not run more than a mile. Now (with the right pace) I can run 4 miles.

What if I rode my bike to my gym (5.5Miles) and then run? It more like a mini brick.

I am thinking about doin a mini brick 1x, full brick 1x, and a regular run 1x/ week.

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scottbland247 posted 34 weeks ago.

(take into account that this is from a guy training for his first tri so I am not experienced)

I do a rotation for my excercise where I swim two or three days a week and on the days I am not swimming I do a rotation of bike/run that includes:

1. long run (currently an hour but working toward 90 min)
2. bike intervals (30sec or 1min sprints with 1-2min slow rides between for 45min)
3. Brick (45min on bike......15 minute run)
4. Tempo run (hard 5k......i'm training for a sprint dist first)
5. long ride (currently 19 miles and working toward about 90min total)
5. Interval run (5 hard half miles with a quarter jog between)
6. Brick (45min on bike......15 minute run)
7. tempo ride (hard 13 miles)

(wednesday is also a rest day so I may not do a specific exercise for 8-10 days)

I don't think this is perfect but it has worked great for me.....i've been doing it since thanksgiving and here's where it's got me improvement wise

Swim- from only being able to do 25yards and then die to swimming a 400 yesterday in 11min
bike- from not being able to go more than 5 miles without stopping to averaging over 17mph for a hilly 13mile ride
run-from not being able to slowly jog a mile to a 25minute 5k (I'm even happier that im pulling 9:30min/miles on my long runs for an hour and they don't seem hard at all)

I've also lost 25lbs

this might help, or not, but it's all about the journey so good luck bro

It is better to hurt from doing something than from doing nothing...

First Triathlon (400m/20k/2.75mile) 1:39.15 including 33 minutes in the water

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Triguy98 posted 34 weeks ago.

the 10- 15 miles has just warmed you up. The mistake a lot of new runners make is assuming you're going to just take off on your workout. You can, but youre not gonna see the best performance. With a stand alone running workout, run easy untill you are lightly sweating, stop and stretch, then proceed with the workout.

Since you are new to running, I strongly suggest keeping it light and easy for a couple months. Even after that, dont go crazy with intervals or repeats or the like. A lot of people just jump right into hard or long stuff and end up getting hurt.

Life is short. Play hard and get dirty doing it.

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scottbland247 posted 34 weeks ago.

I should probably temper what i said earlier to include triguy98's comments.........i didn't do any interval or speed workout's until i was running 3 miles with no trouble.......and even then I was only running 2-3 times a week (and more than half of that is on a treadmill.....easier on bones, joints)

you don't gain anything by pushing so hard that your bones give out

It is better to hurt from doing something than from doing nothing...

First Triathlon (400m/20k/2.75mile) 1:39.15 including 33 minutes in the water

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stewarba posted 34 weeks ago.

The sensation I get coming of the bike is a lighter feeling when I start running which lasts for about quarter mile, then I end up having cramping calves for another 1/4 mile (which usually only happens the first 3 or 4 times until my body starts to adjust) and then I get into a nice steady pace for the rest of the run.

I guess the initial sensation is one of improved performance for me, but once the blood shifts from the quads to the hammies, it feels like any other run I do. I should caveat this with although it feels like I am running faster, the reality (according to my Garmin 301) is that my pace is only average.

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Milesofsmiles15 posted 30 weeks ago.

i always feel better running after a bike as well, not as much on bricks, but more if i bike in the morning, and run at night