Work, Family and Training....how?
No worries... you aren't alone there. Although no kids for me (so far) I still have fun trying to balance full time work and part time graduate school. It just takes getting stuff done at lunch when I can, or early in the morning.
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I hear you man. Even though i'm 17, I try to balance my triathlon training with school, home work, part time job, wrestling practice, college applications, scholarship competitions. The ONLY time I can train is early in the morning.....
Dude, I don't know how you do it. Looking at your list, the only thing you and I have in common is that we both work full-time. I don't know how I would do it if 1) I were married and/or 2) had kids. As you would suspect, my days consists of (in order and entirety) training, work, training, sleep. (Granted, I am five months out from Ironman.) The couples I know who are able to balance training with work and family is that they have a very supportive spouse/partner who does NOT train . . . at all. She (or he) does the dirty work to help out the one who is training: washing training, clothes, keeping groceries stocked. But I suspect that would get old very quickly. Good luck.
So 325 hours a year of training and a 13hr finish gets you into the 16th percentile at Ironman Germany? Dude, wait, what?
clones.
I am still working on it. but I ride the trainer a lot more than I should at ungodly times and try to sneak workouts in at lunchtime (babywipes comes in handy for aquick cleanup after a run BTW)
Hey brother. Some support for you.
I'm 37 years old. I'm a full time Microbiology and Immunoloyg student at University of BC (Canada). I have just applied to Medical school (fingers crossed please). I work part time bartending and part time coaching. I have a wife and an 18 month old son. I am training for Ironman Canada this August (my 4th one). Every day I struggle to get the one or two workouts in. Last night I did my bike trainer workout at 10pm in our bedroom, then showered, ate a little, then studied, made lunch and went to bed. This morning I blew off swimming so I could help my wife get ready for an important meeting. I'll try to fit in a smaller swim later and then a 35 min run workout (probably late again). I literally just put my head down and ask every 5 minutes "can I nip out for my run?". If I get the ok, I dash out and go. If at the end of the day no "ok" came my way, then life trumps triathlon. You are definitely not alone. I've really accepted that it would be nice to be a regular person with a job and money and the ability to set my schedule...but that's not me. So just keep pluggin away!! Message me anytime!!! Peace,
Stuart
Well I'm in the same boat as you, and it's definately not easy. I am training for my first Ironman, CDA, in June and have a wife and 2 kids. I also have a more than full time job as a medical device rep, so I can't really train in the mornings as I am typically in a hospital. It all boils down to a very loving and supportive family. I am not the typical triathlete by any stretch, but everyone in my life is extremely proud of what I am trying to accomplish. Also my kids love going to the gym with dad. At 6 and 4 they like to play in the gym playroom while dad swims or runs. As for my rides i try to take them with me at least once a week. Yea it's not a fast training ride but hauling an extra 80lbs in a burly trailer does make it a workout. All i can say is keep your head down and promise the wife a nice vacation after you accomplish what you are trying to do. My wife is going to start training for an Ironman after I've completed mine, so I'll be on the sidelines cheering her on.
Good luck
I can see how the old ball and chain would hurt triathlong performance. Pulling you under during the swim, and dragging you back on the bike/run legs?? Not looking forward to it!
All joking aside, I think the college life is very conducive to effective triathlon training. The day is broken up a lot more than doing full time work, so you can fit in workouts wherever you want. I still have time management problems now and then, but nothing like the folks with a job, spouse and kids!
I'm fairly new to the tri scene but I feel the same way- where does everyone that does triathlons find the time?! I have two young children, work part-time as a Forester and a very busy husband that works full time and is on the volunteer fire department, as well as every other volunteer service in town... so I too feel like I am 'sneaking out' when I get away... I just try to keep communications betweeen hubby and myself open because I do notice he gets frustrated that we're always passing each other in the doorway. I need his support first and foremost if I want to accomplish my goal of doing IM Canada in 2012... I too use the bike trailer/jogging stroller in the summer, and have learned to be very flexible, I used to prefer training in the morning but now I get it in whenever, wherever!! If I have to get a run in late at night, that's when I do it, or at lunch when my hubby come home, coercing friends into babysitting for us once a week so we can sneak out for a 'date night' at the pool... aka recovery swim night...
I have a friend that makes sure he takes time each week to take his kids out to do something just with them, to make sure they stay connected, I think he takes them out for Saturday morning breakfast, he says it helps alleviate the guilt that accumulates during the week from him being at work, training etc.
I suspect all us triathletes have the same issue in some form or another, all it boils down to is hoping your family can understand that being able to do this sport makes you a happier, healthier person, and that on race day they will be there cheering you on- lux SUV or not, because they are as much a part of this sport as your training. Best of luck with your juggling act!!
Really great feedback. What a great community this is!
I am pretty lucky at the moment. I don't work, so have all the time in the world to train. That being said, I have juggled worked and trained (for 2 IM's), and my husband currently does as well --he finished his first IM last summer. We both race Tris and marathons. We plan vacations around some races to make it a bit more fun. He bike commutes 20 miles each way to work as a way to get his cycling in (pre-retirement I did the same) and runs at lunch. On days he swims, he does it in the evening when he gets home. Luckliy we have a endless pool, so this can be done virtually any time. Long rides/runs are done together on the weekends. It is fun to have a built in training partner(except sometimes on the bike--I HATE cycling and I get frustrated sometimes on long rides, because he is better than I am) and For my first IM when I wasnt running at lunch time, I was taking a quick nap on the couch provided at work. My employer was good enough to let me extend my lunch a bit a couple days a week to get a slightly longer run in. We both are (were) lucky enough to have showers/lockers at work which makes running at lunch easier.
If we end up with kids we have decided we will alternate races each year. I don't know how that will work, as I am so used to training on the weekends with him but that is a bridge to cross if and when it ever happens. It's nicer now, at least I have time to get all the laundry done-- work out clothes account for LOADS even with just the 2 of us.
Currently no kids in our household, but our neighbors have 5 and 7yr old boys, and both of them just finished their first full tri season. How? She gets to work out on Mon and Thurs mornings while he handles getting the kids up and ready. He gets Tues and Fri mornings. Wednesday mornings, they have a friend who stays at the house while they swim together at 5am. Then they sort out the weekend runs/rides around kids' soccer games and such, and all evenings are for family time with each other and their sons.
I'm impressed how they balance it. Definitely seems to take a willingness to communicate and to validate each other's personal priorities (whether it's needing time for a brick workout or just a mani/pedi with the girls). Good luck! It's definitely one of those things we talk about whenever we contemplate having kids.
"It's very hard in the beginning to understand that the whole idea is not to beat the other runners. Eventually you learn that the competition is against the little voice inside you that wants you to quit." ~George Sheehan
My wife and I are into triathlon. Between work and training, there really isn't time for much else. On the weekends, we see each other in passing as we're heading out, and occasionally we run into each other out on the road while riding. But at the end of the day, we sit down at the table and have dinner together and trade stories from our day. My wife and I have a great relationship and I think for us that is the key.
It's funny this topic has come up because I just mentioned to her the other day how I haven't ever had the Ironman discussion with her. IMO, Ironman is a commitment that you AND your spouse are making and both should have a say in the decision. It can put a real strain on the relationship, especially if this spouse isn't into triathlon and doesn't know what is involved.
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I'm 38 with a wife and two kids aged 3 and 7. It would be impossible without a wife who respects and supports what I do, even though she doesn't understand it. The key, as stated many times above, is time management. I am up at 5:00 am and working out by 5:45 or 6:00 on the 5 days per week that my schedule allows. I rush in and help get my kids dressed and ready for the day.I am done working at 3:30 so I usually can fit in a 1 to 2 hour workout in at that time as well. When I get home we eat dinner and then play some type of game for an hour or so. 2 or 3 times a week I get my lifting in or any additional swims or indoor training rides after I put the kids to bed. I never miss reading them books and tucking them in. Saturday mornings are usually reserved for a quick speed workout and then most of the day is family day. Sunday mornings are when I get the sustained long runs, bikes, or bricks in. You can make it work if you can deal with 7 or 6 hours of sleep a few nights per week. The only real sacrifice, to me, has been the reduction in weekend socializing. Whenever something comes up and the schedule needs to be changed the workout gets dropped for family.
The keys for me for training and racing while balancing work/family life are:
1. Supportive wife
2. Training with intensity
3. Limiting myself to sprint/olympic distances
4. Jogging stroller
5. Gym with childcare for my swim training
6. Skimping on bike training
7. Being happy with middle-of-the-pack times and a happy family waiting for me at the finish line.
The keys for me for training and racing while balancing work/family life are:
1. Supportive wife
2. Training with intensity
3. Limiting myself to sprint/olympic distances
4. Jogging stroller
5. Gym with childcare for my swim training
6. Skimping on bike training
7. Being happy with middle-of-the-pack times and a happy family waiting for me at the finish line.
Truly an important topic-family always first....
I am a 34 year old mother of two very active kids-swimming, tae kwon, do, choir, and various school activities. My husband and I work full time. He gives me mornings (fortunately I am an early bird-4:30am) and I do afternoons. I go in to work at 7:00 so that I can be home when the kids get home from school. I ride my trainer all year round and only go out on the roads for long weekend rides. I am the master at sneaking in short quality runs during the week. Lunch hours, during kids swim lessons, right after an early morning swim. On the weekends I do my best to get the long runs and rides out of the way early and the rest of the time is devoted to kids and husband.
All said and done I could not do any of it with out my husband's support. I don't commit to any long race or heavy training season without the consent and commitment from my family.
To keep it fun, we often plan a get a way weekend whenever I have a long ride. We find a fun place to camp. I get up early to head out on a 100 mile ride, husband and kids meet me for a picnic and sag wagon me for awhile and then we enjoy a fun family weekend.
I truly love the sport and love that my family is so involved. I show my appreciation often and urge my husband to speak up if I am ever taking too much time away from us.
Good luck....communicate with your family to find what works for you.
35, 1yr old son, 45 hr/wk job with travel every other week, and I have a super hot tri-wife. Some of the things I do to keep her from walking out the door:
- 'dualing trainers' in the garage with the wife before our son wakes up (6am - 7:15am), 2x a week.
- early morning runs and swims before work. No body misses you before 8am.
- make every workout count, no junk miles (read: intensity)
- keep long rides to 5 hrs., just go faster (I did creep upto 6.5 hrs in the 2 months before IMFL)
- bought a pull up bar and stretch cords to do resistance training at home, rather than being out longer.
- all hail the baby jogger - strength trainning of kings
- We never, never, never train on Sundays. It's family/church time that puts some boundaries on my obsession. NEVER.
This strategy still allows me to complete the IM distance.
married, 36, 3 yr old boy...my wife works (and works out) too, so i try to split responsibilities tho honestly she does most of the house management (bills, food)
i work +/-9hrs/day and commute by bike (only 3mi)
i get up at 5a to work out 5 days
i work out at lunches 3 days and eat while I work afterwards
long rides/runs occur on the weekend either early in the morning or during nap time (which is less reliable and frequent now...after a stretch of weeks of being tied to home for training simplicity, there's usually a rebellion to get away somewhere for at least a day together as a family.
i'm home for dinner at 6p and spend the early evening with my son before he goes to bed
after he's in bed, we sigh and slump on the couch and try to catch up on what we each did that day, or we may have some work to catch up on
lights out by 11p
it is difficult to maintain this schedule because it's so tight (not much room for flexibility)...there always ends up some important surprise that eliminates a workout...today it's a lunch meeting so I'm going to run home instead of biking, then go back after my son's in bed and pick up my stuff
races are planned as a family...i make special effort to be available to support my wife's independent activities and my son's
i think what i'm saying is I hear ya, grizzlytrout...do you best to carve out time for you AND equal time for your family
Kudos to all of you...except Brittda who doesn't work. (total joke)
I'm going to stay out of this discussion.
I have a supportive wife. I'm a supportive husband. I have plenty of time and summers off. No kids.
It will change though...I'm planning on retiring next year and going back to college and an encore career.
"What would life be if we had no courage to attempt anything?" - Vincent Van Gogh
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Kudos to all of you...except Brittda who doesn't work. (total joke)
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ohhhhhhhh...... that was kinda ugly. I HAVE though :(
What a great post for a superb sanity check.
I'm right in here with many of you - 38, 4.5 year old and a 3 month old, wife is stay at home, but going to school to get her masters. I run an M&A department for a wildly growing company and often work 14 hour days.
I use some of the same strategies above - I do as much as I can at home - got an inexpensive treadmill for running and setup the bike trainer in the basement. Have already logged many an hour in my aerobars making funny faces at my younger son hoping he won't start crying in his bouncy seat. Actually found it kinda helps the time go by...
Also found that incorporating the family into my workouts has been helpful - I'll do training rides with my 4.5 year old on a trail-a-bike behind me, or pushing one of them around in a jogging stroller for runs. Also, going to the pool during family swim so we can all get in, but I can jump into the one lane available works great too - my 4.5 year old occasionally jumps on my during my lap, which is helpful for the start of the race anyway...
I also find late nights and early mornings as times when I can git things in that otherwise were blocked out.
Couldn't do it if it weren't for my wife's understanding. Even though she's not as nearly into working out as me, she does get my interest, which is really helpful. It doesn't run perfectly - there's always the occasional time when I'm itching to get my workout in and time just doesn't allow it.
I also found that scheduling my workouts with eraceplanner has helped. Actually knowing what I'm trying to work-in during the week makes a big difference, because I can help avoid certain time blocks.
To tri or not to tri - that's not a question at all!
As I read through the comments, it's clear that (despite our situational differences) everyone here has one thing in common - a draw to the challenge. You've undoubtedly heard someone say, "If it was easy, then everyone would be doing it." It's as simple as that.
For those of us with kids, a spouse, work, and miscellaneous other obligations, I think that "how?" is best answered in three parts:
1. planning - You have to have time allocated for all of your obligations. For most of us work is unavoidable, but family has to come before everything else. Without their support, your train will inevitably derail. Make your plans crystal clear and you will find that picking up additional hours here and there is much easier.
2. commitment - Demonstrate dedication. After all, the greatest reflection of success lies in convincing people that you're successful. Setting clear goals and executing a plan will show everyone involved that you're not just jumping on a passing bandwagon.
3. acceptance - Adding tri training to your daily juggling act is a choice. To be successful, accept the fact that you will probably be burning the candle at both ends. I'd say that at least 80% of my training happens after 8pm and before 7am. At 10+ hours a week, do the math.
As for myself, I have a VERY supportive wife, two kids (both under 2), 9+hour workdays, 3-4 solid hours of family time each night, and 10-14 hours of weekly training. In all honesty, if someone (outside of the forum) were to ask me how it all gets done, I would invariably answer, "I don't know ... it just does."
i second the planning. i usually train 10-12 hours per week - but i wake up daily at 0430 and am in the gym/pool/road by 0530. i work out until about 0700 and then i'm at the desk by 0730. on the weekends i get up early on sundays or saturdays (sometimes!) and get an extra long work out in while most folks are sleeping.
i have a five year old, a three year old, a wife, a career that takes up about 50 hours per week,
planning is what let's me do all that, eat decent (not great!) and still train enough to have a good time - maybe not podium finish...
....oh and fly fishing gets a fair share of time as well!
Anton wrote:Kudos to all of you...except Brittda who doesn't work. (total joke)
.ohhhhhhhh...... that was kinda ugly. I HAVE though :(
Ok...Kudos to you too! I'm just jealous!
"What would life be if we had no courage to attempt anything?" - Vincent Van Gogh
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brittda wrote:Anton wrote:Kudos to all of you...except Brittda who doesn't work. (total joke)
.ohhhhhhhh...... that was kinda ugly. I HAVE though :(
Ok...Kudos to you too! I'm just jealous!
:) If it makes you feel better, I gave up a pretty good paycheck for it.
I plan more contract work again this year, so it may not be for long.
Was it just a paycheck? If it was just a check...better to be free and following a passion.
If your passion comes with a paycheck...all the better!
Good luck.
I am always impressed by you folks who get it all in. I stopped competing for 8 years to raise a daughter...she was a hand full. I ran, maybe twice a week, and lifted...but as to time and money to train...not possible.
Keep it up you guys...you give lie to those who say "I don't have enough time!"
"What would life be if we had no courage to attempt anything?" - Vincent Van Gogh
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yes , yes it was just a paycheck. Now I can decide what I want to be when I grow up.
I too am impressed. I honestly don't know how y'all with kids do it. Way to go! You are ALL super heroes to me :)
Two kids... 3 years and 4 mos and a demanding job (School Principal).
I am picking my battles and trying to keep my goals more personal than external.
Right now, going for a HIM in April... Hope to finish respectably.
I haven't done the baby joggers. The early AM is your best option. I love the comment "no one misses you before 8 AM."
One piece of advice on what NOT to do... Don't compare yourself to the field in places like San Diego.
"No body misses you before 8am." -Leroy Bonkers
A lot of great advice, but here is something my wife and I do that I did not see mentioned. On the way to an activity, whether it be my daughter's swim class or play date, one of us rides or runs to the destination. Example...my daughter (5) takes a swim class Saturday morning. I am trainig for Ironman 70.3 in Providence. So, I leave the house for a long run and meet them at the pool. I watch her during the class, and my wife goes for a run. We all grab showers at the end of the class and have lunch together.
It is just like anything you make important to you...if it is important enough, you make it work.
The pattern for success that I am seeing here seems to be VERY EARLY MORNINGS. My wife and I have not developed this trait ... yet. Maybe when we have a little one waking us up. In the meantime, I'll keep setting the alarm for EARLY and end up hitting SNOOZE.
My worst enemy is the one hour commute to work each way on the bus. Since I haven't found a safe bike route to work I have to pack my workouts into lunch runs and/or after work workouts. Weekday bikes are on the trainer after dark.
My wife DOES get frustrated when I try to make up workouts on the weekend b/c it looks like I'm neglecting other parts of family life. She works too and it's obviously not fair to make her do all of the house work, cooking, etc. while I'm riding my bike.
Maybe we triathletes in the USA should lobby for the 35 hour work week, like some of the Europeans get. After all, we have 3 disciplines to train for, which are all much more important than work ;-)
Well, as a 32y/o dad of 4(all under 10),the last being born approx. 6 weeks out from IMKY last year,working 40+hrs/wk, I think I am somewhat an expert on this subject. First and foremost, FAMILY comes first. There is no dodging this. 10-20-50 years from now, your triathlon history really won't matter to you. Your family, grandkids and great-grandkids will, however. In my case, I trained when I could. Early A.M, lunch, late P.M, 2Xday-3xday, whenever. If I was needed elsewhere, I went. I never lost sleep over a missed workout. And I'm a really competitive person. MOP athlete in most races, but still very competitive within. It sucks missing workouts, but it does happen within families. My wife does not tri, she does enjoy walking and a few of the group classes at the gym. Normally, we have an agreement that my time to workout is early in the morning 4:30-7:00, just before work. My wife goes after work. If I don't go at my time, then I have only two other choices-Lunch or late P.M when everybody is asleep. You just do them when you can. Maybe your kids will become interested in triathlon by watching you and want to do some on their own. That's what my oldest has done. I am proud of my IMKY finish from last year, but even more satisfied in the fact that I never once missed a baseball practice, game, dance recital, kids triathlon or birth of my 4th child. If you're just wanting to do olys and sprints, you should have plenty of time to fit in life and training. If you're looking to try some long distance racing, maybe sit down with the wife, talk about 1 race you want to do, let her know it's going to take more time than normal, and fit in the traing when you can. Then when it's over, take a few weeks or even months, and let things settle back to normal. You can do it.
-Johnie
Like JohnieTri said above, it can be done but it needs balance and you need to put your priorities straight.
As a 35yo with two stepkids (12 and 9) and two kids of my own (2 and 6 months), and the youngest being born 4 weeks from IMWI last year I had my hands full. Especially with a pregnant wife all summer.
The key thing I found was to try to schedule big workouts (read long ones) and try to fit the shorter stuff in whenever I could. Since I get to get away for an hour each day for lunch I used it to run or swim. I could then get 2-3 shorter rides in each weeknight and a long ride and or run in on the weekend. But I really had to watch trying to beat myself up by getting mad whenever I missed a workout due to family things. For instance almost a month to the day before IMWI I had a long saturday ride and long sunday run scheduled until my dad showed up with a big ass swingset he bought for my daughter's birthday. It took me two full days to put it together and I skipped the ride and run, but I didn't get worked up as I knew what my priorities were.
Interestingly, I had told my wife that I would take a year or two off from Ironman and just do short races, but she didn't get to go to IMWI with me and once she saw the pictures and the webcast she caved and let me sign up for next year :) And since she's not pregnant this summer it will be easier to get more workouts in.
So, other than difficulty with the 6-7 hour long rides it wasn't and hasn't been too bad fitting time in for workouts. I figure with just the time spent each week during lunch hour and an hour a night training instead of watching TV or vegging out you can get in 8-10 hours easily.
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this is great advice. We're bombing right now though. We added a second daughter right after my steelhead 70.3 finish on August and everything has been dumped upside down and has not gotten back on track. up to that point however, a supportive (even though pregnant) wife was a major blessing. Working out in the morning and over lunch and being okay with missing workouts were key.
This year with the addition of the new one and my wife wanting to tri too we'll definitely need to dig deeply into the ideas posted here. Thanks for kick starting us to move beyond the self pity of our situation and that all of you are doing it and we can too.
Things we'll probably do:
alternate morning workouts and getting the family ready
i'll continue to work out over lunch - not an option for my wife
re-engage the baby jogger (ours never tracks straight which is annoying)
invest in a bike trainer so we can 'ride' before the sun comes up
get my butt off the sofa after the kids' bedtime...sigh.....if for no other reason that to prep for the next day
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Wow - you are all heroes to me! I was just commenting to my mom yesterday about how it's amazing that people with families can be such successful triathletes. She met some families when we were down at IMFL where both parents were racing and had 2-3 kids! I think the key is also the type of people triathletes are - we like to plan and stay busy. I know that I love scheduling and planning my days in advance. At the start of tri season, I sit down and plan out my training schedule for most of the year and I look forward to doing it. We're great at time management and it's a skill you develop as the years go by.
In the last couple of months of my training for IMFL, I was totally consumed by what time I had to get into work to get out early for my long runs (I like doing them on Thurs afternoons) or how many hours I had in the day to get in all my training. I can't imagine throwing kids into the mix! I do like longhair's approach with his kid's swim practices - I guess you have to be creative and flexible. I'm lucky that I have a supportive husband who understood the time investment I needed to train for IM and how tired I always was towards the end of IM training. Luckily he rides and runs too, and he always looked forward to our 100+ mile rides together. He's not a swimmer, but I swim early before work, so it never became an issue between us. He walks the dogs in the morning and I walk them when I get home b/c I get home earlier. Not the same responsibility as kids, but still something that's looming over you when you need to get a workout done in the afternoons!
So I guess it boils down to time management, your priorities, being flexible, having support from your sign. other, and remember to always have fun!
I am a 37yr old father of two beautiful girls one 11, the other two. I have been racing for 4yrs now and am finally getting to the front of the pack. My wife does not tri but is extremely supportive. I have been on trifuel for years now and find this to be the most inspiring thread to date. I constantly struggle to balance work, family, and a social life. Now that I am finally getting competitive I switched jobs and find myself working many more hours. I just want to thank everyone for their honest suggestions and hope to see many more families at the next race.



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I'm an adequate to average 35 year old performer on a hanful of Olympic-distance tris ever year as well as the old marathon, 10k, XC Ski race, etc. Working full time (which means more than full time), raising two kids as actively as a working dad can and sharing household duties, I struggle every day to carve out time to train - often feeling like I'm sneaking away from either work or home.
I know it's only my perception but it seems to me that everyone I see at races is able to train two hours a day, has a beautiful, happy family rooting them on and drives away in a luxury SUV.
I would love it if anyone wanted to share "real life" stories of trying to make it all work as well as any suggestions to fit it all in.