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Elliptical Marathon/Ironman???

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started by Tommy Q on January 25, 2008

Help Please. I am a 60 year old 1 time Ironman, I am signed up for IM Arizona in November. Here is my question. My knees are killing me (severe arthritis in both knees, partial miniscus removed in right). My doc has shot me up with cortisone (as he did last year to get me thru Florida IM, still they hurt), but he has informed me I am getting close to bone on bone, a situation I do not desire. Has anyone ever heard of training solely on an elliptical (less pounding) and then running the Ironman leg with literally no training per se all year. Am I crazy? I think my knees will hold up for one last effort if i save them all year. Has anyone you heard of done this before? Doc has fitted me with a brace and heel cups to help correct bow-legged running (hopefully realign my knees some). Thanks in advance for your comments.

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scottbland247 posted 32 weeks ago.

unfortunately i have no advice but you are one hardcore dude

all bow before tommy q

It is better to hurt from doing something than from doing nothing...

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Leroy Bonkers posted 32 weeks ago.

Hardcore indeed.

I think it's possible, given a good bike split and a decent swim. You've got 17hours right?

So think about a 1.5 hour swim and an 8 hour bike (14mph). That still leaves you 7.5 hours to complete the marathon. That's 3.5mph, or a brisk walk. Inserting a few minutes of jogging every mile and you could easily beat that. Even if you work the numbers to consider 15min each in transition you still have to do at least 16 min miles to finish before you transform from fierce ironman competitor to some weirdo walking around the desert in the dark wearing spandex.

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TriSooner posted 32 weeks ago.

Larry's right: work on your swim and bike and walk the 26.2. Consider whatever running you can do "icing on the cake" at IM AZ.

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Leroy Bonkers posted 32 weeks ago.

Larry?

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kakman posted 32 weeks ago.

I was at a local OD last week and there was a guy walking the entire run leg. He was wearing a t-shirt which read:

Run
Bike
Walk
Knee reconstruction - NO RUNNING

Whilst I don't see a knee reco as reason not to run (I've had my right knee done and still run), it may be that his knee is a lot worse than mine and he wants to compete whilst minimising the chance of further damage. If I were TommyQ I'd be looking to walk it out - you don't want to be accelerating the trip for a knee replacement.

/k

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tri-ac posted 32 weeks ago.

It seems a dumb distinction, but using the elliptical without holding on at all is the way to get the most out of that workout to simulate running. I did this as a substitute last winter when getting over ITBS issues. It's easier than running, but it's still valuable time.

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sourbubblegum1 posted 25 weeks ago.

save your knees!!!!! i wouldnt even do the ironman if i had this problem. What about improving your time in a shorter race? I think the elliptical is a good crosstraining for running. Swimming and biking are also good for nonimpact. good luck

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kylie posted 25 weeks ago.

There are some great aquabike's at the iron-distance, too. They might be fun.

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sourbubblegum1 posted 25 weeks ago.

If you are intending to run with osteoarthritis I think it is better to avoid training on concrete (run on asphalt instead). Run outside only once a week at a short distance and base the rest of your running on the treadmill or elliptical. This may help.