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started by deepbluex on January 23, 2008

I've gained about 5 pounds over the holidays between Thanksgiving and New Year. Overall, I'd like to lose 8-10 pounds between now and June - basically going from 152 lb @ 5'9 to low 140s.

I am a pretty consciencious eater and watch my nutrition closely as part of my training.
Sometimes though, I get these crazy waves of cravings and hunger. I try not to deny myself or starve myself but at the same time, if I really gave into all my impulses, I'd be easily tripling my caloric intake.
There's always this bit of tension between what I want v. what I need. I usually stick to "what I need".

How do you eat and how do you determine the line where you eat what you should but not beyond?

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singforsam posted 16 weeks ago.

Hello deepbluex,

I eat 5 times, 2 hours a day. I eat in small portions. These portions should be the same size as your fists. This enables my metabolism to increase. I am 5'7" and used to weigh 170 lbs. and went down to 150 lbs. in a matter 7 months. I am still losing weight with exercise, of course. Also, do your best not to eat after 7 pm.

Hope this helps.

Sam

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Triguy98 posted 16 weeks ago.

10 pounds in 5 months is an easily attainable goal. I would imagine your training is starting to ramp up now. That alsone might be enough to trigger the weight loss you need. I went up to 190 over the holidays for a couple weeks, and am back down to 183. This was with me NOT denying my impulses at all :D I decided to enjoy the holidays and get it out of my system. Allow yourself little treats and rewards every now and then, just dont binge!

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Sully800 posted 16 weeks ago.

I eat everything I see and never look back. I guess that's the joy of being a 20 something triathlete who has always had a high metabolism.

If the furnace is hot enough...

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deepbluex posted 16 weeks ago.

Triguy - I definitely indulged on purpose over the holidays. I like to give myself a break and enjoy time with friends and close ones - otherwise I'd burn myself out on this type-A lifestyle. I ate chocolate, cheeses, creamy carbs and all that stuff. It was great.
Now it's time to start reining in the belly fat, watching portion sizes, cutting out fat, and watching my protein/carb intakes.

I was about 175-180 when I started this sport and took myself down to 140 in about one and a half years. At one point I was down to 135 lb and that was too light. I was feeling weak and sickly all the time so I found that the high 140s is a very stable healthy-feeling weight for me. I push myself to get to the low 140s to get the most out of my perforrmance in the peak of the season.

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McTri posted 16 weeks ago.

I am on the body for life program for now. Once I have reached my target weight of 215, I am 6'5" 265 right now, I will broaden the range some. I have to get out of this football body I have, it is not good for this sport.

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Tri4thlete posted 16 weeks ago.

I also eat mostly whatever I want but in smaller portions. I eat like 6+ times per day but i'll eat breakfast then snack on healthy things like an apple, banana with peanut butter, nuts etc. until lunch and so on. If i have an impulse for a snickers bar or a hersheys bar i go for the banana with peanut butter ;)

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Ultrarunner posted 16 weeks ago.

Man, what a difficult question. Here is my philosophy on food...If you can't grow it or shoot it you probably should not be eating it i.e. high fructose corn syrup, hydrogenated oils, refined sugar. I try to eat as many natural foods as possible that way your body knows what it is and knows what to do with it. I find that eating high fiber foods, protein, and lots of water keep me feeling full. Although like everyone else here has said, don't deny yourself a treat just make it a small one and only once each day or two. Drink lots of water and keep moving that will help most things. Remember food is fuel and you get out of your body what you put into it. During my 7 years as a personal trainer I used to ask my clients "Do you want muscles made of Twinkies and Ding Dongs or lean meats, fruits and vegetables with vitamins and minerals?"

The race is just the finale to all of your training. Enjoy the celebration.

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big 3 posted 16 weeks ago.

That's an awesome answer ultrarunner. I made that philosophy my goal last year and it feels great knowing I'm not putting anything funky into the tank.
I found the biggest hurdle to overcome was beverages. I'm curious if you categorize beer with natural or Twinkies? I'm serious, Water, decaf coffee, fruit smoothies and milk get boring and the occasional beer is quite nice. Yet I question if I'm being a hypocrite as I'm drinking it.

tsilcyc posted this link
http://www.felog.net/utilities/bmr_calc.asp
It is a great way to determine how many calories you need to maintain a certain body weight, given your level of activity.
I plugged in my current weight and my goal weight to see how many calories I should be eating.
Then I went to fitday.com and started keeping track of everything. It's free.
If you run a deficit of 500 calories a day, you should lose a pound a week. Make sure you drink enough water every day.

This method is the root of every diet out there. They all break down to eating less than you burn every day. So why not just keep track of the calories and learn how to adjust what you eat.

As ultrarunner said high fiber stuff is good at making you feel full. I'll add that making sure you eat fat/protein/carbs at your 3 main meals is important as well. If I'm light on any one of them I find I'm still not satisfied and I'm wanting to eat more. If I can look at the meal and see that I was lacking in fat for example. I'll have a spoonful of peanut butter and balance it out and I'm good. Whereas if I ate some turkey I'd probably still not be satisfied and eat too much.

This system is also really good because when you reach race weight, you know if you are eating enough calories to support your workouts.

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Nutty posted 16 weeks ago.

Sully800 wrote:
I eat everything I see and never look back. I guess that's the joy of being a 20 something triathlete who has always had a high metabolism.

If the furnace is hot enough...

+1

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run_sparky_run posted 15 weeks ago.

I think Ultrarunner provides great wisdom here.

At times I don't think about what I'm eating, and just grab what looks tasty. I find the hardest thing about eating right is to always think about what the food is comprised of before I eat it. Consciousness is the toughest obstacle for changing eating habits.

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Socket posted 15 weeks ago.

Beer is totally natural, the good stuff anyway. Water, Grains, Yeast, Hops. All good stuff.

I try to keep food to the better stuff: whole grains, lean meats, fresh veggies and fruits. But then I'll go out and eat some twinkies or a pint of ice cream or a deep fried hotdog. I figure if I'm eating healthy ~90% of the time, I'm good. Plus the constant exercise helps :-)

First changing over from eating whatever I felt like at the time to eating healthy-er-ish was really tough, especially with everyone else in the house eating whatever they felt like. But where there's a will, there's a way.

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tri-ac posted 15 weeks ago.

i've been pretty lax on my eating habits this winter and am now getting back to being a little more healthy as my training plan schedule is looming

i tend away from calorie counting and more towards the larger picture of healthy whole foods (no supplements)

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azstinger11 posted 15 weeks ago.

Yeah I gained a probably 10lbs over the winter holidays which was a mix of not exercising and eating horribly. But generally I try and eat frequently and small. Like the others have said whole grains, fresh fruit/veggies, etc.. Though I too will splurge I mean why push yourself so hard training not to indulge yourself every once in a while.

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theShiba posted 15 weeks ago.

I used to really, really love beer. But, after I started training, I found that it leaves me feeling pretty bloated and lethargic. These days, I prefer a good red wine.

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deepbluex posted 15 weeks ago.

theShiba metnionned something interesting - I've become a lot more atuned to subtle effects that certain foods cause. I used to not mind the occasional deep fried treat or beer or both. I've been eating much healthier to the point that I don't feel as good after eating too much food or something that's too fatty or even after one beer.
Now if I drink, I usually have half a beer and I'm satisfied. I try to stay away from the fried stuff just because I dislike the effects for the following couple of hours. I definitely stopped overeating. I used to eat until I felt "stuffed". now I stop once my reasonable (rather small) portion of food is done and I don't head back for seconds. Within the next hour, I don't feel hungry anymore and I feel much better and energized this way than when I ate a lot.

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theShiba posted 15 weeks ago.

YEAH! That's exactly what I'm talking about, blue. The feeling I get after certain foods is enough to keep me away from them most of the time. A lot of times, even red meat can turn my stomach upside down, so I stick to chicken or fish most of the time. Don't even get me started on the fried food. My list of ailments from fried stuff starts with diarrhea and goes downhill from there...

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gfd posted 15 weeks ago.

I cannot handle fried foods any longer as well. They still taste good but I feel like crap a few minutes later. I have found it interesting how the higher level of training have put my body more in tune with what I am putting into myself. It seeems I have a specific feeling based on what I eat which I never noticed before. I also have very specific cravings after certain workouts. For example, I don't each much red meat, but on Sundays after a 2-3 hour workout I absolutely crave lean roast beef.

I too will be trying to shed 5-8 lbs. in the next 8 weeks to prepare for the upcoming season. I feel a lot faster at 175 or less than I do at 182.

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PrinceofClydes posted 15 weeks ago.

Ultrarunner wrote:
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I used to ask my clients "Do you want muscles made of Twinkies and Ding Dongs or ..?"

:eek:
You can make muscles out of Twinkies and Ding Dongs?!!

Sign me up!

My eating habits haven't varied much in recent years, so I find it easier simply to add 3500 calories of exercise output per week and I lose a pound per week like a machine. That's a 30 minute run or an hour easy bike riding so it's fun too.

Leaning up should involve some weight work I think.

Once you understand your own body - from experience I mean, these objectives should not be a problem.
One thing you gain out of years of physical training is discipline over workouts and eating. IT just takes time and dedication to a significant purpose.
I'm sure you'll do just fine with your goals.

PoC

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